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II Timothy 2:3
"Thou therefore endure hardness
as a good soldier of Jesus Christ..."

Christians are soldiers of the Lord.
We are in a war, a spiritual war.
We, as Christian soldiers,
fight against the devil and evil powers.

That is why we must put on the spiritual armor that God has provided.
Christian soldiers must live up to certain standards. If one is a good soldier, he must obey rules, follow the orders of the superiors, and keep his body in physical condition.

An army needs more than one soldier. It is not every man for himself. Rather, it is every man for the others.

So what does one soldier do when another soldier is wounded?
The wounded soldier must be pulled to safety.
A helicopter is used in many battle fields to rescue wounded soldiers.

The medics, doctors, nurses fight to save the life of soldiers who are wounded in today's battlefields.

That is the way it is in the armies of this world.

In God's army, it is quite different.
In God's army, many of his soldiers are shooting their own, and have forgotten to shoot at the real enemy. Some of God's army will sit back and watch the active soldiers fight the enemy, and await the wounding of one of them. Then they jump on the wounded the soldier to finish them off.

The Christian army has been called
"the only army that shoots its wounded." How tragic!

What has happened to the natural love of one soldier for his wounded brother? Why do Christians step on, shoot, and hurt their own wounded? Why do some find fault with one who has been wounded?

None of us are perfect! We have all failed, and likewise been wounded. Still, even some Christians who have been previously wounded show no mercy for others who become wounded. How can we be so inconsiderate?

How can "CHRISTIANS" be so heartless? How has the Christian army become so stupid?

Galatians 6:1-2
"Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault,
ye which are spiritual,
restore such a one in the spirit of meekness,
considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
Bear ye one another's burdens
and so fulfill the law of Christ."

The word "overtaken" is from a Greek word which means "found out, detected..." What do we do when we "detect," or have "found out" a failure in another Christian? What do we do when another Christian backslides? Do we criticize them? Do we ignore them? Do we step on them, as they lie there wounded? Do we kick them out of the church? We know that the devil is out to get even the elect of God. Why does the Christian army help the devil?

Some Christians think their job is "fault-detector." They enjoy finding faults in other Christians. We are not "fault-detectors" for the purpose of criticizing, gossiping, or kicking out the one detected in a sin. We are to be in the restoring business.

"Ye which are spiritual" are to help the carnal, fallen, sinful, weak, abused, hurting, confused saints.

God knows the other "carnal" saints will be of no help to the fallen soldiers. The carnal saints will just use the other's failures to excuse his own. The spiritual saints are called upon to do what should be done, and that is, to lovingly restore the fallen soldiers.

This process is to be done "in the spirit of meekness." This means we are to remain aware of our own vulnerability. We too may sin and be a wounded soldier as the one we are helping. Remember how you will want to be treated when you fall. We would want someone to bear our burdens, lovingly care for our wounds. so, we are commanded to lovingly care for fallen, wounded soldiers in the same way.

John 13:34-35
"A new commandment I give unto you,
that ye love one another;
as I have loved you,
that ye also love one another.
By this shall all men know that ye are My disciples,
if ye have love one for another."

Jesus gave us this commandment, and then He gave us a perfect example of how to do it. Peter denied Christ three times. Despite the horrible failure of one of His own, Jesus told the women at the tomb, "Go and tell the disciples, and Peter..."

Note the special emphasis on Peter. Jesus did not pick on Peter. Nor, did He tell Peter, "I told you so!" Rather, He brought Peter back to a greater place and calling.

Nathan told David a story about a man with one lone sheep. He had dove and respect for his king. Yet, it was David who had caused a man to be killed, and had caused the man's wife to become pregnant. For many Christians, it would have been simple to attack, criticize, gossip, and faultfind the king, but Nathan handled it is such a way, that there was repentance.

David had also treated King Saul with respect, despite Saul's waywardness. He remembered to "touch not mine anointed" (I Chronicles 16:22), and did not take his opportunity to kill King Saul. He allowed God to remove King Saul in God's timing.

