Would This Be Right?

[Julie]

What do you think of these 9 points of the conservative agenda?

1. Make tax cuts permanent.


2. Close the borders now.


3. Deport all illegal immigrants now.


4. Eliminate bilingual education in all states.


5. Require health tests for all recent foreign born immigrants.


6. Eliminate as many entitlement programs as possible.


7. Reduce the number of Federal Employees.


8. Oil Drilling on U.S. Soil.


9. Tort Reform "STOP LAWYERS".

 

[Tenek]

1. Make tax cuts permanent.
Don't make cuts you can't afford.

2. Close the borders now.

No

3. Deport all illegal immigrants now.

No

4. Eliminate bilingual education in all states.

No

5. Require health tests for all recent foreign born immigrants.

No

6. Eliminate as many entitlement programs as possible.

Not enough info to make a judgement

7. Reduce the number of Federal Employees.

For what purpose?

8. Oil Drilling on U.S. Soil.

If not in any 'special' areas... parks, wildlife reserves, etc.

9. Tort Reform "STOP LAWYERS".

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[Texas Lynn]

well, you labeled it right. As for which are the "Bush Agenda" , #s 1, 7, 8, and 9 are about all the President supports and those with reservations.

As a liberal I'm against all of them except #8 and that's because of where I'm from; most liberals elsewhere would not support that one.

7 is tricky; they just go from civil service to contractors and pay them less and corporate America gets a percentage then.

If this is somebody's priorities I'm pleased there's nothing about sex or abortion in there, though the xenophobia in 2, 3, and 4 is horrible.

 

[Aviyah]

1. Make tax cuts permanent.
yes

2. Close the borders now?
yes borders language culture
fact:
that 25% of all Federal Prisoners are in this country illecgally

3. Deport all illegal immigrants now? yes


Deport all Foreign Nationals who have bypassed a Criminal background check.

Require a LOYALTY OATH of all immigrants.

Put our military and/or National Guard Units on our borders

4. Eliminate bilingual education in all states yes.

5.Require health tests for all recent foreign born immigrants. yes

6. Eliminate as many entitlement programs as possible. definatly yes we can barely take care of our own ppl here whithout having to reward illeagel aliens
for breaking the law


7. Reduce the number of Federal Employees.
yes


8. Oil Drilling on U.S. Soil.
yes
if we drill on our own soil it will lessen the dependacy on forigien oil

9. Tort Reform "STOP LAWYERS"
yes

 

[mala]

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
Require a LOYALTY OATH of all immigrants.

what exactly would that accomplish might i ask?

saying a few words dont have a magical effect on the people who say them.

if you want proof just look at all the kids who say the oath of allegiance in schools and then go and shoplift, rob people, kill people.

don't be so naive.

and what about jehova's witnesses. they dont swear allegiance to anyone but god.

what will you do with those people? put them in concentra.... i mean determent camps.

 

[Tenek]

What exactly is wrong with bilingual education, anyways? English supremacist or what?

 

[Brimshack]

So that Native Americans can finally be forced to give up their pagan argots no doubt.

 

[gwyyn]

I support the health testing of forgien immigrants. I have had my name pop up on patient charts as being in contact with one to many TB postive patients that where immigrants. I worked in ER for several years before having my son. Everytime you get notice to be tested made your stomach drop.

I do think we should allow more drilling on American Soil, but not in National Parks.

Deporting illegal immigrants is a tricky one for me, since I live in area of US that has high population of illegal immigrants.

No don't think bilingual education should be stopped, just think it should be started at earlier age when children learn it easier than in highschool.

As for tax cuts, i do not know enough about ecomonics to judge on this matter.

What would be the purpose in reducing number of federal employees. Hope thier not talking about IRS, sheesh hard enough to get someone on the hotline now.

I wouldn't say close the borders, but tighten the security of the borders.

And as for the last one, if it's referring to stopping stupid lawsuits! Heck ya I get tired of people suing someone for some dumb reason, when the person sueing probaly was at fault for whatever happened.

Example, the stupid mc donalds case.

sorry all out of order, just kept scrolling up heheee

 

[JillLars]

What do you think of these 9 points of the conservative agenda?

1. Make tax cuts permanent.

No

2. Close the borders now.

No, The United States is a Melting Pot, I think we should have better monitoring at the borders to reduce illegal immigration.
3. Deport all illegal immigrants now.


4. Eliminate bilingual education in all states.

I think its important for people who speak English to learn another language as well as for those who don't speak English to learn it. I also think it should start at an earlier age.


5. Require health tests for all recent foreign born immigrants.

I would not object to health tests for foreign born immigrants, simply as a safety precaution.

6. Eliminate as many entitlement programs as possible.

hmm..I'm not sure what you mean by entitlement programs..

