Will you go to hell if?

[Jasminrose]

It has just been in the last year that I came to the wonderful realization through stuggles in my life, study, and prayer that I'm a sinner saved by God's grace, and that I don't have to be good enouph for God, but that if I want to obey him, and bear good fruit it should be because I love him, and not to get myself into heaven. Now, if I a pastor's daughter could live most my life believing I'm saved by works, and not by faith, could this be a common problem? I don't want to ask this question to offend, but to get us to think about this.

Will you go to hell if believe that what Christ did on the Cross was not good enouph, but that you must be saved by your own merit, and works?

 

[Haggai]

It has just been in the last year that I came to the wonderful realization through stuggles in my life, study, and prayer that I'm a sinner saved by God's grace, and that I don't have to be good enouph for God, but that if I want to obey him, and bear good fruit it should be because I love him, and not to get myself into heaven. Now, if I a pastor's daughter could live most my life believing I'm saved by works, and not by faith, could this be a common problem? I don't want to ask this question to offend, but to get us to think about this.

Will you go to hell if believe that what Christ did on the Cross was not good enouph, but that you must be saved by your own merit, and works?

Quite frankly, yes. If you do not believe Christ's death was sufficient, then you cannot be saved. Only through Christ can we be saved, and can we do what is just and right. By our own human power, we can do nothing. I hope you come to a decent understanding of what the purpose of Jesus dieing on the cross was for and what you are to do on your part (through the power of Christ).

 

[Jasminrose]

Quite frankly, yes. If you do not believe Christ's death was sufficient, then you cannot be saved. Only through Christ can we be saved, and can we do what is just and right. By our own human power, we can do nothing. I hope you come to a decent understanding of what the purpose of Jesus dieing on the cross was for and what you are to do on your part (through the power of Christ).

I do have an understanding, I'm not asking for myself. What I'm saying is if I believed this for so long there must be others too, and I want them to have understanding about it.

 

[justcallmejamie]

It has just been in the last year that I came to the wonderful realization through stuggles in my life, study, and prayer that I'm a sinner saved by God's grace, and that I don't have to be good enouph for God, but that if I want to obey him, and bear good fruit it should be because I love him, and not to get myself into heaven. Now, if I a pastor's daughter could live most my life believing I'm saved by works, and not by faith, could this be a common problem? I don't want to ask this question to offend, but to get us to think about this.

Will you go to hell if believe that what Christ did on the Cross was not good enouph, but that you must be saved by your own merit, and works?

kind of undermines grace....but i dont think so i think God's Grace is bigger then out pettiness

 

[Haggai]

kind of undermines grace....but i dont think so i think God's Grace is bigger then out pettiness

God's grace is great, but it does not over power our will to reject Christ. God gives us completele control over what we believe and will not force us in anyway. God works through love, and on the contrary, Satan works through force.

 

[Rorschach]

You gotta look at it from this point of view: if Jesus' death wasn't enough, what is? If we could go to heaven just by doing good works, why did God even send Jesus in the first place?

Anyway, I think the only thing that you can do for those others that belive what you used to is just to pray for them, and be an example to them.

 

[Jasminrose]

kind of undermines grace....but i dont think so i think God's Grace is bigger then out pettiness

So you believe God thinks it petty to believe what Christ did on the Cross was not enouph?

 

[drummmerboykyle]

Jesus tells us that it is only through him that we will get to the Father so I would conclude that it is this and not our good deeds that determine where we go when we die.

 

[Jasminrose]

You gotta look at it from this point of view: if Jesus' death wasn't enough, what is? If we could go to heaven just by doing good works, why did God even send Jesus in the first place?

Anyway, I think the only thing that you can do for those others that belive what you used to is just to pray for them, and be an example to them.

I agree

 

[justcallmejamie]

not at all, i think as believers and already saved christians its easy to forget Gods grace and start doing everything in our strength, i should have clarified sorry.

 

[QuantaCura]

Just don't get lukewarm and say to yourself "I'm not going to do anything because I'm saved by faith alone." Read Jesus' parables. The flames and/or darkness where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth is often where someone who fails to do something ends up.

 

[josephrobert]

I just want to remid the story of the Rich man in the bible who came to Jesus in the night and asked him the question 'Lord what do i have to do to get to the Kingdom of god". Then Jesus replied unto him saying "You should keep the commandments and the laws given to him by Moses. He said yes i am keeping them since my childhood days. Then Jesus said you should sell everything you have and follow me for which he was much dissatisfied. The point here is that the rich man was still in that frame of mind that only his deeds are going to save him. But Jesus had different opinion it is by his grace that he's going be saved or if he trusts in the Son of man that he's going to be saved. This incident is recorded in all the gospels. I mean the point here a person should have the born again experience whether christian, non christian, Jew, gentile, Greek or helenian etc..,. I have talked to a recent christian convert and he shared his testimony of how once he was in sin and worshipping Idols and Imaginative gods and how he became desperate in life and how he heard the Gospel and came to the knowledge of the lord. I mean that is his saving grace and now he is assured that he is going to heaven. I think that the lord gives his grace freely to everyone and any one who trusts in his grace will be eligible for the Kingdom of heaven.

 

[linssue55]

It has just been in the last year that I came to the wonderful realization through stuggles in my life, study, and prayer that I'm a sinner saved by God's grace, and that I don't have to be good enouph for God, but that if I want to obey him, and bear good fruit it should be because I love him, and not to get myself into heaven. Now, if I a pastor's daughter could live most my life believing I'm saved by works, and not by faith, could this be a common problem? I don't want to ask this question to offend, but to get us to think about this.

Will you go to hell if believe that what Christ did on the Cross was not good enouph, but that you must be saved by your own merit, and works?

Those who believe in the Lord shall "NEVER" perish. Why would you even say that about God....Not good enough?? Your "Faith" in the Lord cannot be not be very strong. "It is a "GIFT" from God, and not from "WORKS", lest ANY man should boast".

 

[Jasminrose]

Those who believe in the Lord shall "NEVER" perish. Why would you even say that about God....Not good enough?? Your "Faith" in the Lord cannot be not be very strong. "It is a "GIFT" from God, and not from "WORKS", lest ANY man should boast".

Once again, I'm not talking about myself. I have a friend that feels this way. If you had read my post completely you would have seen that I do know that salvation is a gift from God.