Wine

[trophy33]

If you have an issue with alcohol dont drink it! Simples.....

Jesus drank wine..

Jesus could also rise the dead. Can you too? Are you also a perfectly healthy 30 years old man living in the Mediterranean region, eating clean organic fish-based diet and walking long distances, daily?

When two are doing the same thing, it is not the same thing.

 

[Lost4words]

Jesus could also rise the dead. Can you too?

I can lift them up!

With some help though as my legs are very short..

 

[trophy33]

I can lift them up!

With some help though as my legs are very short..

So, if somebody can rise the dead and heal any disease, it is probably not a big deal if such person drinks a bit of wine, right?

On the other hand, for obese, unhealthy, stressed Americans on sugar based diets, using plenty of meds and basically living in cars, adding also alcohol to their diets will have a totally different outcomes, logically.

 

[Lost4words]

So, if somebody can rise the dead and heal any disease, it is probably not a big deal if such person drinks a bit of wine, right?

On the other hand, for obese, unhealthy, stressed Americans on sugar based diets, using plenty of meds and basically living in cars, adding also alcohol to their diets will have a totally different outcomes, logically.

Obv they shouldnt drink alcohol...

 

[BPPLEE]

Instead of opinions, let us use some facts:

The risk of developing cancer increases substantially the more alcohol is consumed. However, latest available data indicate that half of all alcohol-attributable cancers in the WHO European Region are caused by “light” and “moderate” alcohol consumption – less than 1.5 litres of wine or less than 3.5 litres of beer or less than 450 millilitres of spirits per week.

No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

The risks and harms associated with drinking alcohol have been systematically evaluated over the years and are well documented.

www.who.int

3.5 litres of beer is 10 beers. 10 beers a day is not moderate.
1.5 litres of wine is 4 glasses.
Not really moderate

 

[RileyG]

Jesus could also rise the dead. Can you too? Are you also a perfectly healthy 30 years old man living in the Mediterranean region, eating clean organic fish-based diet and walking long distances, daily?

When two are doing the same thing, it is not the same thing.

So no one except Jesus should drink wine? What?

 

[RileyG]

3.5 litres of beer is 10 beers. 10 beers a day is not moderate.
1.5 litres of wine is 4 glasses.
Not really moderate

Yup. Some people over drink.

 

[RileyG]

If you have an issue with alcohol dont drink it! Simples.....

Jesus drank wine..

I always have half a bottle in my bowl every night!! Its delicious..

It’s almost summer time! Some very cold moscato sounds delicious!

 

[trophy33]

3.5 litres of beer is 10 beers. 10 beers a day is not moderate.
1.5 litres of wine is 4 glasses.
Not really moderate

It is per week.

That means for example one beer (it is usually 500ml in Europe) a day.

 

[trophy33]

So no one except Jesus should drink wine? What?

If you are perfectly healthy, you can deal with some small liver toxicity, carcinogens, brain damage or terrible sleep (alcohol does all of this and more). But nobody should recommend that or call that healthy.

 

[Apple Sky]

It’s almost summer time! Some very cold moscato sounds delicious!

I used to enjoy a very cold glass of Mateus -

 

[RileyG]

I used to enjoy a very cold glass of Mateus -

Nice! Never had it.

 

[RileyG]

If you are perfectly healthy, you can deal with some small liver toxicity, carcinogens, brain damage or terrible sleep (alcohol does all of this and more). But nobody should recommend that or call that healthy.

Ok? I’m far from perfectly healthy and I definitely enjoy my wine and my hard liquor. Not that I’m proud of that.

 

[trophy33]

Ok? I’m far from perfectly healthy and I definitely enjoy my wine and my hard liquor. Not that I’m proud of that.

People can enjoy all sorts of harmful things, that is on everybody's decision. For example, I sometimes overeat sweet chocolates and similar things.

I am just against recommending it or claiming it is actually healthy, after it has been proven it is not.

 

[RileyG]

People can enjoy all sorts of harmful things, that is on everybody's decision. For example, I sometimes overeat sweet chocolates and similar things.

