wow God did that!

[sparow]

I am not sure if this is the right area for this discussion so we will see. I came upon this info and it boggled my mind. This person starts talking about the Sabbath then after a short while he talks about the Exodus. All the calculations are done by a Us Quartermaster General.

 

[Armoured]

Could we get the main points, please?

 

[Aureus]

It appears to be a bunch of numbers of what the Israelites would have needed provided to them by God... you know assuming that the Exodus actually happened and all that.

 

[Armoured]

It appears to be a bunch of numbers of what the Israelites would have needed provided to them by God... you know assuming that the Exodus actually happened and all that.

Ahh. Thanks.

 

[sparow]

Could we get the main points, please?

The point is the magnitude of the logistics of feeding and watering three million people that came out of Egypt; thousands of tons per day for forty years.

 

[Armoured]

The point is the magnitude of the logistics of feeding and watering three million people that came out of Egypt; thousands of tons per day for forty years.

I see. Yes. Well, assuming, to build on Aureus' point that Exodus is A. literal history, and B. involved those sorts of numbers.

 

[sparow]

It appears to be a bunch of numbers of what the Israelites would have needed provided to them by God... you know assuming that the Exodus actually happened and all that.

I can understand an unbeliever not believing but for those who believe should know what it is that they believe.

 

[sparow]

I see. Yes. Well, assuming, to build on Aureus' point that Exodus is A. literal history, and B. involved those sorts of numbers.

The numbers may not be true; it is an assumption how many came out of Egypt; it was an army General who provided the info, whose job is to provide logistics for the US army; he knows how many tons of food and water is required for a three million man army.

 

[Armoured]

The numbers may not be true; it is an assumption how many came out of Egypt; it was an army General who provided the info, whose job is to provide logistics for the US army; he knows how many tons of food and water is required for a three million man army.

Which is well and good... assuming that, yes, there was an otherwise unsupported 3 million man army worth of Israelites.

 

[Aureus]

The numbers may not be true; it is an assumption how many came out of Egypt; it was an army General who provided the info, whose job is to provide logistics for the US army; he knows how many tons of food and water is required for a three million man army.

Yes and I am sure he did a very good job of estimating the numbers.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I can understand an unbeliever not believing but for those who believe should know what it is that they believe.

Biblical inerrancy isn't one of the fundamental tenets of the Christian religion. One can be a believing Christian--who really does beleive Jesus is the Christ, the eternally begotten Son of the Father, the Logos, who suffered and died for our sake and who really did rise from the dead, sits at the right hand of the Father, and is coming again in glory to judge the quick and the dead--and still accept that some of the historical tidbits of the Old Testament might have been fudged or otherwise were less about strict historiography as they were about Israel's identification narrative as the covenant people of God.

I am inclined to believe that the Exodus, the single most important part of Israel's identity narrative, does have historical basis; but that it is still possible that it happened differently and perhaps quite less in such a grandiose way as described in the texts. This isn't a make or break part of my faith.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[sparow]

Biblical inerrancy isn't one of the fundamental tenets of the Christian religion. One can be a believing Christian--who really does beleive Jesus is the Christ, the eternally begotten Son of the Father, the Logos, who suffered and died for our sake and who really did rise from the dead, sits at the right hand of the Father, and is coming again in glory to judge the quick and the dead--and still accept that some of the historical tidbits of the Old Testament might have been fudged or otherwise were less about strict historiography as they were about Israel's identification narrative as the covenant people of God.

I am inclined to believe that the Exodus, the single most important part of Israel's identity narrative, does have historical basis; but that it is still possible that it happened differently and perhaps quite less in such a grandiose way as described in the texts. This isn't a make or break part of my faith.

-CryptoLutheran

You seem to have read something in my word that I never intended. I am not familiar with the fine detail of Exodus but when I saw the video with the logistics I didn't believe it. I believe there are around three million Syrian refugees in camps and I wouldn't expect them to have that magnitude of logistics being freighted.

 

[SnowyMacie]

Biblical inerrancy isn't one of the fundamental tenets of the Christian religion. One can be a believing Christian--who really does beleive Jesus is the Christ, the eternally begotten Son of the Father, the Logos, who suffered and died for our sake and who really did rise from the dead, sits at the right hand of the Father, and is coming again in glory to judge the quick and the dead--and still accept that some of the historical tidbits of the Old Testament might have been fudged or otherwise were less about strict historiography as they were about Israel's identification narrative as the covenant people of God.

I am inclined to believe that the Exodus, the single most important part of Israel's identity narrative, does have historical basis; but that it is still possible that it happened differently and perhaps quite less in such a grandiose way as described in the texts. This isn't a make or break part of my faith.

-CryptoLutheran

Unfortunately many people would disagree.

 

[Nithavela]

It's so incredible, I don't actually believe it.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Personally, I always considered the number of Israelites in Exodus to just be an exaggeration, which people are prone to.

 

[TLK Valentine]

It appears to be a bunch of numbers of what the Israelites would have needed provided to them by God... you know assuming that the Exodus actually happened and all that.

According to Exodus, God made the Israelite so appealing in the eyes of the Egyptians, they just "gave" them all their valuables... because you know, it's not theft when it's done by trickery...

 

[sparow]

Personally, I always considered the number of Israelites in Exodus to just be an exaggeration, which people are prone to.

Have you tried doing the maths your self, I have; I think it was 75 who Jacob took to Egypt and they were there about 230 years or 12 generations and if half were women and had an average of six kids they would have numbered around 100,000,000; if the averaged around 3 kids they would have numbered around 30,000.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Have you tried doing the maths your self, I have; I think it was 75 who Jacob took to Egypt and they were there about 230 years or 12 generations and if half were women and had an average of six kids they would have numbered around 100,000,000; if the averaged around 3 kids they would have numbered around 30,000.

And if the males were put to death to compensate for overbreeding, they would've numbered far less...

 

[Eudaimonist]

Personally, I always considered the number of Israelites in Exodus to just be an exaggeration, which people are prone to.

I doubt that the Exodus had even happened.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[PsychoSarah]

I doubt that the Exodus had even happened.


eudaimonia,

Mark

So do I; I am saying that, if I did think it happened, I would assume the number of Israelites was an exaggeration.