Willful Sin

[Bro.T]

Hey there again yall,

I found this particular subject online and I wanted to discuss this with you.

Hebrews 10:26-27 talks about willful sin. It says that if we sin willfully after obtaining the knowledge of Jesus Christ, there remains no more sacrifice for sins and we are to wait for fearful judgment.

But isn't all sin willful? Don't we fall back into sin from time to time? Does this passage mean that if we sin once, we are doomed forever?

Can anyone shine some light on this subject?

I fear that I have done this from time to time. I know that I have OCD, but this should fear even a right-minded Christian.

When Jesus died on the cross he caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease. This signified the end of the law of animal sacrifice, not Gods Royal law. Paul explained this in; [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](Heb.10:1, 9-10,18,26-27) (v.1) For the law [/FONT][/FONT](what law, the law of animal sacrifice?) [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. (v.9) Then said he, (Jesus) Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first that he may establish the second. (v.10) By which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. [/FONT][/FONT]When Jesus died on the cross that was the end of the first covenant, which consisted of the blood of animals and the keeping of God’s commandments. And his death also brought in the second covenant, which consist of the blood of Jesus and the keeping of God’s commandments. [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](v.18) Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. [/FONT][/FONT]In other words, no more animals are going to die for your sins. [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](v.26) For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins. [/FONT][/FONT]Now do we understand what’s being said here? If you sin willfully after you have knowledge of what the truth is, no more animals are going to die for you. [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman](v.27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.[/FONT][/FONT] Now if you are being deceived into believing that once you are under God’s grace you no longer have to keep his commandments, all you have to look forward to is the day of judgement and the lake of fire (fiery indignation).

 

[Lemmiwinks]

ALL sin is willful sin.

People who think their sins are merely accidental, and therefore not as bad as people who sin on purpose, are kidding themselves.

 

[RobertZ]

ALL sin is willful sin.

People who think their sins are merely accidental, and therefore not as bad as people who sin on purpose, are kidding themselves.

There are willful sins and sins of ignorance. Paul states that he obtained mercy from God because he sinned in ignorance. There is a difference.

 

[nhisname]

Hey there again yall,

I found this particular subject online and I wanted to discuss this with you.

Hebrews 10:26-27 talks about willful sin. It says that if we sin willfully after obtaining the knowledge of Jesus Christ, there remains no more sacrifice for sins and we are to wait for fearful judgment.

But isn't all sin willful? Don't we fall back into sin from time to time? Does this passage mean that if we sin once, we are doomed forever?

Can anyone shine some light on this subject?

I fear that I have done this from time to time. I know that I have OCD, but this should fear even a right-minded Christian.

To me willful sinning is someone who did not give up his sinful nature when accepting Christ. A lot of Christians think as long as they believe in Jesus and say a prayer once in a while they're covered. When in fact a true Christian when he's saved he will change and will let go of sin and become very sensitive to it. When we do fall the Lord will correct you very fast into repentance for that sin.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

There are willful sins and sins of ignorance. Paul states that he obtained mercy from God because he sinned in ignorance. There is a difference.

He also said that that which he wants to do, he doesn't and that which he dopesn't want to do he does, which means he sinned willfully.

Is Fred Phelps (God Hates [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]) sinning in ignorance? How far does that excuse go?

 

[Lemmiwinks]

To me willful sinning is someone who did not give up his sinful nature when accepting Christ. A lot of Christians think as long as they believe in Jesus and say a prayer once in a while they're covered. When in fact a true Christian when he's saved he will change and will let go of sin and become very sensitive to it. When we do fall the Lord will correct you very fast into repentance for that sin.

You are talking about repentance, not about willful vs unwillful. If someone does a sin, and then repents, doesn't mean that the sin wasn't willful.

 

[RobertZ]

He also said that that which he wants to do, he doesn't and that which he dopesn't want to do he does, which means he sinned willfully.

Before Paul was converted he was slaying Christians in ignorance until God revealed himself to Paul on the road to damascus. Had Paul continued to persecute and kills Christians after his encounter with God it would have been considered willfull sinning in complete defiance against the Lord.

When Paul is saying "that which he wants to do he doesnt and that which he doesnt want to do he does" he is referring to what many christians do......its called struggleing with the old nature and the new nature. If you notice the key word here is struggle and all christians struggle with sin because as long as you are in your earthly body you will have the struggle with the new and old nature.

Willfull sin is knowing that something is wrong and you defiantly do it anyway with no restraint or struggle about it whatsoever.

 

[Bro.T]

There are willful sins and sins of ignorance. Paul states that he obtained mercy from God because he sinned in ignorance. There is a difference.

I agree......Paul wouldn't have stated the word willful if it was not a different.

 

[Bro.T]

Lets take a look at the old law (animal sacrifical) that was nail to the cross. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them: (Leviticus 4:1-2)

The law in the scriptures above is the commandments. Notice something else very important in these two scriptures. It states, "if a soul shall sin through ignorance." Notice that the scripture did not says on purpose. Why? There is no sacrifice for a sin that is committed willfully.

Let's find out what was to be done if a person committed a sin against the Lord unintentionally.
Let's skip down to the 27th verse and take a look at the second law (which is the sacrificial law). And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty; Or if his sin, which he hath sinned, come to his knowledge: then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned. And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering. And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar. (Leviticus 4:27-30)

When the common people sinned through ignorance and it came to their knowledge, what did they have to do? They brought an offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for their sin which they had committed, then the priest would offer the animal to the Lord.

Think about this for a moment. If an animal was killed for a person that committed sin, what will happen to us today if we a trespass against the Lord?

Paul said in Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.