Would someone please prove that creationism is not a crock,

[gaara4158]

Yes --- God uses a four-fold process in getting His Word to us:

1. Inspiriation --- [creates His Word]
2. Preservation --- [protects His Word]
3. Translation --- [updates His Word]
4. Propagation --- [spreads His Word]

And is this outlined in "His Word" or did you get this from somewhere else?

 

[mpok1519]

fossils = proof of evolution

lack of evidence = lack of proof for creation

Its pretty clear what happened; i mean, if they can find artwork dating 20,000 years ago, it doesnt take a genius to figure out that the 7,000 year old earth is false. People were making stone tools and cave paintings way before the Bible was even written.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Yes --- God uses a four-fold process in getting His Word to us:

1. Inspiriation --- [creates His Word]
2. Preservation --- [protects His Word]
3. Translation --- [updates His Word]
4. Propagation --- [spreads His Word]

and this relates to the KJV how?

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes --- God uses a four-fold process in getting His Word to us:

1. Inspiriation --- [creates His Word]
2. Preservation --- [protects His Word]
3. Translation --- [updates His Word]
4. Propagation --- [spreads His Word]

And is this outlined in "His Word" or did you get this from somewhere else?

You be the judge:

1. Inspiration --- creates His Word ---

All scripture is given by inspiration of God...

2. Preservation --- protects His Word ---

6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

3. Translation --- updates His Word ---

6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

4. Propagation --- spreads His Word ---

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

 

[gaara4158]

You be the judge:

1. Inspiration --- creates His Word ---2. Preservation --- protects His Word ---3. Translation --- updates His Word ---4. Propagation --- spreads His Word ---

Just a couple things:
1. At the time Timothy was written, the New Testament wasn't considered scripture yet.

3. How on Earth did you get "translation" out of that? It's obviously stressing how pure God's word is, never even mentioning translation or "updates."

2 and 4, fair enough.

 

[AV1611VET]

Just a couple things:
1. At the time Timothy was written, the New Testament wasn't considered scripture yet.

If Abraham Lincoln would have said, "All bullets are potentially deadly," --- would that include the ones manufactured today?

3. How on Earth did you get "translation" out of that? It's obviously stressing how pure God's word is, never even mentioning translation or "updates."

Correct --- but when "dross" enters the picture --- a refining method is needed.

 

[gaara4158]

If Abraham Lincoln would have said, "All bullets are potentially deadly," --- would that include the ones manufactured today?

it would, but he'd be incorrect. I've never heard of anyone killed by a paper bullet. In the same way, what was scripture then is different from what scripture is now.

Correct --- but when "dross" enters the picture --- a refining method is needed.

I am in no mood, AV.

 

[AV1611VET]

it would, but he'd be incorrect. I've never heard of anyone killed by a paper bullet.

Well, I was close --- I thought someone was going to say "plastic bullet".

I am in no mood, AV.

Good --- then take a course on Basic Doctrine and tell them what you told me.

 

[gaara4158]

Well, I was close --- I thought someone was going to say "plastic bullet".

Well, if a BB hit you in the right spot with enough force you might be in trouble. But in any case, your point has been negated.

Good --- then take a course on Basic Doctrine and tell them what you told me.

I took the full program in prep school. I wasn't impressed. In reality, when things are lost in translation, they're not miraculously "updated," they're lost in translation. The End.

 

[Nathan Poe]

If Abraham Lincoln would have said, "All bullets are potentially deadly," --- would that include the ones manufactured today?

Does Abraham Lincoln have the authority to decide what would and would not come from God?

Correct --- but when "dross" enters the picture --- a refining method is needed.

Be a good boy and come up with one that at least passes the laugh test.

 

[Hespera]

we take the above as very dry humour

 

[AV1611VET]

I took the full program in prep school.

You took the full program in prep school, yet you still ask me this ---

And is this outlined in "His Word" or did you get this from somewhere else?

I'm not saying you didn't take the full program --- I believe you did --- but I have to wonder why you even had to ask me that.

If you disagree with points 1 and 3, why didn't you ask your teacher?

I guess what I don't understand is: are you denying that this is in the Bible, or are you denying that this is taught as Basic Doctrine, or both?

 

[Hespera]

You took the full program in prep school, yet you still ask me this ---I'm not saying you didn't take the full program --- I believe you did --- but I have to wonder why you even had to ask me that.

If you disagree with points 1 and 3, why didn't you ask your teacher?

I guess what I don't understand is: are you denying that this is in the Bible, or are you denying that this is taught as Basic Doctrine, or both?

Maybe there is a difference between taking the program, and, being programmed?