Elijah sat under a juniper tree. He was discouraged, scared, and running out of water. God sent an angel, not to rebuke Elijah for his fear, doubt, and discouragement... but to feed, encourage rest, and counsel him.

Jonah was a bigot, full of judgmental attitude, and running from God. God did not give up on him. God continued to work on Jonah, and bring him to Nineveh. How easy it is for many today to faultfind the stubborn and bigoted, without encouraging, strengthening, and binding up those so wounded.

Paul and John Mark must have had a major disagreement. Paul split from Barnabus over the issue. Barnabus was correct on this disagreement. Paul was too ready to give up. Too often Christians are ready to give up on the weak. We need more like Barnabus.
The Christian world would do well to have a national day of repentance for its shooting of the wounded. We need to carry a burden for the weak... Sunday School teachers, pastors, pastors' wives, board members, youth leaders, etc. all need to repent for giving up easily on the wayward, the weak, the wounded, and the stumbled.

I Corinthians 12:25-26
"...the members should have the same care one for another... whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it..."

The early church had contentions. They argued and debated:
what to eat or drink,
with whom to eat,
where to eat,
where to buy meat,
what day to keep the Sabbath,
how to keep the Sabbath,
whether to be circumcised,
whether to keep the law of Moses,
what to wear,
what customs to keep,
etc.

Today's church congregations also have many contentions. We need to learn how to handle those contentions, the contenders, and the victims of such contentions. Too often there are some as in the early church, who are "tattlers," and "busybodies".

I Timothy 5:13
"...learn to be idle,
wandering from house to house,
and not only idle, but tattlers and busybodies..."

Many Christians think they have the gift of tattling, criticizing, fault finding, and gossiping. What a cost these have had to Christianity. These "Christian" soldiers that shoot the wounded, break hearts, abuse the weak, and offend the sensitive, are doing damage to the "body of Christ." How many wrecked homes, broken hearts, and wounded do you know? How many have come back to church to feel shamed, violated, affronted, insulted, aggravated, and repelled?

What is the answer? We need to fellowship with all Christians. Don't despise and judge, but leave that to the Holy Spirit. He has never asked Christians to do His job... we are commanded to love, not to criticize... We are responsible to offer Jesus to the convicted, the hurting, and the wounded...

Demonstrate the love of the Lord to the fallen, the drifting, and the backsliding. Bear the weaknesses of the fallen. If you cannot say something good about someone, then pray for them. Stop jumping to conclusions. When you speak to the wounded, uplift them, love them, care for them, and edify them.

 
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Well, in one way...
the Lord is supposed to be deep within the saints...
He does not share His abode....
so...
demons who once resided in a Christian
are not inside, but outside trying to work...

the only 'inside' enemy for the Christian
is the carnal person, the old man,
the flesh ...
that keeps attempting to resurrect itself,
and needs crucified daily...

that carnal self can be very evil...
Paul said 'o wretched man that I am'...
and
God warned that the 'heart is desperately
wicked, who can know it..."

The inner man struggle is one that
seeks to wound and overcome the spirit of man...
the spirit of man is in battle with the flesh
part of man...

that wounding of self is different than
the 'wounded soldier' battle just described...

the levite and priest found a wounded
man... and passed by uncaring enough to help...
that kind of heartless faith
is due to the inner battle you talk of...

but their actions, the heartless non help
of the wounded person laying there,
is what I spoke of...

so... the inner battle of carnality,
of apostasy even...
results in many not caring for the
wounded soldier out there...

so they are related...
but not the same battle
 
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umm, just for my edification, why do you always write in center justification like a poem?

it drives me to distraction. Thank you


To be honest I don't read those posts. I just read the responses. It's too hard for my feeble eyes to read.
 
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umm, just for my edification, why do you always write in center justification like a poem?

it drives me to distraction. Thank you

I have been told it is because of a visual problem he has.

I can relate. I have macular degeneration and double vision,

You'll notice I leave out words and letters of words a lot. Honestly it is because I can't see them anyway and my brain just fills in the missing information when I proof.

I have a hard time reading anything.

John O.
 
