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*sigh... When was the last time you remember going to church in a movie theater or strip mall and seeing a "Starbucks" (or something similar) as a kid? When we had coffee at church it was called "coffee hour" and you didn't have to pay or walk through the bookstore to see the Pastor's latest book to get there. And the Pastor still preached every Sunday, because he was, well, the Pastor. It is a generalisation; however, look in your community and gauge how many mega-churches get air time on your local Christian radio vs. your corner church.

So....you think the appropriate response is to go in and trash the place? Throwing cash registers through the window? Because----even though Jesus did disrupt the money changers in the Temple---I don't believe He would condone that behavior.
 
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Well, since I didn't go to church as a kid... Never! Did you forget that we are to take the Gospel to the whole world? Who are you to decide that whenever or wherever by whomever it is preached is wrong?

VERY few churches in my area (which, btw, is just down the road a couple of hours from you) have what you describe. I've attended a few of the so-called "mega churches" in my area and see nothing like you describe. Is using modern technology to spread the Word somehow a bad thing in your mind?

I think you seriously misunderstand the purpose and intent of the house of worship, large or small. I KNOW your overgeneralizations make you look foolish.



There is a difference between an individual choice to feed an individual and a church's mission to feed the hungry.



An example of what? I have friends and acquaintences who attend or have attended Mars Hill or one of its satellites. I am very familiar with the controversies surrounding it. You made the statement to "Remember Mark Driscoll." What is it you would have us remember about him?

Obviously you're reacting rather than responding to me, so I'll bow out. I've been decent to you in the past so I don't get it.
 
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So....you think the appropriate response is to go in and trash the place? Throwing cash registers through the window? Because----even though Jesus did disrupt the money changers in the Temple---I don't believe He would condone that behavior.

mk, please don't do this. Thanks.

...But is the son being "Christ-like"? Yes, Christ overturned the tables of the money changers, but we need to know when to do it and when not to do it. The consequences of the money changers come in due time. A "WWJD" response might just be not to feed them, but instead give our resources to the hungry...

Also, the context of "feed them" in the above quote was in reference to the money changers, not the hungry. I think that was misunderstood as well.
 
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mk, please don't do this. Thanks.



Also, the context of "feed them" in the above quote was in reference to the money changers, not the hungry. I think that was misunderstood as well.

Yes, Christ overturned the tables of the money changers, but we need to know when to do it and when not to do it.
I don't see there EVER being a time where it's appropriate to trash anyone's business (even if it's within a church)---is my point. IOW.....trying to compare Starbucks inside of churches to Jesus turning over the tables is a flawed argument (IMO). It was no one else that brought up Starbucks but yourself---so I really have no other frame of reference as to what your beliefs are besides the content of your posts.

Because I'm unclear as to *what* your beliefs are---that's exactly why I asked the question. I also may be making a wrong presumption to believe that you and VG are on the same page in reference to this article, and I tried several times to ask about what specific behavior she believed was "wise" (but that was never answered). I also asked a few times if she didn't see the "bad" in what was called, "Christ-like behavior".
 
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I don't see there EVER being a time where it's appropriate to trash anyone's business (even if it's within a church)---

I guess Jesus was inappropriate then.

The purpose of this thread was so I did not derail the other thread. I posted it to make a point. Ezoo seems to have gotten that. The rest of you not so much. I will now ask to have the thread closed.
 
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