Would you shoot?

[Domenico]

Commence hypothetical situation -

Lets say there is an intruder in your house, who is nicking your stuff. You have no phone, so you cannot call neighbours or the police. You know that once he has finished robbing you of your things he is going to hurt you, possibly very badly, and once he has left, he will never be caught or punished.

The only thing you have to hand is a large caliber shotgun. You can shoot this guy before he hurts you and dissapears with your things. Only problem is that this shotgun is BIG. No matter where you shoot him, hes gonna die, from the blast or from blood loss as you run to call the ambulance.

Would you shoot him?

If you would, and you are also pro-life, consider this.

You have an intruder in your body, stealing your nutrients, your brian power, your blood, etc. Once the intruder is finished staling these things, he is going to hurt you before leaving your body, possibly even killing you.

The only thing you have to hand is an abortion. But this will kill the intruder.

Is your answer any different in this instance? If so, why?

 

[JadeTigress]

I know I'd shoot the guy. I wouldn't think twice about it. In a situation like that where it's either him or me, I'll pick me.

I don't care if people get abortions either. That's their choice, and it's the same choice I'd most likely make if I got pregnant. But, then again, I've never wanted a baby, and I'm also not pro-life.

 

[.Sabre.]

If there was an intruder in my house, I would threaten him first. If he then tried to kill me, then I'd shoot.


As for the second question, no. I am pro-life. I would justify the first question by saying that this person actively tried to kill me. If I die in childbirth, it's not the child's fault.

 

[Paulos23]

The two situations are not similar, plus if you think those are reasons women get abortions I think you need to look at this study.

 

[peter22]

Why wouldn't I shoot him? I don't understand your point. If I know he's going to hurt me and my family then I would do it with a clear conscience. Just not in the head, I don't want to add a dry cleaning bill to my list of expenses.

 

[Domenico]

The point is, if you think its okay to kill the born, why the qualms about the unborn?

Personally I would rather die than kill anyone, but I recognise that not everyone feels that way.

 

[Maranatha27]

I could probably take him unless hes really strong or a martial artist, but if he had a gun or knife id shoot him in the knee. still pro-life

 

[Domenico]

I could probably take him unless hes really strong or a martial artist, but if he had a gun or knife id shoot him in the knee. still pro-life

If you shoot him, he dies. If you dont shoot him, he hurts you. Remember kiddies, this is a hypothetical.

 

[Solidlyhere]

I think the OP's scenario is improbable:
1) You have no phone;
2) Once he has finished robbing you of your things he is going to hurt you, possibly very badly;
3) Once he has left, he will never be caught or punished;
4) If you shoot at him, he absolutely will DIE.

1) Although a few people have no telephone, it is unusual.
2) Short of being a Psychic, NO ONE can KNOW what his future actions will be.
3) And, even if you KNEW he would hurt you, it seems impossible that you could know he would never be caught.
4) How could I know that a grazing shot will kill him?

Anyway, what I would do is: Take my shotgun with me, and run away from the house.
I will leave the robber with free access to my things (but NOT my body).
I would hot-foot it to my nearest neighbor, and call the police.

In Texas, a person can shoot-and-kill an intruder with impunity.
In my mind, killing someone who isn't trying to kill me is wrong.

If the scenario was changed, and I was sure that he would murder me, then the dynamic changes substantially.
I would not fault someone for killing to protect their Life.

That being said, even if someone wanted to kill me, I would not kill him.
Part of the reason revolves around me NOT wanting to "play God."
But, the rest of it is: I couldn't live with myself if I willfully killed someone.
I have enough guilt pangs from raising my voice needlessly to a friend ... a killing would crush my Spirit.

 

[LouTheWicked]

Yeah, I would shoot him. "Oh I didn't want to kill him Constable, but I just didn't have the right gun. " *fake sigh of sadness*

 

[peter22]

I don't understand why people, unless they are brainwashed into believing that they will be rewarded after they've died for 'good behaviour', wouldn't defend their lives. Oh well, I guess natural selection deals with that nicely.

 

[MikeMcK]

Commence hypothetical situation -

Lets say there is an intruder in your house, who is nicking your stuff. You have no phone, so you cannot call neighbours or the police. You know that once he has finished robbing you of your things he is going to hurt you, possibly very badly, and once he has left, he will never be caught or punished.

The only thing you have to hand is a large caliber shotgun. You can shoot this guy before he hurts you and dissapears with your things. Only problem is that this shotgun is BIG. No matter where you shoot him, hes gonna die, from the blast or from blood loss as you run to call the ambulance.