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II Timothy 2:3
"Thou therefore endure hardness as a good soldier of Jesus Christ..."

Christians are soldiers of the Lord.
We are in a war, a spiritual war.
We, as Christian soldiers,
fight against the devil and evil powers.

That is why we must put on the spiritual armor that God has provided. Christian soldiers must live up to certain standards. If one is a good soldier, he must obey rules, follow the orders of the superiors, and keep his body in physical condition.

An army needs more than one soldier. It is not every man for himself. Rather, it is every man for the others.

So what does one soldier do when another soldier is wounded? The wounded soldier must be pulled to safety. A helicopter is used in many battle fields to rescue wounded soldiers.

The medics, doctors, nurses fight to save the life of soldiers who are wounded in today's battlefields.

That is the way it is in the armies of this world.

In God's army, it is quite different. In God's army, many of his soldiers are shooting their own, and have forgotten to shoot at the real enemy. Some of God's army will sit back and watch the active soldiers fight the enemy, and await the wounding of one of them. Then they jump on the wounded the soldier to finish them off.

The Christian army has been called "the only army that shoots its wounded." How tragic!

What has happened to the natural love of one soldier for his wounded brother? Why do Christians step on, shoot, and hurt their own wounded? Why do some find fault with one who has been wounded?

None of us are perfect! We have all failed, and likewise been wounded. Still, even some Christians who have been previously wounded show no mercy for others who become wounded. How can we be so inconsiderate?

How can "CHRISTIANS" be so heartless? How has the Christian army become so stupid?

Galatians 6:1-2
"Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault,ye which are spiritual,restore such a one in the spirit of meekness,considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Bear ye one another's burdens and so fulfill the law of Christ."

The word "overtaken" is from a Greek word which means "found out, detected..." What do we do when we "detect," or have "found out" a failure in another Christian? What do we do when another Christian backslides? Do we criticize them? Do we ignore them? Do we step on them, as they lie there wounded? Do we kick them out of the church? We know that the devil is out to get even the elect of God. Why does the Christian army help the devil?

Some Christians think their job is "fault-detector." They enjoy finding faults in other Christians. We are not "fault-detectors" for the purpose of criticizing, gossiping, or kicking out the one detected in a sin. We are to be in the restoring business.

"Ye which are spiritual" are to help the carnal, fallen, sinful, weak, abused, hurting, confused saints.

God knows the other "carnal" saints will be of no help to the fallen soldiers. The carnal saints will just use the other's failures to excuse his own. The spiritual saints are called upon to do what should be done, and that is, to lovingly restore the fallen soldiers.

This process is to be done "in the spirit of meekness." This means we are to remain aware of our own vulnerability. We too may sin and be a wounded soldier as the one we are helping. Remember how you will want to be treated when you fall. We would want someone to bear our burdens, lovingly care for our wounds. so, we are commanded to lovingly care for fallen, wounded soldiers in the same way.

John 13:34-35
"A new commandment I give unto you,that ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are My disciples, if ye have love one for another."

Jesus gave us this commandment, and then He gave us a perfect example of how to do it. Peter denied Christ three times. Despite the horrible failure of one of His own, Jesus told the women at the tomb, "Go and tell the disciples, and Peter..."

Note the special emphasis on Peter. Jesus did not pick on Peter. Nor, did He tell Peter, "I told you so!" Rather, He brought Peter back to a greater place and calling.

Nathan told David a story about a man with one lone sheep. He had dove and respect for his king. Yet, it was David who had caused a man to be killed, and had caused the man's wife to become pregnant. For many Christians, it would have been simple to attack, criticize, gossip, and faultfind the king, but Nathan handled it is such a way, that there was repentance.

David had also treated King Saul with respect, despite Saul's waywardness. He remembered to "touch not mine anointed" (I Chronicles 16:22), and did not take his opportunity to kill King Saul. He allowed God to remove King Saul in God's timing.

Elijah sat under a juniper tree. He was discouraged, scared, and running out of water. God sent an angel, not to rebuke Elijah for his fear, doubt, and discouragement... but to feed, encourage rest, and counsel him.

