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As I mentioned on the main forum, I feel like God has brought to my attention lately just how much unbelief I have in my mind. This is at a time when I am greatly desiring to step out in faith more in my life. It's not that I don't have faith. It's just that there is also unbelief there in my mind, counteracting and pulling against all that my faith is trying to do. I feel like the man who cried out with tears to Jesus in Mark 9:24, "Lord, I believe, help thou mind unbelief!"

I would really appreciate it if you guys would agree with me now that all of my unbelief would be cleansed from my mind, and QUICKLY. Your prayers on this matter would be much appreciated as well. Also, if anyone has any personal stories or testimonies along these lines, I would love to hear them if you would care to share any. :)
 

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BobZ,

1) Say I had 2 church members who needed a job. One said he was in a financial trouble and the other said he was laid off, my heart would go out more readily for the latter.

No man perceives what's in another's heart. Unless you tell your brother what troubles you, believing he can help you with prayer, he cannot effectively help you. If you don't want to advertise your situation, send pm's to the few you trust. A few loving prayers are much more effective than many uncaring ones.

2) Is what you call unbelief truly unbelief? If it is hesitation to act one the word, the best remedy is to act on the word. The hesitation will disappear. The hesitation itself is not unbelief or doubt.
 
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Hi bobznew - I can see you on-line here - can you wait for me to post my reply to you? I believe I have some guidance for you from the Lord. (Some is from me and some from Him lol) I'm just dealing with my 3 year old at the moment and need to get the time to sit and type the respose. LOL. Hope to see you back here later. God bless.
 
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Hi bobznew - I can see you on-line here - can you wait for me to post my reply to you? I believe I have some guidance for you from the Lord. (Some is from me and some from Him lol) I'm just dealing with my 3 year old at the moment and need to get the time to sit and type the respose. LOL. Hope to see you back here later. God bless.

Absolutely. Would love to hear what you have.
 
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BobZ,

1) Say I had 2 church members who needed a job. One said he was in a financial trouble and the other said he was laid off, my heart would go out more readily for the latter.

No man perceives what's in another's heart. Unless you tell your brother what troubles you, believing he can help you with prayer, he cannot effectively help you. If you don't want to advertise your situation, send pm's to the few you trust. A few loving prayers are much more effective than many uncaring ones.

2) Is what you call unbelief truly unbelief? If it is hesitation to act one the word, the best remedy is to act on the word. The hesitation will disappear. The hesitation itself is not unbelief or doubt.

I appreciate this. I don't mind expanding on what I'm talking about, but it'll have to wait till I get home from work. Thank everyone for their replies already.
 
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As I mentioned on the main forum, I feel like God has brought to my attention lately just how much unbelief I have in my mind. This is at a time when I am greatly desiring to step out in faith more in my life. It's not that I don't have faith. It's just that there is also unbelief there in my mind, counteracting and pulling against all that my faith is trying to do. I feel like the man who cried out with tears to Jesus in Mark 9:24, "Lord, I believe, help thou mind unbelief!"

I would really appreciate it if you guys would agree with me now that all of my unbelief would be cleansed from my mind, and QUICKLY. Your prayers on this matter would be much appreciated as well. Also, if anyone has any personal stories or testimonies along these lines, I would love to hear them if you would care to share any. :)
Without knowing the specifics, there are two things I recommend and agree with you on:

Develop the unconditional love walk whereby no adversity against you by any individual shakes you - for this is perfected Love, which casts out all fear. Where there is fear, there is no faith. Where there is perfected Love, there is no fear and the path to faith is free and open - and in Love fill yourself with the Word to build your faith.

At the same time, work to develop a lifestyle of sincere thanksgiving to the Lord in all matters - even that which you do not see. Keith Moore has a good teaching on this on BVOV over at KCM last week - search the archives and give them a good listen and be blessed. Giving thanks to God regardless takes your attention from the issues challenging your faith and puts your attention on the Author of your faith, whereby the Word can then strengthen and mature your faith.

Be well.
 
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Thank you Mike. Your words definitely speak to me, more than you know. Let me explain.

When God is trying to "drive home a point" to me, a lot of times I will notice that I hear the same message coming from different sources. (And I actually mentioned this "phenomenon" in the thread about God speaking) For instance, I will hear the pastor say something on Sunday morning, then hear the EXACT same thing said by a coworker later in the week, and they go to a different church, so they couldn't have heard the message themselves. Well, just in the past week, I have had the message given to me (via 2 different sources) about cultivating an attitude of thanksgiving. You are now the 3rd source of that message Mike. And it is in the SAME context as what I'm talking about in this thread -- talking about the issues of Faith, belief, doubt, unbelief, etc. So I know that God is seriously wanting me to become one who operates with a thankful heart at all times. Just wanted you to be aware of how you were used today, whether or not you even knew it at the time. :thumbsup:

To get back to the point of the thread now. It is difficult for me to convey exactly what it is I am seeking from God. All I can say is that I feel something inside of me "stirring" to seek MORE in my spiritual life, as well as in my day-to-day living. I believe wholeheartedly that God is showing me some incredible things about walking by faith. And I know that He is going to provide tests for me when the lesson is finished. Throughout this process, I am slowly becoming aware that I have a lot of unbelief in me. Part of this stems from my "religious" upbringing (I use that term "religious" NOT in a positive way here; no time to explain that, just please take my word for it). But most of it stems from the fact that I have spent so much time cultivating a "natural-minded life", rather than a spiritually minded life. I have always been a skeptical person, one who "had to see it to believe it". Even as a believer I've been that way. But now I feel like God is trying to call me out more into a supernatural, spiritual world. I still don't understand what He's trying to do in me, other than I just feel Him tugging at my heart to seek Him for more than what I have previously.

