Windows Vista: Will you install it?

[WalksWithChrist]

Ok, I read this long article in Maximum PC yesterday about Vista. Here's the M$ Vista site: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.mspx I must admit I'm curious!! The one thing that scares me is DRM. The article *says* DRM will be optional but I have to ask myself, do I trust M$? The answer will anways be NO. But I'm still curious. It can't be worse than XP which seems to be getting worse, not better. Let's not even talk about Windows Me.

 

[dclem9834]

unfrotunatly drm is going to be required soon to be able to play alot of the new media coming out including games, but i have full confidence that hackers will do what they do best and we will end up being able to continue on as if drm didnt exsist, but on Vista i will try it once it has a year or so to work out bugs, i didnt go to xp till sp2 came out either. and i sure as heck think xp is the best thing to come out form M$ since win 3.1 thank god its better then win me

 

[WalksWithChrist]

unfrotunatly drm is going to be required soon to be able to play alot of the new media coming out including games, but i have full confidence that hackers will do what they do best and we will end up being able to continue on as if drm didnt exsist, but on Vista i will try it once it has a year or so to work out bugs, i didnt go to xp till sp2 came out either. and i sure as heck think xp is the best thing to come out form M$ since win 3.1 thank god its better then win me

Good points. I will wait too...a while. That's if I ever get it. Maybe I'll just get a cheap laptop for my wife one day with Vista preloaded. God bless the hackers!!

 

[LiberatedChick]

Nah, I'm quite happy with my linux.

 

[Quantos]

Will I run it, yep wont have much choice.

IF I want to make shure that the software I write runs on it, Ill need a system for testing & working with.

 

[WeakButHopeful]

In my opinion (and I'm not saying it's worth all that much) we're in a situation analogous to the time when folks were discussing the relative advantages of the 80386 vs the 80486 (remember them? before Pentiums).

I know that was a hardware example, but even with software I think the PC industry often times spoon feeds small incremental improvements to users with a lot of advertising and little substance, attempting to maximize income using a ramp down pricing scheme. As we all know with the perspective of hindsight, the improvements from Win95 to Win98 to WinME were purely incremental, at least compared to the major leap that WinXP represented.

Of course, you could argue that Vista is the next leap. I don't think so. I think MS has lost its edge, lost the momentum and the mystique. I also don't think they "get" the big picture (i.e., communications, entertainment, security, changing demographics and governmental realities). Personally, I'm playing a wait and see game because I think we *are* ready for a quantum leap, but I'm not sure whether it's going to be application delivery by Google, or true computing/entertainment integration, or broader broadband/wifi. And I do *not* want to waste my hard earned money on a bunch of tiny incremental steps, I'd rather buy at the middle of the price ramp than at the top of it, and I don't think the industry wags know how it's going to shake out either (but maybe I should be more humble, huh?)

My 2 cents worth.

 

[JordanF]

I will certainly not migrate. I've moved all of my systems to Linux or UNIX.
Microsoft is going bad -- it's a piece of junk.

 

[Qyöt27]

I'm happy sticking with my XP 2002 Basic, thank you. Unless I won't be able to utilise better hardware without switching to Vista, there's just no reason to. And I'm in the stage where I'm going to be putting Linux on as a dual-boot, so that would effectively nullify hardware issues. If development for the Linux branches of the existing Windows programs I use continues or starts in the future, I'll be okay. And depending on the circumstances, I may just be able to run the stragglers through an emulator.

I'll still keep my copy of XP around for the sake of it. For certain things it may just be easier to boot up Windows instead, so at least I'd have it ready.

 

[WalksWithChrist]

Good posts! The one overriding reason I will ever get it is to let my wife play with it and because I'm an IT support guy and will need to know it sooner than later. If it weren't for those two things, I'd stick with my Mac and do the occasional gaming on XP.

 

[osx]

trust the evil empire? not me.

 

[Mikesoft]

Microsoft is going bad -- it's a piece of junk.

Micro$oft are bad but they are not a piece of junk. The only problem with Microsoft is that they want to be the world leader of computers and do not want to be equal with someone else (such as apple or linux). Microsoft actually have a very skilled team of people that put loads of work into the OS. However human make mistakes and that then causes problems to happen with windows. This is the same for linux too. I have used linux many times (ubuntu, fedora,suse, mepis, vector, lindows, madriva) and spotted errors causes by humans.

