With no appropriations bill in sight, House GOP keeps kicking the can (otherwise government shutdown Oct 1st...Nov 17th...JanFeb...March...)

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The White House on Thursday urged Congress to adopt a short-term measure to fund the federal government, a move meant to buy time for lawmakers to craft a broader spending deal and avert a shutdown at the end of September.

The GOP demands [to cut spending] mark a sharp break with the deal that party leaders, including House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), worked out with the president this spring to raise the nation’s debt limit — an agreement that was supposed to prevent another stalemate over spending this fall.

“Although the crucial work continues to reach a bipartisan, bicameral agreement on fiscal year 2024 appropriations bills, it is clear that a short-term continuing resolution (CR) will be needed next month,” a spokeswoman for the Office of Management and Budget said Thursday.

Even with such a stopgap, though, OMB said some federal accounts would need spending increases. That includes the Women, Infants and Children nutrition program, known as WIC, which provides monthly aid to roughly 6.6 million poor families. With food prices still high and program participation on the rise, its existing, roughly $5.69 billion budget is not sufficient to provide benefits at their current level through next fiscal year

The new White House call for [additional WIC] funding stands in stark contrast with the plan put forward by House Republicans, who instead seek to roll back that expansion — which could reduce the amount some WIC recipients receive for fruits and vegetables to about $11 per month.

[Another account in need is FEMA. 'Deanne Criswell, the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said its primary disaster-response account had reached a dangerously low balance, now at $3.4 billion.' Early estimates of damage from Hurricane Idalia range from $10 to $20 billion.]

Earlier this month, [House Speaker] McCarthy and his Senate counterpart, Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), each signaled early support for a continuing resolution that might offer lawmakers more time to craft a full-year spending deal.

But conservatives have resisted the idea, once again illustrating how the powerful far-right lot could frustrate any attempt to reach a deal. As lawmakers departed for their annual August recess, Rep. Chip Roy (R-Tex.) — a top member of the House Freedom Caucus — pledged on local radio to “use every tool I have at my disposal” to stop a short-term spending deal that doesn’t include conservatives’ priorities.

Note that this inability to smoothly pass spending bills and raise the debt ceiling (largely due to pointless hard-right truculence) is what led to a ratings downgrade of US debt.
 
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It's not going to happen, but i really wish McCarthy would ditch the far right and try to put together a bipartisan coalition. Because history has shown, and is showing us right now, the more he appeases them the more they push.
 
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It's not going to happen, but i really wish McCarthy would ditch the far right and try to put together a bipartisan coalition.
The tenuous hold he has on his position precludes that.
 
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The White House on Thursday urged Congress to adopt a short-term measure to fund the federal government, a move meant to buy time for lawmakers to craft a broader spending deal and avert a shutdown at the end of September.

The GOP demands [to cut spending] mark a sharp break with the deal that party leaders, including House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), worked out with the president this spring to raise the nation’s debt limit — an agreement that was supposed to prevent another stalemate over spending this fall.

“Although the crucial work continues to reach a bipartisan, bicameral agreement on fiscal year 2024 appropriations bills, it is clear that a short-term continuing resolution (CR) will be needed next month,” a spokeswoman for the Office of Management and Budget said Thursday.

Even with such a stopgap, though, OMB said some federal accounts would need spending increases. That includes the Women, Infants and Children nutrition program, known as WIC, which provides monthly aid to roughly 6.6 million poor families. With food prices still high and program participation on the rise, its existing, roughly $5.69 billion budget is not sufficient to provide benefits at their current level through next fiscal year

The new White House call for [additional WIC] funding stands in stark contrast with the plan put forward by House Republicans, who instead seek to roll back that expansion — which could reduce the amount some WIC recipients receive for fruits and vegetables to about $11 per month.

[Another account in need is FEMA. 'Deanne Criswell, the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said its primary disaster-response account had reached a dangerously low balance, now at $3.4 billion.' Early estimates of damage from Hurricane Idalia range from $10 to $20 billion.]

Earlier this month, [House Speaker] McCarthy and his Senate counterpart, Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), each signaled early support for a continuing resolution that might offer lawmakers more time to craft a full-year spending deal.

But conservatives have resisted the idea, once again illustrating how the powerful far-right lot could frustrate any attempt to reach a deal. As lawmakers departed for their annual August recess, Rep. Chip Roy (R-Tex.) — a top member of the House Freedom Caucus — pledged on local radio to “use every tool I have at my disposal” to stop a short-term spending deal that doesn’t include conservatives’ priorities.

