Words of Wisdom

[Zaac]

Here is some very sagely advice for all in this forum. Thank you Mercy for summing things up!!!




1) What are the gay-proponents (who claim to be Christian) doing to the body of Christ? They do not believe it is sin, but they try to draw the church body back into addictions. Some of our brothers and sisters in Christ are now in recovery and they are valiantly fighting for their families, their marriages, and even their own lives (like D'Magoh). Yes, any addiction can ultimately kill a person. Why would any Christian re-open the door to the ultimate demise of one of their brothers or sisters? This is unthinkable.

Please, think about what you are doing to the body of Christ.

2) Anyone that has had more than one sex partner was not committed to at least one of them. Hence, by anyone's definition they are fornicators. This is true regardless of whether they are committed now, regardless of whether they are married now, or how long they have been in their current relationship, and regardless of their view on sin. The bible states in very clear terms that repentance is required, and that no fornicator will enter the kingdom of god. The vast majority of gays and lesbians fall in this category, and they need to repent in order to go to heaven. Nobody should let their own self-defense keep them out of heaven if they are interested in salvation.

3) Regardless of what anyone believes regarding sin, we know that our God is not the author of confusion. I can not trust a god that says same-sex-sodomy is ok and fine on the one hand, and a sin worthy of death on the other. There are many many Christians that feel this is ultimately an attack on the authority of the scriptures themselves. We can not accept both views. We have a right to what we believe upon reading the scriptures ourselves, regardless of whether someone else thinks it is wrong. I give Calvinists the same respect, though I do not agree with their doctrine. Their doctrine is what they beleive and they have a right to believe it. Unfortunately the gay-affirming crowd does not show the same tolerance of the faith that others have in the bible and in Jesus, and hence they fail to show spirtual unity in the only thing that matters which is the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

 

[lincolngreen50]

Here is some very sagely advice for all in this forum. Thank you Mercy for summing things up!!!




1) What are the gay-proponents (who claim to be Christian) doing to the body of Christ? They do not believe it is sin, but they try to draw the church body back into addictions. Some of our brothers and sisters in Christ are now in recovery and they are valiantly fighting for their families, their marriages, and even their own lives (like D'Magoh). Yes, any addiction can ultimately kill a person. Why would any Christian re-open the door to the ultimate demise of one of their brothers or sisters? This is unthinkable.

Please, think about what you are doing to the body of Christ.

2) Anyone that has had more than one sex partner was not committed to at least one of them. Hence, by anyone's definition they are fornicators. This is true regardless of whether they are committed now, regardless of whether they are married now, or how long they have been in their current relationship, and regardless of their view on sin. The bible states in very clear terms that repentance is required, and that no fornicator will enter the kingdom of god. The vast majority of gays and lesbians fall in this category, and they need to repent in order to go to heaven. Nobody should let their own self-defense keep them out of heaven if they are interested in salvation.

3) Regardless of what anyone believes regarding sin, we know that our God is not the author of confusion. I can not trust a god that says same-sex-sodomy is ok and fine on the one hand, and a sin worthy of death on the other. There are many many Christians that feel this is ultimately an attack on the authority of the scriptures themselves. We can not accept both views. We have a right to what we believe upon reading the scriptures ourselves, regardless of whether someone else thinks it is wrong. I give Calvinists the same respect, though I do not agree with their doctrine. Their doctrine is what they beleive and they have a right to believe it. Unfortunately the gay-affirming crowd does not show the same tolerance of the faith that others have in the bible and in Jesus, and hence they fail to show spirtual unity in the only thing that matters which is the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

What you have just said needed to be said.I try to follow Gods Word literally and try to tell people about the truth of Gods Word.
Satans plan to conquor and divide the body of Christ is a wake up call for all that believe in the Word of the Lord.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

I have just figured out something. Because we are imperfect, incapable of pure judgment, we all have some sin we commit that we don't realize and therefore don't repent of. Or maybe that we do realize but don't think of as a sin. We all have them. Yet we all still manage to do God's good works. Our sins do not keep us from doing God's works. If they did, we'd never get anything done.

God has said, our sins do not keep us from heaven. Our denial of Christ do, but no one here denies Christ. I still assert that homosexuality isn't wrong, but even in the event I am wrong, which I might be, I don't think God will hold that against me any more than He'll hold yours, or MercyBursts, or anyone else. This is why I know we'll all be judged equally, because we are all equal in our sin.

 

[naotmaa]

Here is some very sagely advice for all in this forum. Thank you Mercy for summing things up!!!

1) What are the gay-proponents (who claim to be Christian) doing to the body of Christ? They do not believe it is sin, but they try to draw the church body back into addictions. Some of our brothers and sisters in Christ are now in recovery and they are valiantly fighting for their families, their marriages, and even their own lives (like D'Magoh). Yes, any addiction can ultimately kill a person. Why would any Christian re-open the door to the ultimate demise of one of their brothers or sisters? This is unthinkable.

