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Please show how compassion needs suffering to exist?The fact is compassion is experienced only where there is suffering.
I didn't mean to imply that compassion needs suffering to exist. The context is more like I wouldn't appreciate a flashlight in the noon day sun. Or food is appreciated more by a starving person than one with a full belly. I therefore said compassion is "experienced" only where there is suffering.Please show how compassion needs suffering to exist?
Thank you for these appropriate scriptures. Some people do not think it applies to everyone, but I think Paul makes it clear that it does in Romans 2:119 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. (Rom 1, NIV)
Have you thought of leaving? Maybe western society is not for you?
As the answer to the question seems ‘none’ your opinion isn’t important.
Thank you for these appropriate scriptures. Some people do not think it applies to everyone, but I think Paul makes it clear that it does in Romans 2:1
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
Hey OP. Do you mind my asking if you are a Western ex-pat? As you seem to have a vested interest in these issues. Don’t get me wrong, I feel strongly about them myself. But I believe a lot of the non-Western world e.g. Malaysia where you are just laugh at a lot of our nonsense. Iow I believe they are wise enough to discern and reject the absurdities being pushed.
To paraphrase the Jewish saying, man makes his plans and God laughs. Probably more healthy for us in the long run to follow his example when it comes to these matters. After all no one save his son is going to change the world in the end. Not the righteous, and definitely not the “woke,” whichever hemisphere they may reside in.
God will judge fairly and to think it's up to us is not trusting that He's got this.Sure, @childeye 2, and I agree. Because everyone can see God at work in the world and know his ways and what he requires, the consensus according to scripture is that He can fairly judge those who haven’t heard the gospel.
Thanks for this post. I think it's confirmed that you're hearing propaganda. I believe your anger comes because you want goodness to succeed. Don't believe the propaganda. We all know what male/female means here. It's just that geopolitically there is currently a battle of words between Democracy/Autocracy and the lies are everywhere beginning with the rise of the global internet and social media in the mid 90's and it has caused some division. I see it as a Spiritual war that must happen, but ultimately God is in control. People here are still learning how to separate the lies from the Truth, but God willing we will humble ourselves and get a handle on it.I'm a Malaysian ethnic Chinese. Born and grew up in Malaysia. I don't have vested interest as per say but rather a feeling of anger. I don't want this insanity to creep into my part of the world. I live in a semi-free nation. I like to make my country transition into a free and liberal nation like the west in the early 90s. But it is not an easy job as a lot of the more conservative elements of my country are very resistant to it.
The woke west is like the golden bullet they have to keep people like me from liberalizing the nation. All they need to do is to point out that in 20 years after going liberal we will end up like the insanity of the woke west. It is so easy to frighten the moderates. Moderates in my country are also quite religious. Here we don't hate religion like the west. We balance the teachings and secular live.
And the conservatives here have a point. Even I don't want my nation to turn into the woke west. Full of absurdity like ideological science, language policing and social engineering.
The danger here is that a lot of people are starting to warm up to authoritarian nations like Russia and China. People are more impressed by the achievements of China/Russia than the West in collective. It wouldn't be too long that they will accept even the model of government. With the west in societal chaos and the growth of authoritarian nations, it will pose an existential threat of our democratic way of live.
You wouldn’t appreciate it because you would not need it. That definition of compassion is unnecessary if there is no suffering.I didn't mean to imply that compassion needs suffering to exist. The context is more like I wouldn't appreciate a flashlight in the noon day sun. Or food is appreciated more by a starving person than one with a full belly. I therefore said compassion is "experienced" only where there is suffering.
compassion
noun
com·pas·sion kəm-ˈpa-shən
Synonyms of compassion
: sympathetic consciousness of others' distress together with a desire to alleviate it
Not true. If one has education and training in a scientific discipline one’s opinion has a greater weight than one who does not have that background.Neither is anyone's opinion here if you like to play this game.
Not so. It is the opinion or view that is challenged, not the person. That verges towards the ad hom.People who keep asking for accreditations only do so because they want to invalid the person not the merit of his opinion or view.
I was once young and in my prime, and now I am old and on the decline. How true it is that we don't know what we've got till it's gone.You wouldn’t appreciate it because you would not need it. That definition of compassion is unnecessary if there is no suffering.
I see nothing wrong with showing concern about propaganda influencing a society.I find it delightfully ironic that a thread bemoaning an alleged deterioration of objectivity, rationality, and empiricism in the sciences practiced in “the West” uses absolutely no objective, rational, empirical evidence to support its claims. Instead all we’re getting is half-baked analogies, loaded language, and a bunch of Bible verses in support of a thesis from people who purport to value rigorous observation and analysis. Says everything I need to know, honestly.
Then why did he create it in an easily eatable form, within easy reach and then let one of his creations suggest that it be eaten?For me it brings to mind the telling of how God didn't want mankind to eat from the knowledge of good and evil.
To me it indicates that everything Holy/Eternal is built on a trustworthy image of God, and therefore God warned Adam but did not fence it off.Then why did he create it in an easily eatable form, within easy reach and then let one of his creations suggest that it be eaten?
Sure. So far the only evidence is in favor of OP falling victim to it.I see nothing wrong with showing concern about propaganda influencing a society.
I think you miss the point that they use education to manipulate public opinion. This is known as propaganda and can take many forms, including textbooks, curriculum, and classroom materials that are designed to shape the way students view the world and to reinforce certain beliefs and values.Maybe western society is not for you?
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