I am just against recommending it or claiming it is actually healthy, after it has been proven it is not.

That’s entirely fair.

 

[BPPLEE]

It is per week.

That means for example one beer (it is usually 500ml in Europe) a day.

Drinking alcoholic beverages is linked to an increased risk of certain cancers. Ethanol in alcohol and its metabolite, acetaldehyde, are classified as Group 1 carcinogens by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), meaning there’s strong evidence they cause cancer in humans. The risk depends on the amount and frequency of alcohol consumption, with heavier drinking (more than 3 drinks per day) showing a clearer association.
Cancers strongly linked to alcohol include:

• Mouth, throat (pharynx, larynx), and esophagus: Alcohol irritates tissues and may act synergistically with smoking.
• Liver: Chronic drinking leads to cirrhosis, which raises the risk of liver cancer.
• Breast: Even moderate drinking (1-2 drinks per day) increases risk, possibly due to hormonal changes.
• Colorectal: Higher risk with heavy drinking, though the mechanism is less clear.

Light drinking (less than 1 drink per day) shows minimal or no consistent link to cancer risk, but no level is deemed completely "safe." Mechanisms include DNA damage from acetaldehyde, oxidative stress, and interference with nutrient absorption (e.g., folate). Genetic factors, like ALDH2 gene variants common in some populations, can amplify risk by slowing acetaldehyde breakdown.
Data from the American Cancer Society (2020) estimates alcohol contributes to about 5.6% of cancer cases in the U.S. Risk varies by individual factors like genetics, smoking, and diet. Cutting down or avoiding alcohol reduces risk, though not immediately for long-term heavy drinkers.

 

[trophy33]

Drinking alcoholic beverages is linked to an increased risk of certain cancers. Ethanol in alcohol and its metabolite, acetaldehyde, are classified as Group 1 carcinogens by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), meaning there’s strong evidence they cause cancer in humans. The risk depends on the amount and frequency of alcohol consumption, with heavier drinking (more than 3 drinks per day) showing a clearer association.
Cancers strongly linked to alcohol include:

• Mouth, throat (pharynx, larynx), and esophagus: Alcohol irritates tissues and may act synergistically with smoking.
• Liver: Chronic drinking leads to cirrhosis, which raises the risk of liver cancer.
• Breast: Even moderate drinking (1-2 drinks per day) increases risk, possibly due to hormonal changes.
• Colorectal: Higher risk with heavy drinking, though the mechanism is less clear.

Light drinking (less than 1 drink per day) shows minimal or no consistent link to cancer risk, but no level is deemed completely "safe." Mechanisms include DNA damage from acetaldehyde, oxidative stress, and interference with nutrient absorption (e.g., folate). Genetic factors, like ALDH2 gene variants common in some populations, can amplify risk by slowing acetaldehyde breakdown.
Data from the American Cancer Society (2020) estimates alcohol contributes to about 5.6% of cancer cases in the U.S. Risk varies by individual factors like genetics, smoking, and diet. Cutting down or avoiding alcohol reduces risk, though not immediately for long-term heavy drinkers.

Not sure how is this a reaction to my post. It is some copy&paste of a general summary from an AI, I suppose.

 

[BPPLEE]

Not sure how is this a reaction to my post. It is some copy&paste of a general summary from an AI, I suppose.

It's pretty much agreeing with you. Sorry if you can't accept that

 

[trophy33]

It's pretty much agreeing with you. Sorry if you can't accept that

I am not surprised that an AI agrees with what is scientifically proven. I said I am not sure how is this an answer to my post that you have mistaken "per week" with "per day".

A proper answer to my post would be something like "Oh, you are right, I misread the quote, it is per week, i.e. it is really a light/moderate consumption".

 

[BPPLEE]

I am not surprised that an AI agrees with what is scientifically proven. I said I am not sure how is this an answer to my post that you have mistaken "per week" with "per day".

A proper answer to my post would be something like "Oh, you are right, I misread the quote, it is per week, i.e. it is really a light/moderate consumption".

Oh, you are right, I misread the quote, it is per week, i.e. it is really a light/moderate consumption".