7. Reduce the number of Federal Employees.

I think the number of paper-pushers should be reduced...and jobs should be created where people don't have 50 bosses to answer to. (but that should go for all work places, not just federal)

8. Oil Drilling on U.S. Soil.

As long as it isn't in a wildlife refuge, or other nationally protected area, If they are nationally protected then our nation obviously had a reason to protect them in the first place.

9. Tort Reform "STOP LAWYERS".

Huh?

 

[Tenek]

Originally posted by gwyyn
And as for the last one, if it's referring to stopping stupid lawsuits! Heck ya I get tired of people suing someone for some dumb reason, when the person sueing probaly was at fault for whatever happened.

Example, the stupid mc donalds case.

ah, everybody complains about the infamous McDonald's coffee lawsuit, never mind that it's akin to buying a knife which cuts through your food, plate, table, leg, and bone before you can do anything about it. 96% of the boiling point of water is a little too hot for mine, thank you. If they'd paid the $20,000 bill in the first place there wouldn't be a problem.

 

[gwyyn]

lol i was referrign the latest mcdonalds case. someone filed suit cause Mcdonald's food made them overweight.

 

[Aviyah]

Tenek, you said
What exactly is wrong with bilingual education, anyways? English supremacist or what

what is wrong whith it is the fact Why should i have to learn a different language i feel if you come here from a difrent country you should be able to speak English or you shouldnt be here at all we should not have to learn spanish etc the main language is ENGLISH

what i find intresting is that most of you who say that we shouldnt close our borders how do you think some of the 9-11 hyjackers came yes thats right they sneaked in from canada

,and TB has made a come back due to the rising illegal alien population to those who say no to deporting illegel aliens and no to closing the borders i have a question for you ?

do you think we should reward those who cross our borders illegaly? with welfare and ssi benifets , or free health care?you may want to support them but i sure dont why should we cater to them?

its all about BORDERS, LANUAGE, CULTURE

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
what i find intresting is that most of you who say that we shouldnt close our borders how do you think some of the 9-11 hyjackers came yes thats right they sneaked in from canada

That's right, blame Canada, despite that there's no evidence that the Sept. 11th hijackers actually crossed into the U.S. from Canada.

its all about BORDERS, LANUAGE, CULTURE

Not to mention close-minded paranoia

 

[mala]

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
its all about BORDERS, LANUAGE, CULTURE

hmmmmmmmmmm mind telling me again what culture that is?

nothern european perhaps?

i guess anything that doesnt fit into that doesn't belong

oh well

 

[Aviyah]

quote[that's right, blame Canada, despite that there's no evidence that the Sept. 11th hija
ckers actually crossed into the U.S. from Canada.]

here is a link for you to read

U.S. to Bring in New Rules for Canada Immigrants
54 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States signaled on Friday its intention to go ahead with requiring visas for immigrants to Canada from certain Commonwealth countries, including India and Pakistan
when these ppl come from different countrys to canada they are not required to have a visa but as usual the canadians are crying racial profiling

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...nm/20030131/wl_canada_nm/canada_usa_visas_col
US to bring in new rules for Canada Immigrants

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
here is a link for you to read

<snip>

So?

It's the United States' responsibility for who gets into the U.S., not Canada's.

Btw, that article had nothing to do with whether or not the Sept 11th hijackers crossed into the U.S. from Canada.

Also btw, you might want to look at where a lot of the U.S. bound planes were routed after U.S. airports were shut down on Sept 11th.

 

[two feathers]

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
Why should i have to learn a different language i feel if you come here from a difrent country you should be able to speak English or you shouldnt be here at all we should not have to learn spanish etc the main language is ENGLISH

That's brilliant.

 

[two feathers]

1. Make tax cuts permanent.

Is that on Federal and State levels?

2. Close the borders now.

Absolutely not.

3. Deport all illegal immigrants now.

No.

4. Eliminate all bilingual education in all states.

That's ludicrous.

5. Require health tests for all recent born immigrants.

No.

6. Reduce the number of Federal Employees.

Yes.

7. Oil drilling on U.S. soil.

No.

8. Tort Reform "STOP LAWYERS"

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[Texas Lynn]

Originally posted by two feathers
8. Tort Reform "STOP LAWYERS"

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"Tort Reform" means ---in the p.r. response of its advocates---being able to limit the rights to file frivilous lawsuits.&nbsp; In practice, though, it is a concept by big business and the politicians in thrall to corporatism, to limit the rights of "little guys" to sue the powerful.

We all know of lawsuits that seem ridiculous---the McDonald's coffee case out of Albequerque comes readily to mind---but that is no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Plaintiff's attorneys are some of the unsung heroes of today.

 

[two feathers]

Thanks Texas Lynn.