Personally I do not like buying Microsoft products simply because of their approach to the market. However I love playing computer games and using microsoft office which is by far better than the open office currently. This is why I use windows and as windows visita looks sexy and up-to-date I will proberly upgrade to it once it comes out. However if linux suddenly can run windows games and openoffice becomes amazing then I will switch to linux.

 

[Psalms34]

Currently, it does not work with some of the development tools I use, so until such issues are resolved on one end or the other, I’m avoiding Vista.

 

[JordanF]

Micro$oft are bad but they are not a piece of junk. The only problem with Microsoft is that they want to be the world leader of computers and do not want to be equal with someone else (such as apple or linux).

Who wouldn't want to be the world leader? It's called competition.

Microsoft actually have a very skilled team of people that put loads of work into the OS.

The OS is lazily coded. They people that actually code their software are interns and unexperienced programmers. The experienced ones just "design" the "Architecture".

However human make mistakes and that then causes problems to happen with windows. This is the same for linux too. I have used linux many times (ubuntu, fedora,suse, mepis, vector, lindows, madriva) and spotted errors causes by humans.

I use Linux daily and have not seen any major errors. Any small errors I've seen were fixed with the next kernel version.

Personally I do not like buying Microsoft products simply because of their approach to the market.

That's the wrong attitude towards business. Capitalism.

Microsoft churns out low-quality products. In addition the MS administration has no clue about where technology is going (they at first though the web and internet were useless). Microsoft thought GUIs were total crap until Apple introduced them.

 

[troglodyte]

it couldn't be all that bad. i'd trust it. Windows may be infamous, but it hasn't failed me yet so i bear with it.Vista should be quite cool. Mac has nothing on this OS. other than the power of that G5...

 

[WalksWithChrist]

it couldn't be all that bad. i'd trust it. Windows may be infamous, but it hasn't failed me yet so i bear with it.Vista should be quite cool. Mac has nothing on this OS. other than the power of that G5...

Sorry, but most of the features of Vista are straight rip offs of OS X. I don't even know where to begin! M$ has *always* ripped off Apple even in the infant days of Windows 1.0...this is nothing new.

 

[Ragamuffins]

Good points. I will wait too...a while. That's if I ever get it. Maybe I'll just get a cheap laptop for my wife one day with Vista preloaded. God bless the hackers!!

Reading about this last night (PC World) it will be quite some time before Vista is available on budget laptops because of the enormous strains it takes on resources. So getting a cheap laptop with Vista seems hardily possible for a good long time

The article also said that many of the laptops today will not be able to handle it ither, and laptops with Vista will ship six months after the initial release of the OS.

 

[Psalms34]

Reading about this last night (PC World) it will be quite some time before Vista is available on budget laptops because of the enormous strains it takes on resources. So getting a cheap laptop with Vista seems hardily possible for a good long time

The article also said that many of the laptops today will not be able to handle it ither, and laptops with Vista will ship six months after the initial release of the OS.

heh sounds about right. I bought a laptop loaded with XP before XP was released and it could not handle XP, well not until I dumped in a ton of memory. Also things like video drivers really did not work right with it for some months. I expect Vista to be released with the same results since this is M$'$ track record. My new desktop is Vista ready, but I'm sure Vista won't be ready for my desktop for some time.

 

[Mikesoft]

There is nothing wrong with Microsoft products...

Linux does have errors. Especially with the KDE desktop interface.

 

[Psalms34]

There is nothing wrong with Microsoft products...

hehehe actually there is, I have some very important tools I use daily that are not working with Vista as reported in my programming community. So yes, there are problems with this M$ product right now.

 

[troglodyte]

Sorry, but most of the features of Vista are straight rip offs of OS X. I don't even know where to begin! M$ has *always* ripped off Apple even in the infant days of Windows 1.0...this is nothing new.

i don't see Mac using a pretty start menu... unless you consider that bar on the top a good looker...

do i see Glass on the Mac desktops? no.

It took mac a few years to adopt something with a right click...

and look who's dominating the market

in terms of usefulness and versatility, i will go with MS until i find a major greivance...