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I guess for my next post, looking for some encouraging words of wisdom. I am disgusted I work for a place, and one of the biggest tech companies of the world, who prides itself on gay and trans junk. Showing the colors, sending out the pride emails. Makes it worse for me is that one of my coworkers is gay and she married her... wife. :sick: I thought my state recognizes one man/woman in union. Guess now it does not. :destroy:

So I am a Christian working in a place that supports, recognizes, accepts this type of sin. I do not. If I met a trans and knew their REAL gender, they be the REAL gender and I will call out at such. I do not take in their, "I identify as such, so you call me as I am" excuse because I too can pull that as saying, "I identify as a child of God who said ages ago how sinful you are living and how He created you to be who you were you meant to be, now as you want to be" line, but of course it be... well in truth I would say a lot more than that, HAHAHA.

FYI, I am not just anti-conformity to the "system" but I am also one know throughout the ages to disobey and not follow certain orders given to me because it goes against my nature, belief, or ethics and morals. Never been fired yet over them, but you never know with my mouth.

:dead:

So I am looking at how to hold my head up, or say what I should, even in front of them "higher ups" when they talk about how the company and "its people" are prideful in accepting the differences of society. All this when I know it is disgusting, wrong, unnatural, and plain out just mentally sick.

:argh:

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I guess for my next post, looking for some encouraging words of wisdom. I am disgusted I work for a place, and one of the biggest tech companies of the world, who prides itself on gay and trans junk. Showing the colors, sending out the pride emails. Makes it worse for me is that one of my coworkers is gay and she married her... wife. :sick: I thought my state recognizes one man/woman in union. Guess now it does not. :destroy:

So I am a Christian working in a place that supports, recognizes, accepts this type of sin. I do not. If I met a trans and knew their REAL gender, they be the REAL gender and I will call out at such. I do not take in their, "I identify as such, so you call me as I am" excuse because I too can pull that as saying, "I identify as a child of God who said ages ago how sinful you are living and how He created you to be who you were you meant to be, now as you want to be" line, but of course it be... well in truth I would say a lot more than that, HAHAHA.

FYI, I am not just anti-conformity to the "system" but I am also one know throughout the ages to disobey and not follow certain orders given to me because it goes against my nature, belief, or ethics and morals. Never been fired yet over them, but you never know with my mouth.

:dead:

So I am looking at how to hold my head up, or say what I should, even in front of them "higher ups" when they talk about how the company and "its people" are prideful in accepting the differences of society. All this when I know it is disgusting, wrong, unnatural, and plain out just mentally sick.

:argh:

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That's a difficult one for sure. I'm with you, I think we should call a spade a spade. It's hard when you're engulfed in it at your workplace.

The whole "pride" thing I never understood. Pardon my directness, but I don't throw a parade down main street every time I make love to my wife. I don't understand why they think it needs to be broadcast to the world, thrown in our faces. Pretty ridiculous when you think about it.

Homosexuality is a hard one for Christians to deal with, mainly because of that issue. I understand it's just a sin, like any other sin. I'm not out trying to crucify adulterers and thieves, so I won't go out on a vendetta against the queers either. However, THEY throw it in our faces continually, forcing a response. Thieves don't have parades, adulterers don't have pride organizations and rallies. But the homosexuals insist on doing that. So if you're a Christian in today's world, you pretty much have to have a pre-planned position on the issue, because you will be forced to address it at some point.

I'm so glad I was discharged from the military right before the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell." My unit began homosexual sensitivity training in the months after I left. I wouldn't have made it through.

You're in for a rough time for sure, but it appears you already know that. Sounds like that place is over the top. I wish I had better advice for you right now, but all I can think of at the moment...just pray that the Lord opens a new door for you.
 
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Consider the following:

I Corinthians 5:9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”


We are called to judge within the church. We are not to judge without the church. Your co-workers will benefit from you if they see you as a person who cares for them, responds in a loving fashion to them and reflects the love of Christ. We should not withdraw fellowship from them. We should not expect those who are not Christian to understand our values, as they have no basis to do so. That does not mean you agree with their thinking, or agree with their values. It means that we look at them as Christ does, as people He created and people He died for.

The Corinthian church was made up of many sinners who came to know Christ:

I Cor. 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.


