Makes me wonder where we went wrong. All through the old testament women are treated as property. I wonder if it isn't just a bit of insecurity in todays time.
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They weren't supposed to be property or slaves back then, either. Eve was never meant to be Adam's biatch, but rather his wife. She came from his side, because she was supposed to be his ally, not a slave.
Just sayin.
They weren't supposed to be property or slaves back then, either. Eve was never meant to be Adam's biatch, but rather his wife. She came from his side, because she was supposed to be his ally, not a slave.
Just sayin.
How can you possibly disagree that it's not love to let your wife go into harms way because she wants to? If you disagree with that, you disagree with the fundamental Biblical truths of the Word of God.
Genesis 3:16Makes me wonder where we went wrong. All through the old testament women are treated as property. I wonder if it isn't just a bit of insecurity in todays time.
How can you possibly disagree that it's not love to let your wife go into harms way because she wants to? If you disagree with that, you disagree with the fundamental Biblical truths of the Word of God.
Genesis 3:16
That's just it though. That was a consequence to the fall, not God's Will. Is not this one of the things that Christ came to demolish, the death from the fall?If women can subject themselves to that, I say more power to them. I personally find a relationship is more fulfilling, more loving and more productive when we don't live our lives like cave people. Evolve! That's just me.
Of course if you say evolve, it means you are saying basically grow into something better, which would mean you disagree with the bible which is a sin. I am not saying I 100% agree that women should be submissive, but if God says he wants it that way who am I to disagree?If women can subject themselves to that, I say more power to them. I personally find a relationship is more fulfilling, more loving and more productive when we don't live our lives like cave people. Evolve! That's just me.
No one is saying that women shouldn't be submissive. Where the disagreement comes in, is when people say that men somehow aren't supposed to ever submit, or that it's good and right for men to rule over women. That's taking the curse of the fall, and calling it good, instead of the negative consequence that it was.Of course if you say evolve, it means you are saying basically grow into something better, which would mean you disagree with the bible which is a sin. I am not saying I 100% agree that women should be submissive, but if God says he wants it that way who am I to disagree?
I would be no better then Adam and Eve. Heck that's how we got here in the first place because of wanting different, evolving, more...etc.
That's just it though. That was a consequence to the fall, not God's Will. Is not this one of the things that Christ came to demolish, the death from the fall?
I don't disagree.If I'm reading your question right, I would say yes as we are free from the law. It was actually going to be my next statement on the matter.if I've read this wrong then I'm sure you disagree and that's ok too.
Of course if you say evolve, it means you are saying basically grow into something better, which would mean you disagree with the bible which is a sin. I am not saying I 100% agree that women should be submissive, but if God says he wants it that way who am I to disagree?
I would be no better then Adam and Eve. Heck thats how we got here in the first place because of wanting diffrent, evolving, more...etc.
So I was just having a conversation with someone about submission and how men should lead their families and wives in the spirit of love and meekness to benefit them.
Like, say a husband finds out that his wife is going to participate in an activity that is not "godly" but rather worldly. Now, the husband, after praying and making judgement based on what the Bible says, states that it's not a good idea and he doesn't want her to go. If she does, is she dishonoring her husband?
Is this not what kind of leadership a husband needs to exude over his wife?
What verses state this is how this should be done? Shouldn't a man be able to make decisions for his wife if he feels it's best? If made out of love and meekness, and not for personal gain or motive?
I don't believe Paul meant that women should be at a constant knee-too-foot position to the husband, I believe Paul is using this in reference to Genesis 3:16, where God says that the desire of the wife will be the husband's, and he will rule over her. This was put in place because initially, the man was the spiritual leader of the family unit.
Like, say a husband finds out that his wife is going to participate in an activity that is not "godly" but rather worldly. Now, the husband, after praying and making judgement based on what the Bible says, states that it's not a good idea and he doesn't want her to go. If she does, is she dishonoring her husband?
What was a curse?
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