Would it make sense for a gentile to convert to Judaism?

[Tolworth John]

According to whom? You?

The Talmudic sages which shaped modern Judaism said a gentile who converts was NO DIFFERENT than the native born son. And they (as Jews) alone have the right to say who is a Jew and who is not. (not = gentile)

acording to your reply no 9

 

[Dave-W]

acording to your reply no 9

Then you misunderstand post #9. It is not that the orthodox would treat anyone differently; it is just they do not recognize anyone but themselves to have authority to make conversions.

But once the conversion is recognized, you are the same as a native born.

BTW - among some of the ultra orthodox in Israel, there is a move underway to define Reform and Conservative Judaism as a religion OTHER than Judaism. So it is more of a disdain for the more liberal streams of Judaism, not for the conversion process or the convert. In one sense they are trying to "de-convert" native born Jews from being Jewish.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Before when I didn't know any religion I thought I should start there because I needed to understand the Old Testament first. But before that even happened I already found Jesus and know he is my savior.

But I am curious would it make any sense for a gentile to convert to Judaism? I don't think the Orthodox Jews would even consider them Jewish, read that somewhere but I don't know.

But I am thankful we are not under the law.

I study a lot of the "Jewish" teaching. It is better to stick with a Messianic "Jew". Although someone like Gerald Schroeder is acceptable because of his strong background in science to verify his religious beliefs and teachings. So you have check and balance.

 

[joshua 1 9]

According to whom? You?

The Talmudic sages which shaped modern Judaism said a gentile who converts was NO DIFFERENT than the native born son. And they (as Jews) alone have the right to say who is a Jew and who is not. (not = gentile)

They are amazingly pure though. Not only have they not inner married but there is also not a lot of adoptions or babies from affairs. This tends to work against them because there is a lot of inbreeding and the genetic diseases that goes along with that. There is also a lot of inbreeding with Amish people here in this country and that causes a lot of health problems for them. There is a lot of research in Jerusalem to try to find a cure for genetic diseases.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Obviously not from the passages I posted. "the Jews religion" was not Paul's religion.

Paul was a "Jew's Jew". We could not begin to understand the Old Testament the way he does. Although maybe when we get to Heaven we will better understand.

 

[ewq1938]

The “Jews religion” and Christianity were the same until 135 ad.

Not according to Paul.

 

[Dave-W]

Not according to Paul.

You are misreading Paul if you believe that.

 

[ewq1938]

You are misreading Paul if you believe that.

Or you have been.