Note that this inability to smoothly pass spending bills and raise the debt ceiling (largely due to pointless hard-right truculence) is what led to a ratings downgrade of US debt.
There is no "ceiling" .... both parties have contributed to our enormous debt and will continue to do so .... our debt is totally out of control and both parties know it. No doubt it will collapse some day ... don't know when or how long that will take .... but it will indeed happen.

There is a "shadow" government being set up and are mostly already in place (the New World order/the common good - both the same agenda) ... I believe when the total collapse happens these entities will take over and there will be global government. The bible supports this as being the case. It will be the mesh of governments, business fornicating with religion (the pope)

When the financial collapse happens most of earths inhabits will be in such peril/suffering they will gladly give control over to these powers in hope that it will end the extreme crises that are yet to come ... but in reality the total loss of freedom will make matters much worse .... severe persecution will happen ... just like in the dark ages.
 
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There is no "ceiling" .... both parties have contributed to our enormous debt and will continue to do so .... our debt is totally out of control and both parties know it. No doubt it will collapse some day ... don't know when or how long that will take .... but it will indeed happen.

There is a "shadow" government being set up and are mostly already in place (the New World order/the common good - both the same agenda) ... I believe when the total collapse happens these entities will take over and there will be global government. The bible supports this as being the case. It will be the mesh of governments, business fornicating with religion (the pope)

When the financial collapse happens most of earths inhabits will be in such peril/suffering they will gladly give control over to these powers in hope that it will end the extreme crises that are yet to come ... but in reality the total loss of freedom will make matters much worse .... severe persecution will happen ... just like in the dark ages.
A shadow government? Really. Is there any evidence for this?


trump will have a difficult time as president if he is in prison.
 
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There is no "ceiling" .... both parties have contributed to our enormous debt and will continue to do so .... our debt is totally out of control and both parties know it. No doubt it will collapse some day ... don't know when or how long that will take .... but it will indeed happen.

There is a "shadow" government being set up and are mostly already in place (the New World order/the common good - both the same agenda) ... I believe when the total collapse happens these entities will take over and there will be global government. The bible supports this as being the case. It will be the mesh of governments, business fornicating with religion (the pope)

When the financial collapse happens most of earths inhabits will be in such peril/suffering they will gladly give control over to these powers in hope that it will end the extreme crises that are yet to come ... but in reality the total loss of freedom will make matters much worse .... severe persecution will happen ... just like in the dark ages.
It’s like you think that “money” is a “real thing”.
 
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I still find it funny that the debt ceiling is only a problem when a democrat is in office. Under GOP administrations, we never hear this kinda stuff.

-- A2SG, though the debt usually goes up a lot more under GOP leadership.....
 
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I still find it funny that the debt ceiling is only a problem when a democrat is in office. Under GOP administrations, we never hear this kinda stuff.

-- A2SG, though the debt usually goes up a lot more under GOP leadership.....
That’s because the Democrats won’t play this game.
 
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That’s because the Democrats won’t play this game.
Apparently, they're too busy rigging elections and leaving behind no trace whatsoever due to their ruthless efficiency and uncanny ability to get every single democrat to agree completely and utterly without question or complaint....

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A2SG, yeah, I can't say that with a straight face either.....
 
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A shadow government? Really. Is there any evidence for this?


trump will have a difficult time as president if he is in prison.
Most certainly is .... WEF, WHO, IMF and other related organizations. Global government is on the horizon.

We are yet to see how all this plays out with Trump.
 
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Congress poised for messy September as McCarthy races to avoid government shutdown

In a private conference call last week, McCarthy urged his colleagues to back a short-term spending deal to avoid an October 1 shutdown and instead focus their energy on the larger funding fight later in the fall, sources on the call told CNN.

[T]o pass legislation in the House by a majority vote, the chamber must first approve a rule – a procedural vote that is typically only supported by the majority party and opposed by the minority party. Yet several hard-right conservatives told CNN they are prepared to take down the rule over the spending bill if their demands aren’t met.

That would leave McCarthy with a choice: Either side with conservative hardliners and set up a major clash with the White House or cut a deal with Democrats and pass the spending bill by a two-thirds majority, a threshold that would allow them to approve the bill without having to adopt a rule first but could force McCarthy to give more concessions to Democrats.

