Would a just and merciful God send most of His creation to an eternal hell?

[katallasso]

Mic 6:8He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

So does our God require more of us than of Himself?

 

[EchoPneuma]

Mic 6:8He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

So does our God require more of us than of Himself?

Gee Miz Kat, it seems we were thinking along the same lines. I just posted a thread, much longer than yours I'm afraid, that talks about our warped view of what "hell" is because of the traditions of men.

My answer to your question is "NO". God wouldn't.

 

[katallasso]

Where's your thread, echo?

 

[EchoPneuma]

Where's your thread, echo?

Right below yours on this forum...

 

[red77]

seems like there's a few people thinking along the same lines on this one.......! My vote is no, true love and light conquer punishment, if we're capable of acts of kindness,forgiveness and mercy to each other regardless of whether its accepted or not then the love and mercy of God would surely outshine ours (by a very long way) IMO anyway.............

 

[PastorMikeJ]

Nope He won't but He won't stop you from sending oursleves there...

 

[Havahope]

Nope He won't but He won't stop you from sending oursleves there...

IMO, sending someone to an eternal hell such as some believe hell to be, and not stopping one from going there, when they have the power and the means to prevent it, would be the same thing.

 

[Uphill Battle]

The lock on Hells door is on the INside...

 

[Havahope]

The lock on Hells door is on the INside...

So does that mean that you believe that someone who is already there would have to let a person in? Or, that a person can let themselves out anytime they want to?

 

[Uphill Battle]

So does that mean that you believe that someone who is already there would have to let a person in? Or, that a person can let themselves out anytime they want to?

neither.

 

[Havahope]

neither.

Then, what does it mean?

 

[Uphill Battle]

Then, what does it mean?

that we choose hell, not that we are sent there. In fact, we are all on our way there, unless we choose not to. (Christ.)

 

[Havahope]

that we choose hell, not that we are sent there. In fact, we are all on our way there, unless we choose not to. (Christ.)

This is approximately the same as what MIKEJ said. And my opinion is the same: Sending someone to an eternal hell such as some believe hell to be, and not stopping one from going there, when they have the power and the means to prevent it, would be the same thing.

So now the question remains: Would a just and merciful God who has the power and the means to prevent it, send someone to an eternal hell of torment?

 

[Uphill Battle]

This is approximately the same as what MIKEJ said. And my opinion is the same: Sending someone to an eternal hell such as some believe hell to be, and not stopping one from going there, when they have the power and the means to prevent it, would be the same thing.

So now the question remains: Would a just and merciful God who has the power and the means to prevent it, send someone to an eternal hell of torment?

then the answer would be yes, if the choice is given, and rejected.

 

[spinningtutu]

And my answer to that question is an emphatic NO.

The concept of 'hell' is very misunderstood and distorted and used as a fear tactic device.

Personally, I would be more concerned about the 'hell' that we have made out of things here on earth...Except to affirm that the so-called 'afterlife' may naturally be a continuation of whatever existence one already had, 99% of all talk regarding the 'afterlife' and 'hell' or whatever is nothing more superstitition, imagination and speculation.

 

[red77]

then the answer would be yes, if the choice is given, and rejected.

Bit more of the same 'black and whiteness' I've kinda come to expect from certain 'areas' in the church.....So God has created a place of eternal torment then......?

 

[red77]

And my answer to that question is an emphatic NO.

The concept of 'hell' is very misunderstood and distorted and used as a fear tactic device.

Personally, I would be more concerned about the 'hell' that we have made out of things here on earth...Except to affirm that the so-called 'afterlife' may naturally be a continuation of whatever existence one already had, 99% of all talk regarding the 'afterlife' and 'hell' or whatever is nothing more superstitition, imagination and speculation.

IMO hell in the orthodox form is definitely fear based, I've seen and experienced the message first hand unfortunately.........can i ask what u believe in.....?

 

[spinningtutu]

I believe that it is a much different sort of thing to claim that perhaps-

'following Jesus gives us life of an eternal nature' (not referring to the next life, but referring radically to the one we are in now)

and thus

'following one's self, choosing selfishness over selflessness, etc etc, is in the final analysis, self destructive and hell' (again, not in an abstract or theological sense, but rather in a practical and relevent sense).

Therefore, interpretting it in a practical and natural way, I'm comfortable affirming that:
"If we trust in Jesus, we will find everlasting life, but if we do not, we will be condemned".

In fact, I have this entire lens on whenever intrepretting/analyzing any of this sort of thing. It came as a byproduct of studying Paul Tillich and Rudolf Bultmann, but also and especially John AT Robinson's 'Honest to God'.

 

[red77]

I believe that it is a much different sort of thing to claim that perhaps-

'following Jesus gives us life of an eternal nature' (not referring to the next life, but referring radically to the one we are in now)

and thus

'following one's self, choosing selfishness over selflessness, etc etc, is in the final analysis, self destructive and hell' (again, not in an abstract or theological sense, but rather in a practical and relevent sense).

Therefore, interpretting it in a practical and natural way, I'm comfortable affirming that:
"If we trust in Jesus, we will find everlasting life, but if we do not, we will be condemned".

In fact, I have this entire lens on whenever intrepretting/analyzing any of this sort of thing. It came as a byproduct of studying Paul Tillich and Rudolf Bultmann, but also and especially John AT Robinson's 'Honest to God'.

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I can relate to a lot of that.......life is as relevant now as the hereafter and a lot of the time the 'church' is too preoccupied with what happens after we die than to be bothered with what happens on this plane IMO.......

 

[timlamb]

Mic 6:8He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

So does our God require more of us than of Himself?

John 1:10-12;
"He was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him. He came to that which was His own, but His own did not recieve Him. Yet to all who recieved Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God."

You seem to think that all creation will someday recieve Jesus, given enough time. The bible says that won't happen, and all you have to do is look at this world to believe it. Hatered for Christianity is growing.
The earth will be destroied by fire, and a new heaven and earth will follow. A new home of love for the children of God, those who hate us will not be invited.


!st John 3:1 "How great is the love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called the children of God! and that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him."

!st John 5:1 "Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves His children as well."

There is a clear seperation between the children of God and the world, "His sheep know His voice"
There is no biblical basis to believe that everyone repents, no matter how long you give them.
God will burn up His creation, His children will be saved.

To answer your question, He says He will, and I believe Him; He has His plan, and I trust Him.