Firstly homosexuality is not an addiction.
Secondly, I don't see anyone actively trying to make people do something they don't want to.

Please, think about what you are doing to the body of Christ.

2) Anyone that has had more than one sex partner was not committed to at least one of them. Hence, by anyone's definition they are fornicators. This is true regardless of whether they are committed now, regardless of whether they are married now, or how long they have been in their current relationship, and regardless of their view on sin. The bible states in very clear terms that repentance is required, and that no fornicator will enter the kingdom of god. The vast majority of gays and lesbians fall in this category, and they need to repent in order to go to heaven. Nobody should let their own self-defense keep them out of heaven if they are interested in salvation.

The vast majority of people have done this regardless of sexual orientation. So why single out the gays?

3) Regardless of what anyone believes regarding sin, we know that our God is not the author of confusion. I can not trust a god that says same-sex-sodomy is ok and fine on the one hand, and a sin worthy of death on the other. There are many many Christians that feel this is ultimately an attack on the authority of the scriptures themselves. We can not accept both views. We have a right to what we believe upon reading the scriptures ourselves, regardless of whether someone else thinks it is wrong. I give Calvinists the same respect, though I do not agree with their doctrine. Their doctrine is what they beleive and they have a right to believe it. Unfortunately the gay-affirming crowd does not show the same tolerance of the faith that others have in the bible and in Jesus, and hence they fail to show spirtual unity in the only thing that matters which is the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

I have seen countless of people on these forums accuse Christians on these forums of not really being christian because they believed homosexuality was a sin. That doesn't show spiritual unity either.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Some of us are here to pour God's love and light into the darkness.

If you are serving Christ in your neighbor, and respecting the dignity of every human being, you already know that the false and bankrupt claims of the original post only lead to a place that needs more light and more love.

Brothers and sisters, it's time to pour on the love here.

 

[dayhiker]

I agree, love is what fulfills the law ... Love is the greatest ....

 

[lincolngreen50]

I have just figured out something. Because we are imperfect, incapable of pure judgment, we all have some sin we commit that we don't realize and therefore don't repent of. Or maybe that we do realize but don't think of as a sin. We all have them. Yet we all still manage to do God's good works. Our sins do not keep us from doing God's works. If they did, we'd never get anything done.

God has said, our sins do not keep us from heaven. Our denial of Christ do, but no one here denies Christ. I still assert that homosexuality isn't wrong, but even in the event I am wrong, which I might be, I don't think God will hold that against me any more than He'll hold yours, or MercyBursts, or anyone else. This is why I know we'll all be judged equally, because we are all equal in our sin.

Sin seperates one from Jesus Christ

 

[davedjy]

1) What are the gay-proponents (who claim to be Christian) doing to the body of Christ?

That point is very much like the pot calling the kettle black. Telling gays and lesbians they are not saved, not Christians, or are going to hell isn't conducive "to the Body of Christ" either.

 

[Zaac]

Some of us are here to pour God's love and light into the darkness.

If you are serving Christ in your neighbor, and respecting the dignity of every human being, you already know that the false and bankrupt claims of the original post only lead to a place that needs more light and more love.

Brothers and sisters, it's time to pour on the love here.

Some of you need to do a Bible study about love and what God says about love and disobedience.

 

[Zaac]

That point is very much like the pot calling the kettle black. Telling gays and lesbians they are not saved, not Christians, or are going to hell isn't conducive "to the Body of Christ" either.

Exactly where in that first point was it said that a gay person wasn't saved or not a Christian?

Some of yall just get too gay in your need to be put down that you start creating stuff just so that you can justify reporting the post as a flame.

Maybe we should report you for insinuating that there is something wrong with the kettle being black.

 

[lincolngreen50]

Some of us are here to pour God's love and light into the darkness.

If you are serving Christ in your neighbor, and respecting the dignity of every human being, you already know that the false and bankrupt claims of the original post only lead to a place that needs more light and more love.

Brothers and sisters, it's time to pour on the love here.

Jesus is not going to return to dish out love,he is going to judge those who have sinned and do not believe in the Word of God.
Even those who believe in Christ but never lived up to his Word will not be raptured and will face great tribulation
Those who take the mark of the beast will be dead in Christ forever.
Christ will return and smite the wicked and proclaim is Kingdom.In other words kill the wicked.
Matt 7:21-23 Not everyone who says Lord Lord ,shall enter the kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in Heaven.
Many will say to Me in that day,Lord lord have we not prophesised in Your Name, cast out demons in Your name and done many wonders in your name and then I will declare to them, I never knew you, depart from Me.
You who practised lawlessness
Rev5:5......Behold the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David....

