Would You Go?

[TuxThePenguin]

Here in England summer camps arn't as all encompassing as they are in the US. although this one intrigues me.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Business/story?id=971881&page=1

Is it because American adults get very little time off work? Over here I get 25 days off a year plus 8 statutory holiday days. It also interested me that there are 6 Million Athiest/Agnostics in the US.

 

[psychedelicist]

If I honestly didn't have anything better to do with my summer than go to summer camp, I suppose I would.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

Here in England summer camps arn't as all encompassing as they are in the US. although this one intrigues me.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Business/story?id=971881&page=1

Is it because American adults get very little time off work? Over here I get 25 days off a year plus 8 statutory holiday days. It also interested me that there are 6 Million Athiest/Agnostics in the US.

How funny and sad at the same time.
I've gone to both religious and secular camp when I was young - the secular was absent of any reference of God.
The notion that a 'special' camp was founded and is based on strong Atheism says it all.
No, even if I was that young again, I could get the same world view and ideology pushed on me on discussion forums... even Christian ones.

 

[The Seeker]

"Camp Quest provides a refuge from a society where God feels omnipresent."
Am I the only one who found this particular line somewhat amusing?

 

[sparklecat]

"Camp Quest provides a refuge from a society where God feels omnipresent."
Am I the only one who found this particular line somewhat amusing?

Nope



I might send my child, if I had one, to something like this. I'd want to research it a bit more though, find out how... militant they are. I wouldn't want them to come away with an anti-religious viewpoint.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

I didn't think that most summer camps and things were very religious...at least they aren't in the UK. Mind you, I've not been to that many. Rob

 

[TuxThePenguin]

"Camp Quest provides a refuge from a society where God feels omnipresent."
Am I the only one who found this particular line somewhat amusing?

I Did... Anyone who doen't should try replacing omnipresent with omnipotent

 

[dr.p]

"Camp Quest provides a refuge from a society where God feels omnipresent." Am I the only one who found this particular line somewhat amusing?

Amusing? Not really... it kinda gives me the chills... and makes me a little I live in Ohio, very close to Butler county, and none of the camps I've been to or heard of, that weren't specifically Bible camps, required prayer... the one I went to when I was a kid didn't... and I've never heard any stories of religious camper oppression. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen... but I'd honestly be surprised if any camp around here forced religion; having lived here my whole life. I could see it happening a little further south, though.

I think I might call them up and go inquire as to why they found a need to... give God the boot. I'll bet anyone here that they try to get me to sign up for an "evening of education" or a "day of new experiences" of some kind; even if it's just endorsed and held elsewhere. I have a feeling they're out to change the world, one canoe at a time.

 

[Harlan Norris]

You might as well get used to it. The pressure that people feel, that relates to God comes from God. In my life I was pressured by my mother as a child and young adult. She tried everything. I hated every minunite of it. Once I had my freedom, you would think the issue would just go away. I hung around with a bunch of kids who were also non believers. My job as a pipefitter, rarely caused me to come in contact with with any Christians.Yet I often found, as you probably have, That I kept a running discourse in my mind, on the subject of God. God wants us with him. He goes to great lengths to cause us to become believers. I became a believer 2 years ago. I wish it had happened sooner. It's always a matter of choice though. You can't be forced to believe.

 

[charmtrap]

I think my favorite part of that article was:

Phil Burress of the Citizens for Community Values said Kagin's camp sends the wrong message. "What offends me more about this camp is the fact that they're teaching the myth of separation between church and state," said Burress.

How strange to be offended by what he terms a myth.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

I think my favorite part of that article was:

How strange to be offended by what he terms a myth.

I share that same sentiment myself - odd... but MINE is expressed about Atheists and their voiced 'offense'.

 

[charmtrap]

I share that same sentiment myself - odd... but MINE is expressed about Atheists and their voiced 'offense'.

I doubt you'll hear too many atheists voicing 'offense' at your myth. Derision perhaps, but not offense.

What offends is the followers, not the leader.

 

[dr.p]

How strange to be offended by what he terms a myth.

"The myth" refers to what most Christians believe to be "misconstrued" pieces of legislation that are being indoctrinated into political reform; writings of the founding fathers used to support current ideals in off-the-wall ways they really don't seem meant to; etc.

The founding fathers never intending religions to be excommunicated from the government, but for ALL religions (including NO religion) to have an equal say in it. The people pushing separation of church and state today, however, SEEM to just want religion and religiously-influenced people gone altogether... which is completely not what this country was founded for.

I think that's what offends most Christians so much. They don't seem to realize though that the government wasn't really founded under God, though... but for the people and by the people. This was meant to be a secular country, where all religions co-existed together peacefully... I wonder if that really is possible, though.

Sorry Didn't mean to ramble.