How did Paul approach them?


I Cor 2:2 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimonya of God. 2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

Do not loathe, or fear or do battle against your co-workers. If any ask you, tell them of your faith in Christ and what He has done for you, and the reason for the hope that you have in Him. Pray for them. Ask God to direct you and speak through you. He draws people to Him.
 
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I guess for my next post, looking for some encouraging words of wisdom. I am disgusted I work for a place, and one of the biggest tech companies of the world, who prides itself on gay and trans junk. Showing the colors, sending out the pride emails. Makes it worse for me is that one of my coworkers is gay and she married her... wife. :sick: I thought my state recognizes one man/woman in union. Guess now it does not. :destroy:

So I am a Christian working in a place that supports, recognizes, accepts this type of sin. I do not. If I met a trans and knew their REAL gender, they be the REAL gender and I will call out at such. I do not take in their, "I identify as such, so you call me as I am" excuse because I too can pull that as saying, "I identify as a child of God who said ages ago how sinful you are living and how He created you to be who you were you meant to be, now as you want to be" line, but of course it be... well in truth I would say a lot more than that, HAHAHA.

FYI, I am not just anti-conformity to the "system" but I am also one know throughout the ages to disobey and not follow certain orders given to me because it goes against my nature, belief, or ethics and morals. Never been fired yet over them, but you never know with my mouth.

:dead:

So I am looking at how to hold my head up, or say what I should, even in front of them "higher ups" when they talk about how the company and "its people" are prideful in accepting the differences of society. All this when I know it is disgusting, wrong, unnatural, and plain out just mentally sick.

:argh:

These smiley things fun....
The most powerful thing about you as a Christian in a workplace like that is to shine for Christ in the way you work and interact with your workmates. If you radiate love, peace, joy, gentleness, kindness, faithfulness (to your employer), goodness, patience and self control, then you will shine as a light to them without you having to lecture them about Christ or their sins. You may not realise it, but as a Christian, those unbelievers are observing you very closely to see if your life matches your profession of Christianity.

It is one thing working in a comfortable cocoon with other believers, but your Christian faith will prove itself when you find yourself in a situation where you are surrounded by evil, yet are shining like a light in the darkness. In Revelation, Jesus talks about people who are maintaining their faith right next to the seat of Satan! That's about a close as they can get to evil, and yet their faithfulness to God is shining like a beacon for good.

Jesus became a friend to the tax collectors, sinners, and prostitutes. He mixed freely with them. The religious folk criticised Him for it, and He said that He has not come to save the righteous, but the unrighteous and sinner. A doctor has not come to cure healthy people, but to cure those who are sick. We can be friends to sinners, but not friends of their sin. I can talk to a transvestite on the street and be a friend to him, but that doesn't mean that I have to be a transvestite as well.

I suggest to you that your struggle in your workplace is because you need to be more sure of your own faith. This can only come through prayer, study of God's Word, and growth in grace. When you know where you stand with Christ, you can go into Hell itself and mix with demons, and not have your own faith threatened.

Also, you are being paid by your employer to do a job of work. This means that you need to be totally faithful to your employer and do the job as best as you can. The workplace is not for evangelism, or discussing sin, righteousness and judgment with your unbelieving workmates. It is a place where you do your job well, and through the goodness of your conduct toward all, and the acts of kindness you do for your workmates, your faith will have an impression on them. It is not what you say to them, because words are cheap, but it is what you do in relation to your job and how you relate to your workmates. Success in the job does not always depend on technical expertise, but how you relate to your boss and workmates.

Even those fellow workers make a big deal of their sinful lifestyles, they will respect your goodness and will not put you down for being a decent, godly human being. But they will give you a hard time and be disrespectful to you if you continue to Bible bash them. Save your preaching for the church meetings and street evangelism because that is where it belongs.

Do your job well, do more than expected of you. Volunteer for overtime when no one else will. Do the garbage jobs that others don't to do. Buy morning coffee/tea refreshments for your workmates. Visit sick workmates in hospital. Be prepared to give assistance to anyone, even though it inconveniences you. When you supervisor rebukes you because you made an error, take it in humility and not argue back. Behave as if you have no rights, and be a slave for Christ. Don't moan about the management, treat your boss as if he or she is the best boss you have ever worked with (even if you don't believe it). That is not lying; it is strategy to show that you are the best employee that boss has ever had. That is being a powerful Christian in the workplace. If you conduct yourself in that way, keep your mouth shut when tempted to preach to them, be brief and to the point when answering questions about Christianity (which will come if they see that you are different from the others), without allowing those conversations to interfere with your work.