Jonah was a bigot, full of judgmental attitude, and running from God. God did not give up on him. God continued to work on Jonah, and bring him to Nineveh. How easy it is for many today to faultfind the stubborn and bigoted, without encouraging, strengthening, and binding up those so wounded.

Paul and John Mark must have had a major disagreement. Paul split from Barnabus over the issue. Barnabus was correct on this disagreement. Paul was too ready to give up. Too often Christians are ready to give up on the weak. We need more like Barnabus.
The Christian world would do well to have a national day of repentance for its shooting of the wounded. We need to carry a burden for the weak... Sunday School teachers, pastors, pastors' wives, board members, youth leaders, etc. all need to repent for giving up easily on the wayward, the weak, the wounded, and the stumbled.

I Corinthians 12:25-26
"...the members should have the same care one for another... whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it..."

The early church had contentions. They argued and debated: what to eat or drink, with whom to eat,
where to eat, where to buy meat, what day to keep the Sabbath, how to keep the Sabbath, whether to be circumcised, whether to keep the law of Moses, what to wear, what customs to keep, etc.

Today's church congregations also have many contentions. We need to learn how to handle those contentions, the contenders, and the victims of such contentions. Too often there are some as in the early church, who are "tattlers," and "busybodies".

I Timothy 5:13
"...learn to be idle, wandering from house to house, and not only idle, but tattlers and busybodies..."

Many Christians think they have the gift of tattling, criticizing, fault finding, and gossiping. What a cost these have had to Christianity. These "Christian" soldiers that shoot the wounded, break hearts, abuse the weak, and offend the sensitive, are doing damage to the "body of Christ." How many wrecked homes, broken hearts, and wounded do you know? How many have come back to church to feel shamed, violated, affronted, insulted, aggravated, and repelled?

What is the answer? We need to fellowship with all Christians. Don't despise and judge, but leave that to the Holy Spirit. He has never asked Christians to do His job... we are commanded to love, not to criticize... We are responsible to offer Jesus to the convicted, the hurting, and the wounded...

Demonstrate the love of the Lord to the fallen, the drifting, and the backsliding. Bear the weaknesses of the fallen. If you cannot say something good about someone, then pray for them. Stop jumping to conclusions. When you speak to the wounded, uplift them, love them, care for them, and edify them.


Does that help?
 
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murjahel, I'm liking you more and more, my brother! I VERY recently had a dear, dear friend of mine who came to me to confess a very grievous sin. A sin with very dire consequences, much damage to himself and others...a sin which some have been kicked out of leadership and even out of church for many, many times. I'm not blowing my own horn, just giving glory to God for working in me to be like Him. I told my brother (who was very near to being mortally wounded) that he needed repentance and forgiveness and then I re-affirmed all of the callings of God on his life, reminded Him that God is STILL with him and re-affirmed his place in MY life as a dear, dear friend and brother in the Lord.

I had the opportunity to destroy him, to, as you said "shoot the wounded"...but God enabled me to raise him up so that he will be stronger than ever before. A book I would recommend that addresses this issue in an indirect way is When Godly People Do Ungodly Things by Beth Moore. It deals with this issue in a profound way. I wept through the first third of the book, begging God to let me stop reading, but He insisted that I finish that first section. I saw in my own life and in the life of another person very close to me how the devil had come in and seduced us out of following God. I believe every truly spiritual believer should read this book.

We have to stop "shooting our wounded"!! THE WORLD IS WATCHING!!!
 
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I have been told it is because of a visual problem he has.

I can relate. I have macular degeneration and double vision,

You'll notice I leave out words and letters of words a lot. Honestly it is because I can't see them anyway and my brain just fills in the missing information when I proof.

I have a hard time reading anything.

John O.
I am sorry that it is hard for you
all to read my posts... it is likewise very
hard for me to read yours....

my eyes tire easily, I miss many words,
my eyes can read shorter, centered posts,
far easier, and I can read long enough
to do a few posts before leaving....

to proof read my own, it is easier to
do it this way also...

much of poetry is written in this form
so.. I am curious why it is so hard for some
of you, but I guess, I am just used to doing
it this way....

