Worship

[MarkEvan]

Lets not confuse the wording here please. I have never been to a "mass", I don't know what that really means. I have no idea if the mass of The Church of Rome is today truely The Divine Liturgy. Some Catholic Churches still practice it ( Christ God Bless them) and some do not. Their loss.

As the world drifts farther away in time less is maintained.

I believe you will find us laying down our lives in The Divine Liturgy. That is why we are there.

We cleanse our thoughts words and deeds... laying aside all earthly cares. (Cherubic Hymn from The Divine Liturgy)

You must experience it... preferably in your native language, there is no substitute.

Forgive me...

I understand (I think) what you are saying, but still hold reservations. If the divine liturgy is a service or a sacrement, then as far as I can see it lasts only for a few hours at max, Paul as has already been said defines Spiritual worship as the laying down of our lives, I agree that the Liturgy can be part of worship but not that it is the only mode of worship otherwise to lay down our lives completely we would have to constantly attend the divine Liturgy as this is the only mode of worship.

If however the Liturgy is a state of continual self sacrifice for the LORD then I can whole heartedly accept that as it means that it can be practiced at work, home church......etc, and therefore conforms to Laying down our lives as an acceptable sacrifice to the LORD which is our spiritual worship.


If I have misunderstood again then my appologies please....


...Forgive me



sorry I couldn`t resist, why do you put that there, if it is personal you don`t have to answer.

Mark

 

[Deryl]

Before another thread is derailed, I am starting this one on worship.

What does worship mean, and what sort of worship does our Lord desire from us.

What do you say worship is?

Must it be 'reverent'?

Simply put, worship is giving reverence to the most high God (the God of Abraham), and soulfully acknowledging Him for the mercy and grace that he lovingly povides for all who dilligently seek an intimante relationship with him.

 

[sunlover1]

What is worship? Sunday service? Singing? Sacrifices? Ah how God became tired of those sacrifices (Isaiah 1:11-17) and why? Because they were just a cover under which to hide evil doings. God has not desire for empty rituals.

What is worship? It is the first and greatest commandment, to love the Lord thy God, with all of your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind.



God laid down His life for us on the cross, so we know that He love us more that we can understand. He is the definition of goodness and love. So what should we have to fear from Him? No one is more faithful or worthy of love. So why should we fear Him?

Why?

Because we cannot control Him. There is nothing we can do to appease Him. There is nothing we can say to manipulate Him. There is nothing we can quote to bind Him. There is nothing we can think that will contain Him. We fear what we cannot understand or control, and God is most certainly beyond our ability to understand or control.

Can you stand in front of God with confidence and say, "I am saved!" without trembling with fear? I am not such a fool!

But fear need not spoil your love for God if you surrender yourself to His will. The second commandment was to love your neighbor as yourself. But the first commandment had no such proviso, for you should most definitely love God more than yourself. Love God because He is good and more worthy of love than anything in the universe and NOT because there is something you think to get from Him. Do this and there is no fear.

Awesome, from the heart.

 

[sunlover1]

Simply put, worship is giving reverence to the most high God (the God of Abraham), and soulfully acknowledging Him for the mercy and grace that he lovingly povides for all who dilligently seek an intimante relationship with him.

I love this.
Thank you.
And it makes me realise that though we worship Him in spirit, our flesh is affected.
My heart feels full just reading this stuff.

 

[a_ntv]

I have never been to a "mass", I don't know what that really means. I have no idea if the mass of The Church of Rome is today truely The Divine Liturgy

Said by you it is a opening...thanks

PS: you can go to attend a Mass...I've been many time to a EO Liturgy...
Anyway if you cannot go, have a look to this photo of a celebration in my cathedral (NO)http://www.chiesadimilano.it/or/ADMI/imgs/photogallery/2006/06/04_pentecoste/index.htm

But if this is true that the divine liturgy is the mass, how can peope say that this is the only true mode of worship when it does not even qualify for Romans 12, our acceptable worship is the laying down of our lives in sacrifice. I am not denying that for someone who is a true believer that the liurgy can be a part of worship as it is part of life butt it is not worship in and of itself!

Well, there are three worship:
- the Worship in the Heaven (And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb, Revelation 21:22)
- the Worship made ad each Liturgy/Mass/... on the altar of the church: it is the very only sacrifice of Christ on the cross, re-newed for us
- the Worship made in the temple that is our body, where we offer our life as sacrifice (=priesthood of all believers).

These thee sacrifices are complementary: any one of them is needed: to give relevence to one of them do NOT means to forget the others.
A good christian life is a good balance of all of them.