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J4Jesus said:2 Samuel 6
16 Now as the ark of the LORD came into the City of David, Michal, Sauls daughter, looked through a window and saw King David leaping and whirling before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart.
17 So they brought the ark of the LORD, and set it in its place in the midst of the tabernacle that David had erected for it. Then David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the LORD.
18 And when David had finished offering burnt offerings and peace offerings, he blessed the people in the name of the LORD of hosts.
19 Then he distributed among all the people, among the whole multitude of Israel, both the women and the men, to everyone a loaf of bread, a piece of meat, and a cake of raisins. So all the people departed, everyone to his house. 20 Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel today, uncovering himself today in the eyes of the maids of his servants, as one of the base fellows shamelessly uncovers himself!
21 So David said to Michal, It was before the LORD, who chose me instead of your father and all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the LORD, over Israel. Therefore I will play music before the LORD.
22 And I will be even more undignified than this, and will be humble in my own sight. But as for the maidservants of whom you have spoken, by them I will be held in honor.
23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no children to the day of her death.
The word 'therefore' shows what is said is connected, related to, the results of, what was before it. I believe its true what I have heard some say, that " When you see the word "therefore" look at the verses before that to see what it's there for".
This reminds me of that song "Aint gonna let no rock take my place".habeas said:Luke 19:37-40
And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen;
Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in he name of the Lord: peace in heaven and glory in the highest. And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples. And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace the stones would immediately cry out.
If you must keep silence, please do not expect the Lord to rebuke those who cannot contain their peace for expressing the glory of the Lord in the loudest, most boisterous way!
Perhaps these in the multitude should have consulted the texts and analyzed to death whether or not they should praise the Lord in a loud voice. Perhaps they could not or else the ROCKS would CRY OUT!
And, mind you, they were IN PUBLIC!
janny108 said:Has anyone heard of church where in worship some people are jumping up and down? The first time I saw that in church, it made me think people were on pogo sticks...! LOL
Jan
nephilimiyr said:This reminds me of that song "Aint gonna let no rock take my place".
nephilimiyr said:This reminds me of that song "Aint gonna let no rock take my place".
I think the people here have proven it to be biblical by the Psalms they have quoted. Worship can be very active and lively.MikeMcK said:It's Unbiblical.
Could you please show me in the Bible where jumping up and down in worship to God is condemned? If you can't then please stop judgeing people and their way of worship. Just because you believe that you can't show reverence to God by jumping up and down doesn't mean you should force that view upon anyone else.The Bible says that worship should be both reverent and orderly.
nephilimiyr said:I think the people here have proven it to be biblical by the Psalms they have quoted.
Could you please show me in the Bible where jumping up and down in worship to God is condemned?
Just because you believe that you can't show reverence to God by jumping up and down doesn't mean you should force that view upon anyone else.
Yes. I used to belong to a church like that in another state. I absolutely loved it when the whole room was worshipping God that way. Boy I miss that church.janny108 said:Has anyone heard of church where in worship some people are jumping up and down? The first time I saw that in church, it made me think people were on pogo sticks...! LOL
Jan
That is what I was taught. God is more worthy than any of those others- of ALL our praise!GlendaJoanne said:If we feel moved to "hoot & holler" for a rock star.. or a football team.. How much more should be moved to give a jump & a shout for the King of Kings.. the Lord of Lords.. The Alpha & Omega?
Jack, you need to lighten up. Maybe have some Jack.Jim M said:Okay. But you need to use your God-given common sense in church moshing. I don’t mosh (i.e., jump up and down) at Wal-Mart, the grocery store, doctor’s waiting rooms, the library, symphonic concerts, university classroom lectures, funerals, wedding ceremonies and a lot of other public events where it is not well-mannered to do so, either. But I may mosh at a rock concert, pep rally, or ballgame, where it is acceptable.
I may mosh at a Penetcostal campmeeting and some live-wire Charismatic churches where it is acceptable but maybe not in a liturgical Anglican worship service where it is not.
Depends on your surroundings whether some behavior is decent and in order.
Sincerely,
~Jack Pot
FireOfGod said:If I came to your church and jumped up and down and fell over "drunk" in the Spirit, what would you do? Kick me out?
FireOfGod said:Counsel me for what? Being excited about Jesus?
Even if it wasn't bothering anyone and it wasn't hurting anyone?
FireOfGod said:Yep. I personally do it a lot, as well as many others in my church.
Jack, you need to lighten up. Maybe have some Jack.(C'mon... it was a joke)
You give off the impression that it is wrong/weird/unbiblical/stupid to do "unusual" things in church. Like jumping up and down or getting lightheaded and stumbling a bit under the anointing and these such things. Now, I don't care what you say. But the impression of what you're saying is just that.
If one can/will jump up and down and cheer on their favorite hockey team and not get nearly that excited about Jesus, there might be something wrong. If I'm at a concert and I'm going crazy, singing and dancing, jumping and screaming because I am so in to the band, and then I'm in church and I just sit there with my eyes closed, well that just wouldn't be me. Some people do just sit and close their eyes. Nothing wrong with that. But those people are also likely to just sit and watch the game instead of really get into it.
Basically, if you get more excited over a stupid game than Jesus, something isn't right. That's just odd. Things can be descent and in order even if people get excited. No one's getting hurt or causing any trouble. What is the harm?
If I came to your church and jumped up and down and fell over "drunk" in the Spirit, what would you do? Kick me out?
Oh, and, by the way... "Moshing" isn't jumping up and down. It is to run into everyone usually in the middle of people encircling you. I've yet to see this at a church.
So I'm worshiping God in Spirit and in Truth, with all of my heart, body and soul, and this is unbiblical? I've not ready ANYWHERE in the Bible where it tells us what to do during worship. God's never said anything about being quiet and still. He just said worship in Spirit and in Truth.MikeMcK said:No. For engaging in the Unbiblical practice of "being slain in the spirit".
Whether it's bothering anyone or hurting anyone isn't the point. The point is whether or not such practices are justifiable from scripture.
MikeMcK said:Before God delivered me from WoF, I saw this many times and even did it, myself.
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FireOfGod said:So I'm worshiping God in Spirit and in Truth, with all of my heart, body and soul, and this is unbiblical?
If you want perfect order, go to a graveyard. That's the only place you'll find the kind of order you're looking for.
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