I have had ten surgeries, and another
will likely be due soon...
down to one eye for reading right now...
hope to restore it...

but, back to the subject...
 
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murjahel, I'm liking you more and more, my brother! I VERY recently had a dear, dear friend of mine who came to me to confess a very grievous sin. A sin with very dire consequences, much damage to himself and others...a sin which some have been kicked out of leadership and even out of church for many, many times. I'm not blowing my own horn, just giving glory to God for working in me to be like Him. I told my brother (who was very near to being mortally wounded) that he needed repentance and forgiveness and then I re-affirmed all of the callings of God on his life, reminded Him that God is STILL with him and re-affirmed his place in MY life as a dear, dear friend and brother in the Lord.

I had the opportunity to destroy him, to, as you said "shoot the wounded"...but God enabled me to raise him up so that he will be stronger than ever before. A book I would recommend that addresses this issue in an indirect way is When Godly People Do Ungodly Things by Beth Moore. It deals with this issue in a profound way. I wept through the first third of the book, begging God to let me stop reading, but He insisted that I finish that first section. I saw in my own life and in the life of another person very close to me how the devil had come in and seduced us out of following God. I believe every truly spiritual believer should read this book.

We have to stop "shooting our wounded"!! THE WORLD IS WATCHING!!!
Yes... thanks for the example...
God does still want us to help the wounded...

The time it is most hard, I have found,
when we find the 'wounder' to be wounded...

Then, what do we do?
It can be hard, but Jesus prayed
for those in the process of crucifying Him...
and Stephen prayed for the stoners...
and in his case, I believe, the salvation of Paul
can be greatly attributed to that prayer....
for God gave Paul another chance on the road
to Damascus...
had there not been that intercessory prayer of Stephen,
God was more likely just to strike Paul dead
on that road... but instead, there was another chance
for Saul of Tarsus...

 
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I am sorry that it is hard for you

all to read my posts... it is likewise very
hard for me to read yours....

my eyes tire easily, I miss many words,
my eyes can read shorter, centered posts,
far easier, and I can read long enough
to do a few posts before leaving....

to proof read my own, it is easier to
do it this way also...

much of poetry is written in this form
so.. I am curious why it is so hard for some
of you, but I guess, I am just used to doing
it this way....

I have had ten surgeries, and another
will likely be due soon...
down to one eye for reading right now...
hope to restore it...


but, back to the subject...

Blessings and a hug for you! :groupray:

My Father has an eye disease and is losing his ability to see.



 
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The old saying - The Christian Army is the only one that shoots its own wounded. Remember Todd bently - the best example I can think of in recent history.

Rick Joyner really brings this out in his book "The Final Quest." here is a part of the book online...

Joyner
 
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too bad practicing what you preach isn't essential when you make threads like this.

We should all practice what we
preach....

and it is often difficult,
but can be repented of when there
is failure...

remember,
the Samaritan found the wounded man,
hurting and needing help...
and he helped him...

what if he had come upon the same
man, while he was being wounded...???

what would he have done to the
ones wounding the man???

sometimes, some judge others as
cruel, etc... when actually,
their 'seeming cruelty' is in defending
the one some others are wounding...

we should help the wounded...
occasionally, the ones doing the wounding
need a good scolding....

but then there are some who criticize
the one scolding the wounders,
instead of realizing that there would be
less wounded soldiers, if some would
quit wounding them... LOL
 
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we should help the wounded...
occasionally, the ones doing the wounding
need a good scolding....

and who decides this? and when?

whatever happened to turn the other cheek, and to pray for those that persecute you? to do good to those that hate you?

and on the other side of that is this: Matt 5:23 “Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering. 25 “Make friends quickly with your opponent at law while you are with him on the way, so that your opponent may not hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 “Truly I say to you, you will not come out of there until you have paid up the last cent.

so either way you cut it, n matter which side of the "wounding" you are on, you are told to be a peacemaker.

i don't see much peacemaking here...LOL
 
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