One GOP lawmaker acknowledged there have been conversations among conservative hardliners about using a “motion to vacate” – a procedural tool that forces a floor vote to oust the speaker – to gain leverage in the funding fight, if they feel like McCarthy isn’t sticking to his spending promises or gives too much away to Democrats.
 
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Congress poised for messy September as McCarthy races to avoid government shutdown

In a private conference call last week, McCarthy urged his colleagues to back a short-term spending deal to avoid an October 1 shutdown and instead focus their energy on the larger funding fight later in the fall, sources on the call told CNN.

[T]o pass legislation in the House by a majority vote, the chamber must first approve a rule – a procedural vote that is typically only supported by the majority party and opposed by the minority party. Yet several hard-right conservatives told CNN they are prepared to take down the rule over the spending bill if their demands aren’t met.

That would leave McCarthy with a choice: Either side with conservative hardliners and set up a major clash with the White House or cut a deal with Democrats and pass the spending bill by a two-thirds majority, a threshold that would allow them to approve the bill without having to adopt a rule first but could force McCarthy to give more concessions to Democrats.

One GOP lawmaker acknowledged there have been conversations among conservative hardliners about using a “motion to vacate” – a procedural tool that forces a floor vote to oust the speaker – to gain leverage in the funding fight, if they feel like McCarthy isn’t sticking to his spending promises or gives too much away to Democrats.
Let us see if the Speaker of the House can lead the Democratic caucus to do a deal with the Speaker’s Party?
 
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Short term spending bills keeping to US FAA going (but underfunded) are part of the reason Boeing was able to certify its own work on the 737 MAX, and two aircraft ended up impacting the ground at high speed. The FAA ended up short of engineering resources and needed to deputize Boeing in order to validate its own flight software.

But hey, I'm sure nothing like that could ever happen again....
 
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Short term spending bills keeping to US FAA going (but underfunded) are part of the reason Boeing was able to certify its own work on the 737 MAX, and two aircraft ended up impacting the ground at high speed. The FAA ended up short of engineering resources and needed to deputize Boeing in order to validate its own flight software.

But hey, I'm sure nothing like that could ever happen again....
What do you have against laissez faire capitalism? A few harsh landings is a small price to pay for increased shareholder earnings.
 
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House lawmakers return to looming budget and impeachment decisions

Balancing the two demands could be the hardest test of Speaker McCarthy’s leadership thus far​

Several lawmakers and senior aides close to leadership detailed what they see as the likeliest deal: House Republicans would pass a month-long budget extension, known as a continuing resolution, that would almost certainly include concessions to the hard right to allow time to pass individual appropriations bills throughout October.

Multiple people said finding a path to averting a shutdown will begin in earnest once lawmakers descend on Washington, because there have not been active negotiations over the August recess. [well that's not very reassuring]

The politics of an impeachment inquiry​

Perhaps no piece of the funding puzzle is more complicated than the politics of potentially opening an impeachment inquiry into Biden — and whether the issue will be used to entice far-right lawmakers to avoid a shutdown.

Rep. Ken Buck (R-Colo.), a member of the Freedom Caucus, criticized his colleagues who are pushing to open an inquiry.
“The time for impeachment is the time when there’s evidence … linking President Biden to a high crime or misdemeanor,” Buck said in an NBC News interview. “That doesn’t exist right now, and it isn’t really something that we can say, ‘Well, in February we’re going to do this.’”
 
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House punts on Pentagon bill, an ominous sign as shutdown looms

House Republicans on Wednesday failed to move forward on a procedural vote advancing a bill to fund the Defense Department after it became clear they did not have enough votes to secure its passage.

The inability to move forward on a basic step to fund the government — the House’s top responsibility enshrined in the Constitution — offered an example of just how difficult it will be for McCarthy and the ideologically fractured Republican majority to find consensus, keep the government open and avert blame if a shutdown is triggered. The House has less than a dozen days in session before the Sept. 30 deadline.


Once more, for those in the back: The GOP, as the majority party, is unable to pass a funding bill for the Defense Department.
 
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The speaker is fully prepared to ride out the coming storm and move ahead with a short-term spending bill to fund the government, despite repeated warnings from his right flank that such a move would result in a floor vote to remove him, called the motion to vacate the chair.
He's really in a no-win situation right now. I honestly believe he's going to be facing the motion to vacate no matter what. Either for compromising with Democrats or not being able to avoid a shutdown.
 
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