If you observe those principles, you will be surprised at how the workplace will change for you. You will also be surprised at the greatest respect your workmates will have for you, and how satisfying your job will become. And don't be surprised if the boss comes along and offers promotion at some future stage.

There is a good book that has helped me. It is called "Conduct Expected". This shows how to conduct yourself as an employee in the workplace. Here is the Amazon link:
https://www.amazon.com/Conduct-Expected-Century-William-Lareau/dp/0832905143
 
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I guess for my next post, looking for some encouraging words of wisdom. I am disgusted I work for a place, and one of the biggest tech companies of the world, who prides itself on gay and trans junk. Showing the colors, sending out the pride emails. Makes it worse for me is that one of my coworkers is gay and she married her... wife. :sick: I thought my state recognizes one man/woman in union. Guess now it does not. :destroy:

*It does recognize that and much more as you know....I just checked.

So I am a Christian working in a place that supports, recognizes, accepts this type of sin. I do not. If I met a trans and knew their REAL gender, they be the REAL gender and I will call out at such. I do not take in their, "I identify as such, so you call me as I am" excuse because I too can pull that as saying, "I identify as a child of God who said ages ago how sinful you are living and how He created you to be who you were you meant to be, now as you want to be" line, but of course it be... well in truth I would say a lot more than that, HAHAHA.

FYI, I am not just anti-conformity to the "system" but I am also one know throughout the ages to disobey and not follow certain orders given to me because it goes against my nature, belief, or ethics and morals. Never been fired yet over them, but you never know with my mouth.

:dead:

So I am looking at how to hold my head up, or say what I should, even in front of them "higher ups" when they talk about how the company and "its people" are prideful in accepting the differences of society. All this when I know it is disgusting, wrong, unnatural, and plain out just mentally sick.

:argh:

These smiley things fun....


Our first job is being one of the Lord's Ambassadors...being a Light in this
dark world or place of employment...we show them Jesus by our words, actions and conduct.
Too many believers find it all too easy to jump on someone else who be in sin even though they ain't upholding biblical standards in they lives...it shouldn't be like that.
Remember to judge rightly and to administer mercy, just like you'd want someone
to do that with you.

 
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I can understand this, but they love, time to time, to have people all over the company join in for "mandatory" bits and that would include everyone being in a picture for "gay pride" junk since they support it, they want everyone else to. I never participated in it, but politics in the company always changing so who knows next round they will try again. The thing is, I would absolutely risk my job for my faith, even if it means being homeless (since one miss paycheck will result in that).
Do i worry about them doing another such mandatory participation? Sometimes.

Also, you are being paid by your employer to do a job of work. This means that you need to be totally faithful to your employer and do the job as best as you can. The workplace is not for evangelism, or discussing sin, righteousness and judgment with your unbelieving workmates. It is a place where you do your job well, and through the goodness of your conduct toward all, and the acts of kindness you do for your workmates, your faith will have an impression on them. It is not what you say to them, because words are cheap, but it is what you do in relation to your job and how you relate to your workmates. Success in the job does not always depend on technical expertise, but how you relate to your boss and workmates.
 
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I can understand this, but they love, time to time, to have people all over the company join in for "mandatory" bits and that would include everyone being in a picture for "gay pride" junk since they support it, they want everyone else to. I never participated in it, but politics in the company always changing so who knows next round they will try again. The thing is, I would absolutely risk my job for my faith, even if it means being homeless (since one miss paycheck will result in that).
Do i worry about them doing another such mandatory participation? Sometimes.
If it is not in your job description to support the gay pride "junk" or be involved in it, then there is no obligation for you to do so. Being separate from the world involves not joining in with their sin, not working alongside them and respecting them as people. If the management is putting your job at risk because you choose not to involve yourself in the "gay pride" activities, you have the right to consult with an employment lawyer because you have the right to do your job without that unnecessary stress. You are not being clear about whether it is the management or not who are "loving" to have people join in with the gay oriented activities. If it is management, and some are bullying you over it, then you also have the right to consult an employment lawyer to investigate workplace bullying.