Remember Sodom and Gomorrah.Only 4 people were saved by God(only 3 survived because Lots wife looked back and disobeyed God out of hundeds of sinners in the two Cities.

Remember the Great Flood.
Only Noah and his immediate family totalling 8 people were saved out of the total people on earth.
This must tell us all that when Christ returns only a very few are going to be saved.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Jesus is not going to return to dish out love,he is going to judge those who have sinned and do not believe in the Word of God.
Even those who believe in Christ but never lived up to his Word will not be raptured and will face great tribulation
Those who take the mark of the beast will be dead in Christ forever.
Christ will return and smite the wicked and proclaim is Kingdom.In other words kill the wicked.
Matt 7:21-23 Not everyone who says Lord Lord ,shall enter the kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in Heaven.
Many will say to Me in that day,Lord lord have we not prophesised in Your Name, cast out demons in Your name and done many wonders in your name and then I will declare to them, I never knew you, depart from Me.
You who practised lawlessness
Rev5:5......Behold the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David....

Remember Sodom and Gomorrah.Only 4 people were saved by God(only 3 survived because Lots wife looked back and disobeyed God out of hundeds of sinners in the two Cities.

Remember the Great Flood.
Only Noah and his immediate family totalling 8 people were saved out of the total people on earth.
This must tell us all that when Christ returns only a very few are going to be saved.

Who is your neighbor?

 

[lincolngreen50]

Who is your neighbor?
Your missing the point Jesus loves a sinner but He hates sin.
Those who repent of their sin and follow the Word of the Lord will be saved.
Those who say that they follow but continue to sin will feel the wrath of Christ when he returns.
If one loves thy neighbour one will not break the Lords commandments and laws.
For example,one will not lie with a man as he would with a woman.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Who is your neighbor?
Your missing the point Jesus loves a sinner but He hates sin.
Those who repent of their sin and follow the Word of the Lord will be saved.
Those who say that they follow but continue to sin will feel the wrath of Christ when he returns.
If one loves thy neighbour one will not break the Lords commandments and laws.
For example,one will not lie with a man as he would with a woman.

There is only one point:

Who is your neighbor?

 

[Apollo Celestio]

Jesus is not going to return to dish out love,he is going to judge those who have sinned and do not believe in the Word of God.
Even those who believe in Christ but never lived up to his Word will not be raptured and will face great tribulation
Those who take the mark of the beast will be dead in Christ forever.
Christ will return and smite the wicked and proclaim is Kingdom.In other words kill the wicked.
Matt 7:21-23 Not everyone who says Lord Lord ,shall enter the kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in Heaven.
Many will say to Me in that day,Lord lord have we not prophesised in Your Name, cast out demons in Your name and done many wonders in your name and then I will declare to them, I never knew you, depart from Me.
You who practised lawlessness
Rev5:5......Behold the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David....

Remember Sodom and Gomorrah.Only 4 people were saved by God(only 3 survived because Lots wife looked back and disobeyed God out of hundeds of sinners in the two Cities.

Remember the Great Flood.
Only Noah and his immediate family totalling 8 people were saved out of the total people on earth.
This must tell us all that when Christ returns only a very few are going to be saved.

You're not going to say 144,000 are you? (j/k)
We are no longer sinners, but we are not without sin. ><;

 

[Zaac]

There is only one point:

Who is your neighbor?

The point is that if my neighbor is rejecting God's Word and living in unrepentant sin, because I love my neighbor as I love myself and don't want him mired in that which leads to death and destruction, I must correct him and givev him God's Truth that will hopefully lead him into repentance.

So to all my homosexual fornicating neighbors who I love dearly along with my heterosexual fornicating neighbors, confess and repent of your sin. Go and sin no more.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

The point is that if my neighbor is rejecting God's Word and living in unrepentant sin, because I love my neighbor as I love myself and don't want him mired in that which leads to death and destruction, I must correct him and givev him God's Truth that will hopefully lead him into repentance.

So to all my homosexual fornicating neighbors who I love dearly along with my heterosexual fornicating neighbors, confess and repent of your sin. Go and sin no more.

Or maybe the point is my neighbor has a plank in his eye and is completely unable and unqualified to judge others.

Let God be judge and embrace the light of God's love.

 

[Zaac]

Or maybe the point is my neighbor has a plank in his eye and is completely unable and unqualified to judge others.

If your neighbor is fornicating just like you if you're fornicating, Biblically ain't a thing that your neighbor needs to be saying to you about fornication until he stops.

Let God be judge and embrace the light of God's love.

Contrary to what you believe God has called us to judge. 1 Corinthians 2:15
The spiritual man makes judgments about all things...

And neither you nor anyone else gets a free pass just because you start dishing out Joel Osteen style gushyness.

That love you speak of has a wrath that accompanies it.