I truly wish I could explain and articulate to you guys what I feel and think is going on. The truth is, I just don't know how. It's perplexing (NOT confusing though, so I can't say it's not from God), yet it's somewhat exciting too. I have a sense of eager anticipation, not knowing what's around the next turn or over the next hill. Yet I have been made all too aware of this issue of unbelief that I have had inside myself for some time now. I suppose that's how God is starting things off with me -- dealing with that. All I know is, I am seeking Him daily that I may be RID of the unbelief.

Hopefully that does a better job of explaining things as I see them now.
 
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As I mentioned on the main forum, I feel like God has brought to my attention lately just how much unbelief I have in my mind. This is at a time when I am greatly desiring to step out in faith more in my life. It's not that I don't have faith. It's just that there is also unbelief there in my mind, counteracting and pulling against all that my faith is trying to do. I feel like the man who cried out with tears to Jesus in Mark 9:24, "Lord, I believe, help thou mind unbelief!"

I would really appreciate it if you guys would agree with me now that all of my unbelief would be cleansed from my mind, and QUICKLY. Your prayers on this matter would be much appreciated as well. Also, if anyone has any personal stories or testimonies along these lines, I would love to hear them if you would care to share any. :)

Hello - glad you could wait - I've been trying to get to the computer all day to do this! LOL! When I saw you on-line I thought, oh no, by the time I get to the computer today, everyone would have moved onto the next subject LOL!

What I'm about to say is really all about how my own faith has unfolded in my life. If someone had told me about 4 years ago that I would be where I am today, reading the Bible and being as commited as I am to this walk with the Lord, then I would have laughed and told them that they were completely nuts! I would have called the men in white coats to come to take them away! LOL! Yet, here I am, praise the Lord! :bow:

The first thing that came to mind when I read your request, was that you had unbelief in your mind. Don't listen to your mind - it's what's in your heart that counts. Jesus is in our hearts, and He lives, rules and reigns there. A big part of having faith, is not listening to our thoughts that might be telling us, 'Hey this is impossible in the natural' - remember we are not walking in the natural - we must walk by faith and not by sight.

You can begin to overcome this by saying to yourself, 'Ok, these are the facts however, the Bible says that my needs shall be met', or 'it looks like this is hopeless, but the Bible tells me that all things are possible with God'. Get into the word more. Quote the scriptures - and get into the habit of saying 'it is written' and then speak the scripture. That's what I did - I actually searched out what God promises for different issues that may come up in life, and then I made a list of Scriptures I could call upon when I needed to. I did this for the small things and the big things, and I have to say that my life has been transformed into something more wonderful than I could have ever dreamed possible!

Of course I am still standing and believing for some things - some very big and vitally important things - but because my faith muscles have been stretched by daily practice and use, I am now in a position where I am just waiting, trusting and believing and even laughing at my 'apparent' circumstances - I am walking in my faith. It does get easier.

I began to ask the Lord questions - just for some small issues - and I found the answers popping up in the most unexpected places. The more you trust in Him, the more you will find Him to be trustworthy.

Allow Him to live through you more - when confronted with a decision, even just a minor one, say 'Lord, what do you want me to do here', then trust that He is guiding you.

I started small with this too - you may laugh, but I would ask Him 'Hey Lord, what do YOU want me to eat for lunch today?' 'What do YOU want me to wear to the party?' 'What do YOU want me to say to this Salesperson?' And just allow Him to live through you - trusting that He is speaking to you and prompting. Don't worry about how He will do this - just leave the details up to Him.

You'll notice more and more that as you do this on a daily basis, you will find Him becoming your Master Scheduler! I find that with Him in control of my schedule - I get a lot more done lol! I can get to the end of the day and wonder 'How did I manage to do all that?' The Lord did it - that's how!

Just flow with it; when faced with difficulties say, 'I thankyou Lord for this situation and that YOU are in control. I trust you Jesus. You watch Him iron out all the bumps! LOL!

Trust Him in the little things and you will be rewarded. Then watch as your faith grows and grows...

Anyway, these are some suggestions for you that I believe the Holy Spirit has put in my heart to tell you. God bless you and I hope you feel free to come and share whenever you want.

I am agreeing with you that your faith muscles with grow and develop more and more with each step. In Jesus name. Amen. :prayer:

It is written Luke 17:5-6 NKJV "And the apostles said to the Lord, 'Increase our faith.' So the Lord said, 'If you have faith as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, 'Be pulled up by the roots and be planted in the sea,' and it would obey you." Amen.

God bless...



 
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Thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful response Shepherd. I appreciate your words of encouragement greatly. And thank you for agreeing with me on the "stretching the faith muscles" part. That's actually a pretty good way of putting into words what I feel in my heart. I need to start lifting weights with my faith muscles. :thumbsup:
 
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