If it is not management but others in your workplace, you have the right to make a written complaint to the management that the pressure and bullying from some in your workplace are interfering with your work performance and you would like them to take action, and you are intending to seek legal advice about the bullying that you are experiencing on the job. I reckon that management will take a professional attitude toward you and treat you with respect. If they don't, make sure you get a very large compensation settlement, with the help of your lawyer to give you time to find a position where you can use your abilities and do your job without that kind of stress.

There are some employment lawyers who will not charge you legal fees unless they win the case for you and get a reasonable financial settlement. My daughter used a lawyer for an issue she had with an employer, and she not only got a good settlement but the agreement was that the employer paid her legal fees as well.
 
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I've never worked in a "godly workplace." I hope my church is a godly workplace. I read about a godly workplace when I read "The Hiding Place." But the fact is, they are few and far between.

Given the example Jesus gave us of interacting with sinners, I think you shouldn't make a big deal out of it. If you are asked to say, write something in blatant support of gay pride, then I'd say gently refuse. Don't give them an excuse to claim that you are using your religion to create a hostile work environment for them. That's not what you need, or what the church needs. Rather, if you leave them alone and they leave you alone, keep it that way. If somebody goes on the offensive and harasses you because of your religion, and not because of anything inappropriate that you have said or done, then report that.
 
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Oh, you have no idea. Most of these big companies do it. And when I say big, chances are more than half of you probably own/work on their hardware.

:swoon::eek:
I doubt you can name the company...but can you tell us what industry it is? What type of business? (If you already did, sorry, I missed it). Doesn't really matter, just curious.
 
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I guess for my next post, looking for some encouraging words of wisdom. I am disgusted I work for a place, and one of the biggest tech companies of the world, who prides itself on gay and trans junk. Showing the colors, sending out the pride emails. Makes it worse for me is that one of my coworkers is gay and she married her... wife. :sick: I thought my state recognizes one man/woman in union. Guess now it does not. :destroy:

So I am a Christian working in a place that supports, recognizes, accepts this type of sin. I do not. If I met a trans and knew their REAL gender, they be the REAL gender and I will call out at such. I do not take in their, "I identify as such, so you call me as I am" excuse because I too can pull that as saying, "I identify as a child of God who said ages ago how sinful you are living and how He created you to be who you were you meant to be, now as you want to be" line, but of course it be... well in truth I would say a lot more than that, HAHAHA.

FYI, I am not just anti-conformity to the "system" but I am also one know throughout the ages to disobey and not follow certain orders given to me because it goes against my nature, belief, or ethics and morals. Never been fired yet over them, but you never know with my mouth.

:dead:

So I am looking at how to hold my head up, or say what I should, even in front of them "higher ups" when they talk about how the company and "its people" are prideful in accepting the differences of society. All this when I know it is disgusting, wrong, unnatural, and plain out just mentally sick.

:argh:

These smiley things fun....

I have dealt with many people that I found that their private lives were utterly repulsive.

The key for you is to follow the example of Jesus. When you look at how Jesus dealt with people, who did he yell out? Who did Jesus say were sons of snakes, and who did he attack with whips?

It was the believers. It was the people who claimed to know the truth, and be good religious followers of G-d.

Jesus never got angry with the pagans, even though they did crazy things. Jesus got angry at the religious people, over turning the money changers in the Temple, and saying they had made the Temple into a den of thieves.

You need to follow that example. Stop expecting the pagans to be like Christians. They are not Christians. They don't know right from wrong. They don't know what they are doing is evil.

Remember Jonah and Nineveh. Jonah walked through the city and was appalled by what he saw, so much so he wanted G-d to destroy them. And what did G-d say? "should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left"?

In other words, those people couldn't find their own butts with both hands. They were ignorant.

The company you work for is filled with people... ignorant people, who don't know what they are doing.

It's not your job to sit around angry about their ignorance, like Jonah. Just ignore the emails, ignore the crazy people, and do your job as G-d would want you. Be the guy that never has anything bad to say, and live out what G-d would want you to.
 
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