Would you shoot him?

If you would, and you are also pro-life, consider this.

You have an intruder in your body, stealing your nutrients, your brian power, your blood, etc. Once the intruder is finished staling these things, he is going to hurt you before leaving your body, possibly even killing you.

The only thing you have to hand is an abortion. But this will kill the intruder.

Is your answer any different in this instance? If so, why?

1) Yes, I would shoot the intruder

2) Last time I checked, a womans body was specifically designed for the purpose of bearing children. The child does not "steal nutrients, brain power, blood, etc".

The woman's body accomodates the baby very well, taking into account the woman's need for nutrients and blood and regulating both for the optimum health of both persons.

The biggest difference, however, is that the thief is an intruder intent on doing harm. The baby is invited and is innocent and not intending to do any harm.

 

[Pogue]

If I was the only person in the house, and I was the only one at risk, I wouldn't shoot, because I believe that murder is wrong. If my family was also in the house, and I was the one making the decision whether or not to shoot, I probably would shoot. I still don't think it's an obectively good thing to do, but in that situation it's the lesser of the two evils, because I don't think it's right to allow your family to be killed or injured.

 

[Twilight777]

If I was in a problem like that, yes I would.

 

[Steezie]

Commence hypothetical situation -

Lets say there is an intruder in your house, who is nicking your stuff. You have no phone, so you cannot call neighbours or the police. You know that once he has finished robbing you of your things he is going to hurt you, possibly very badly, and once he has left, he will never be caught or punished.

The only thing you have to hand is a large caliber shotgun. You can shoot this guy before he hurts you and dissapears with your things. Only problem is that this shotgun is BIG. No matter where you shoot him, hes gonna die, from the blast or from blood loss as you run to call the ambulance.

Would you shoot him?

Yup, and I'd keep ON shooting him until I was absolutely sure that he was dead or I ran out of shells, whichever came first.

 

[SaintInChicago]

Commence hypothetical situation -

Lets say there is an intruder in your house, who is nicking your stuff. You have no phone, so you cannot call neighbours or the police. You know that once he has finished robbing you of your things he is going to hurt you, possibly very badly, and once he has left, he will never be caught or punished.

The only thing you have to hand is a large caliber shotgun. You can shoot this guy before he hurts you and dissapears with your things. Only problem is that this shotgun is BIG. No matter where you shoot him, hes gonna die, from the blast or from blood loss as you run to call the ambulance.

Would you shoot him?

If you would, and you are also pro-life, consider this.

You have an intruder in your body, stealing your nutrients, your brian power, your blood, etc. Once the intruder is finished staling these things, he is going to hurt you before leaving your body, possibly even killing you.

The only thing you have to hand is an abortion. But this will kill the intruder.

Is your answer any different in this instance? If so, why?

There is no such thing as a large caliber shotgun. Shotguns are measure in gauge. Rifles are measured in caliber. Anyway, you could fire in the air and he would probably hit the floor. Also, you can always shoot so that only part of the scatter hits him. Or I could use the butt of the gun to hit him. Or, having 18 years of martial arts training I could slam him on the ground with one hand. Finally, stealing should not punishable by death.

For the second scenario you have a false dilemma.
If you would, and you are also pro-life, consider this.

You have a slave in your plantation, stealing your nutrients, your production power, your corn, etc. Once the intruder is finished staling these things, he is going to hurt you before running away from your plantation, possibly even killing you.

The only thing you have to hand is an euthanizing. But this will kill the intruder.

 

[Northwest]

Apples and oranges.

 

[TexasSky]

Impossible hypothetical for me.
I do not allow guns in my home.

No, I wouldn't shoot. "Goods" are not worth a human life.

 

[Steezie]

Impossible hypothetical for me.
I do not allow guns in my home.

No, I wouldn't shoot. "Goods" are not worth a human life.

For me it isnt a question of "goods", most, if not everything, I own can be replaced.

I live with my fiancee and hopefully some day my child. If someone breaks into my house I have NO way of knowing if they are going to take stuff and run, or maybe come upstairs and try to kill all of us after he's done so there are DEFINITELY no witnesses. For me, Im not willing to take the chance that he might be there JUST for my stuff. The life of my fiancee and future child is far too valuble to me to take that risk so quite simply, Im not going to.

If you are in my house and I didnt invite you there, you'd better hope you're REEEEEALY fast or REEEEEALY lucky 'cause I do NOT shoot to wound.

 

[levi501]

lol, funniest thing about hypotheticals is watching fundies unable answer them.