World of Warcraft. evil?

RichardE · Feb 11, 2007

ScottyL said:
Right, like the bible is the only book that has any truth in it.

Fiar point however many like me also question the bibles ow truths and wonders so nothing nowadays has full ownership of truth, in the end truth is what you make it even though there is only ever one truth and that is fact. So techincally niether bible nor other relgios type book can be truth as they are not proven fact but one could argue they are fact of the beholder.

Damn I love paradoxes.

Oh and FS, lol, yes, scooby beat the devil.... who when we reveal the mask its Geo....

Theogonia · Feb 11, 2007

RichardE said:
Fiar point however many like me also question the bibles ow truths and wonders so nothing nowadays has full ownership of truth, in the end truth is what you make it even though there is only ever one truth and that is fact. So techincally niether bible nor other relgios type book can be truth as they are not proven fact but one could argue they are fact of the beholder.

Damn I love paradoxes.

Oh and FS, lol, yes, scooby beat the devil.... who when we reveal the mask its Geo....

I agree that almost no book has complete truth.

I believe the Torah, the 5 books of Moses are complete truth though.

The Jews have so carefully kept the Torah and transcribed the original writings I believe that nothing has been lost over time.

ravendta · Feb 11, 2007

ScottyL said:
Right, like the bible is the only book that has any truth in it.

I'm sure other books may have some truth, but when someone writes something that conflicts with the Bible, I'm going to believe the Bible first.

I mean geez, if anyone can change the rules, then I should write books about some of the wacky dreams I've had. I'd probably make a fortune and gain a bunch of followers in the process. </sarcasm>

RichardE · Feb 11, 2007

ScottyL said:
I agree that almost no book has complete truth.

I believe the Torah, the 5 books of Moses are complete truth though.

The Jews have so carefully kept the Torah and transcribed the original writings I believe that nothing has been lost over time.

see thats still opinion and not full proof fact however on that basis i belive in a ultimate lord with no ability to prove his existance thus who am I to argue, personally its all subjective and opinion, no book has 100 truth to it unless it is proven hard core facts, undenied by all. and undenied by science

like i said this is why i have my own reservations for the bible but hey im not perfect

ravendta · Feb 11, 2007

"Science." Bah.

Theogonia · Feb 11, 2007

Oh, that's right. Science is satanic, evil, and untrue.

RichardE · Feb 11, 2007

lol he didnt say that he simply said bah lol

the point im simply trying to make is truth can be of something as a personal thing but dont say to me one or the other thing is truth or fact unless it is hard fact, im simply that petty.

ravendta · Feb 11, 2007

ScottyL said:
Oh, that's right. Science is satanic, evil, and untrue.

Boy, you're pretty quick at jumping to conclusions, aren't you?

I doubt a LOT of what "science" claims, but having not been involved in the studies myself, I can't say anything for sure.

Do us all a favor and stop making assumptions about how other people feel. Thanks.

Now back to your regularly scheduled topic.

RichardE · Feb 11, 2007

just reamber he was bieng sarcastic, not literal but anyways

you have right not to trust science asm uch is guess work but with such discoveries that they do find, which become more apprent as years pass, its hard to ignore, then again im someone who belives the two can work together

"science shall never prove or disprove the lord, thus it will simply fill in the blanks of the workings of the earth"

"we ask what, when, where, why and how, however god is in his own catagory, with a box we can niether open nor close"

Theogonia · Feb 11, 2007

ravendta said:
Boy, you're pretty quick at jumping to conclusions, aren't you?

I doubt a LOT of what "science" claims, but having not been involved in the studies myself, I can't say anything for sure.

Do us all a favor and stop making assumptions about how other people feel. Thanks.

Now back to your regularly scheduled topic.

With a comment such as, ""Science", Bah", what am I to assume you mean?

ravendta · Feb 11, 2007

ScottyL said:
With a comment such as, ""Science", Bah", what am I to assume you mean?

Most would not ASSUME, anything. If someone said, "Christianity, bah" to me, I'd say, "What makes you say that?"

I never assume. It leads to assumptions.

GuitarHero2 · Feb 11, 2007

ScottyL said:
^That's a harsh way of putting it but I agree.

Yeah I admit it I was a bit too harsh and I apolgize if I offended anybody, I was kinda in a bad mood when posting.

GuitarHero2 · Feb 11, 2007

ravendta said:
One might wonder why you, a proclaimed Athiest, would even bother becoming a member on a "Christian" forum.

Edit: Though, I do agree that too many Christians are quick to jump on anything and everything and proclaim it as evil.

Good question, I guess because I'm curious about religion. I though consider myself more of a Humanist more than an atheist(not that it matters, being that both beliefs are somewhat similar), in fact my icon is in the process of being changed, from atheist to Humanist.

ravendta · Feb 11, 2007

GuitarHero2 said:
Good question, I guess because I'm curious about religion. I though consider myself more of a humanist more than an atheist(not that it matters, being that both beliefs are somewhat similar), in fact my icon is in the process of being changed, from atheist to humanist.

Ah, I see. Well, I hope we at the boards can help your curiosity!

Dannager · Feb 12, 2007

ravendta said:
I doubt a LOT of what "science" claims, but having not been involved in the studies myself, I can't say anything for sure.

Do you have a good reason to doubt the things that you do?

ravendta · Feb 12, 2007

Dannager said:
Do you have a good reason to doubt the things that you do?

Plenty of them, but I don't think this is the place for a science vs faith discussion. PM me if you wanna discuss it.

Theogonia · Feb 12, 2007

Just out of curiousity, what good reason could there possibly be to doubt science except that the bible doesn't mention it?

ravendta · Feb 12, 2007

ScottyL said:
Just out of curiousity, what good reason could there possibly be to doubt science except that the bible doesn't mention it?

It is human, and thus, flawed. 90% of it is based on CONCLUSIONS, rather than facts (Conclusions BASED on facts are STILL conclusions).

I have deeper reasons, more specific ones, but again, a video game thread is not the place. PM me if you want to continue this discussion.

Dannager · Feb 12, 2007

ravendta said:
It is human, and thus, flawed. 90% of it is based on CONCLUSIONS, rather than facts (Conclusions BASED on facts are STILL conclusions).

I have deeper reasons, more specific ones, but again, a video game thread is not the place. PM me if you want to continue this discussion.

Actually, I do sort of like discussions like this to be available for others to comment on. Is there a thread or forum somewhere else on this site you'd be willing to discuss the topic in?

RichardE · Feb 12, 2007

Yea, and anyway most threads here never stay on track lol.

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