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Withholding blessings

r035198x

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I thought this thread was about the time I bid 1,873,341,142 on leothelioness and Jennie conjured up a fake time technicality to deny me my win.

Good deeds? I'm not capable of any without Him so if I get blessed it's not because of something I can take credit for.
 
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And no one has shared what blessing they want to get from God.

I imagine fulfillment and peace are the things that most people long for. Being with God provides this, so is in effect its own reward.


Which for one reason or another reminds me of this quote:

“People wish to be settled; only as far as they are unsettled is there any hope for them.”
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
 
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This is a touchy subject.

Firstly I'd say that I do not ascribe to the view that there is a huge difference between material and spiritual blessing. There is a difference but grace is the generosity of God, whether that takes the form of material blessing or not, and material stuff can and does make us miserable and depressed, but not always. That being said, I don't agree with the trend that pressures people into seeing suffering (from the natural perspective) as blessing from God, as if that's the aim or goal of faith. IOW, God does not crucify believers. People may crucify us, and God may not stop it, but it is not God that does it, and He avenges such. That being said, I do think that people can, at times, reap what they sow and have blessing taken away.

Secondly, when one perseveres under trial, there is a spiritual reward. Being under trial itself can be seen as drawing closer to the Son, who was crucified. That would also be why God is near to the brokenhearted, and those who are of a "meek", "contrite" spirit. Again, not because stuff is bad and pain and suffering is good, but because this is the world's attitude toward God, and in drawing closer to Him, He becomes our reward. That's why, in my estimation, that it was possible for Abraham to receive God as a reward through faith (Gen 15:1) even though he was still materially blessed and not crucified, and also for material "curses" to be the result of drawing closer to God.

Thirdly, as for material blessings, I for one am not a deist and I believe in a God who is able to do stuff, whether miracles, or blessings, but at the same time, I've never been an extraordinarily "blessed" man no matter what I do, and usually it seems that it's because I end up with the wrong people in my life who want to "curse" me in some sense. Do I think it's God's will? Well it hasn't been His will to deliver me, but He has sustained me. That being said, I think there is a need for realistic bounds on expectations of material blessings. I don't expect goodies to be raining from the sky or anything, but, hypothetically, if even materially cursed believers were gathered in one community, I would expect that material blessing would be a natural consequence.

Smart choice. As best I can recall goodies raining from the sky only happened once. Personally I'd rather not wander in the desert for 40 years.
 
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