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WMDs found!

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The mainstream media misreports Kay reportCommentary by Steve Gill
October 13, 2003
Amidst the media frenzy last week over Rush Limbaugh’s comments concerning Eagles’ quarterback Donovan McNabb there was some “real” news that was overlooked, or maybe even buried, by the mainstream media. Top U.S. weapons inspector David Kay revealed in an interim report that Saddam Hussein WAS a threat and DID have an active weapons-of-mass-destruction program. Unfortunately, most of the media were too busy tittering over Rush to actually read the report.

The New York Times headlined their story: “No Illicit Arms Found In Iraq,” while The Washington Post trumpeted their own version with: “Search in Iraq Finds No Banned Weapons.” Neither headline accurately presents the truth about the Kay report; nor did hundreds of equally inaccurate headlines just like them across the country.

So what did Kay actually report? “We have discovered dozens of WMD-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment concealed from the United Nations during the inspections that began in late 2002,” Kay told Congress last week. In other words, Saddam lied about his ongoing weapons programs and attempted to conceal the programs and weapons from U.N. inspectors.

Despite Saddam’s efforts to hide the evidence or destroy it, Kay’s inspectors have found a great deal, including:

• “A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses … that contained equipment … suitable for continuing [chemical and biological weapons] research.”

• A prison lab that was “possibly used in human testing” of biological weapons.

• “Reference strains of biological organisms, one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.” The vial of botulinum bacteria referenced by Kay was found at the home of an Iraqi scientist where it was stored for safekeeping. The Center for Civilian Bio-defense Strategies at Johns Hopkins University says it is “the single most poisonous substance known.”

• Hidden documents and equipment, useful for enriching uranium for nukes.

• ”Plans and advanced design work for [prohibited] long-range missiles.”

They also found reports by Iraqi scientists of development of a production line that “could produce anthrax in one week if the seed stock were available” and research efforts on bio-weapons applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever, as well as continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin.

The efforts to conceal these and other weapons programs continued, according to Kay, “even beyond the end of Operation Iraqi Freedom.” At this point, 120 out of 130 known Iraqi “Ammunition Storage Points” remain unsearched by inspectors, so much more is likely to be found in the next several months.

Contrary to media reports that nothing has been — or will be — found, Kay himself says that more will indeed be found in the coming months and that there is evidence of a plan to move some of the weapons from Iraq to neighboring countries in the months preceding the war. In fact, just last week newspapers in Kuwait reported foiling an attempt to smuggle chemical weapons and biological warheads from Iraq to Europe through Kuwait. More details should emerge shortly.

There is no real doubt that Saddam Hussein had prohibited weapons. What remains to be determined is whether he destroyed them, has hidden them very well, or slipped them out of the country to others. In view of the third possibility, the fact that we have not yet found a “smoking gun” should not be of much comfort — even to the most adamant critics of the Bush Administration.

Bottom line? The Kay report reveals much more than the mainstream media has reported, and Americans interested in the truth will need to read the report for themselves. But perhaps a more important issue is why has the mainstream media buried the true story?
 

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jeffthefinn said:
Wanting WMD and having are two different things, grasp at straws, let's face it Bush lied when he brought the USA into this unwanted war.
Jeff the Finn
He didn't lie, he just gambled on sketchy evidence and came up short.
 
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I think I saw this reported on every media outlet when it came out just as it is said here with words like possible, could have, plans, etc.

Everything would seem to be a possibility in the future and does not seem to be anything that further inspections, sanctions, and monitoring would not have prevented.

Which one of these finding represents the immenent threat (as close as 45 minutes from deployment) that we heard about leading up to the war?
 
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let's see what a conservative news source has to say about the Kay report:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98974,00.html

Weapons hunters have uncovered no actual weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. "We have not yet found stocks of weapons, but we are not yet at the point where we can say definitively either that such weapon stocks do not exist, or that they existed before the war and our only task is to find where they have gone," Kay said. "We have discovered dozens of WMD-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nationshe inspections that began in late 2002."

what's your point again?
 
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Lots of "plans" to build bioweapons, labs that could be used to make CB weaponry, possibly, and more evidence that they "had the capacity" to make weapons. No weapons yet though.

P.S. A high school lab could probably produce anthrax pretty quickly if they were given seed stock. Bacteria are easy to make, you just need to feed them.
 
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ThePhoenix said:
Lots of "plans" to build bioweapons, labs that could be used to make CB weaponry, possibly, and more evidence that they "had the capacity" to make weapons. No weapons yet though.

P.S. A high school lab could probably produce anthrax pretty quickly if they were given seed stock. Bacteria are easy to make, you just need to feed them.
True.

Also, there's nothing that said that they weren't allowed to have the capacity, they just weren't allowed to produce them. My college library has books on making nukes, it's not like it's secret hard to get knowledge.

Any semi-modern country has the capacity to make WMDs.
 
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jeffthefinn said:
Wanting WMD and having are two different things, grasp at straws, let's face it Bush lied when he brought the USA into this unwanted war.
Jeff the Finn
I turned on my dusty TV last night to watch Star Trek: Enterprise at 7pm but I found out that it was going to be on at 8pm. It was not in the exact location/time that I thought so did I lie?

As for this war, it is well documented that Bush had overwhelming support by a vast amount of government officials (Democrats as well) as well as the people of the United States who still support him even though the media is desperately trying to undermine this perspective. I have the Democrats quotes at one of my home pages in fact.
 
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Oops! The lies pile up! Enterprise was on Sunday night, not last night… I’ll blame that on the lack of coffee in my system. Coffee: the true truth detector. Go ahead, send the UN inspectors to locate my coffee bean stash, they’ll never find it!


Yen, it may have been Bush’s final decision to go in but most everyone agreed and supported the action. We all had basically the same information as he did. Iraq was a clear and present danger that threatened the safety of the United States. We shut down his terrorist training camps and sent his WMD’s heading for the boarder and or underground (thx to French engineers). Also in the mix of all this mayhem, we freed a lot of people from under a ruthless dictator and they really do appreciate it even though you see differently from the media.

Even though I often disagree with the action of war or peacekeeping (such as with Yugoslavia), I still fully support the actions we took in Iraq. I still support gesturing the bird at the UN as we did. And if I knew then what I know now concerning our ending of the decade old war with Iraq (Sadams view) as we just did, then I’d support it just the same, if not more so.
 
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Durelen said:
Yen, it may have been Bush’s final decision to go in but most everyone agreed and supported the action. We all had basically the same information as he did. Iraq was a clear and present danger that threatened the safety of the United States.
And now, can you point out exactly what the clear and present danger was? Perhaps so many people, even officials agreed with Bush because they trusted that the information he was using was accurate (as he assured the country it was). This doesn't appear to be the case.
 
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This post is mainly for the Christian mindset.


I am bothered at the folks who wish to see Bush removed.

I am bothered because it seems to me you are forgetting who put Bush in office. No it was not the popular vote, although that was the means in which the work was done.

Reflect back, if you will, with me to the times when Israel demanded a king. The Lord told them, naww you dont want a king, but they insisted. Since then, leadership has been in play by the Lord's hand.

Skip ahead to our timeframe and we have a president in power the likes of which Christianity has not seen in a long, long time. And you bulk at this placement. You bulk!

With each day that goes by I am truely reminded of the Kind David story that seems to mirror what Bush is now doing.

Could be that Iraq is Bush's bathsheba, but you know what, even the downfall of Bathsheba could not keep David from the Lords work.

Rise up folks and see what the Lord has done here....
 
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