Will those standing before God in judgment even ask for salvation?

bling said:

This is all true, but "had he not" returned would not mean the father did not still love him.

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the thing about Gods love ..is it does not control a persons final decision. God is totally secure in himself .

FatalHeart said:

"Their voice has gone into all the world."

There are plenty verses that support the conviction of the whole world. What of it?

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All people includes those who died in their sins before the cross?

John 12:32

And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.

ClementofA said:

All people includes those who died in their sins before the cross?

John 12:32

And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.

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Wow. That's cool. I didn't even think of that. XD Thanks so much!

ClementofA said:

All people includes those who died in their sins before the cross?

John 12:32

And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.

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yes he draws them .. no they do not all choose to come .

people before the cross are judged as per their state before the cross -God is just -just as people before the law are judged as per their state -God is Just .

Even in this life people get 2nd chances. Not only that, but 10th, 100th, 1,000th, etc.

Even - apostates - (1 Tim.1:19-20) were being given another chance:

19 holding on to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and thereby shipwrecked their faith.
20 Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.

21 Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?
22 Jesus answered, “I tell you, not just seven times, but seventy-seven times!

Luke 17:4
Even if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times returns to say, 'I repent,' you must forgive him."

Love covers a - multitude - of sins.

***Above all***, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.

"Mercy triumphs over judgement" - Love Omnipotent (God)

You cannot sin beyond the ability of God's grace to save you:

"where sin increased, grace abounded all the more"

"I tell you, her sins--and they are many--have been forgiven"

If you want to know how much God loves you, look to the incarnation, life, sufferings, and crucifixion of Christ. His love & power for you are greater than the size of the universe:

Alithis said:

One of the scariest things i observe people do is Gamble thier slavation away for a meager lentil soup ..or a hour of fleshly delights thinking they can "repent later" - this is such self deception . the more often you refuse to repent and instead DO sin , the harder your hearts becomes , when they day comes and you are old upon your bed -you will not find in you the ability to repent to God . you will have become like Pharoah .. and Judas . this is why it is written TODAY id the day of salvation -IF you will NOT HARDEN your hearts ...

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Yet God still seeks to save apostates (1 Tim.1:19-20; cf. 1 Cor.5:4-5).

TDNT is one of the most highly accredited Greek lexicons available. It says re the remedy for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit:

“It denotes the conscious and wicked rejection of the saving power and grace of God towards man. Only the man who sets himself against forgiveness is excluded from it.
In such cases the only remedy is to deliver up to Satan that he may learn not to blaspheme (1 Tim 1:20)” (Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, TDNT, ed. Kittel, Vol.1, p.624, by Beyer).

ClementofA said:

Yet God still seeks to save apostates (1 Tim.1:19-20; cf. 1 Cor.5:4-5).

TDNT is one of the most highly accredited Greek lexicons available. It says re the remedy for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit:

“It denotes the conscious and wicked rejection of the saving power and grace of God towards man. Only the man who sets himself against forgiveness is excluded from it.
In such cases the only remedy is to deliver up to Satan that he may learn not to blaspheme (1 Tim 1:20)” (Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, TDNT, ed. Kittel, Vol.1, p.624, by Beyer).

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It is appointed unto man once to die then .....judgment .
If they refused Christ in this life they have refused salvation.

Now is the day of salvation
Today if you will not harden your hearts.

Dont join the foolish virgins.
Nor the slothful servant
Nor those who were seed ensnared by the cares of this world and became Unfruitful.

Dont be like Esau who profained the things of God and lost his inheritance
And could not find any place for repentance though he sought it with tears.

Alithis said:

It is appointed unto man once to die then .....judgment .

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Judgement, not hopelessness. Judgement, not no more chances for salvation. Judgement, not Love Omnipotent's love has expired like a carton of milk. Judgement, not the hand of the Almighty is impotent to save.

Alithis said:

If they refused Christ in this life they have refused salvation.

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That says nothing about postmortem opportunities for salvation.

Alithis said:

Dont be like Esau who profained the things of God and lost his inheritance
And could not find any place for repentance though he sought it with tears.

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Esau lost his blessing of the first born son. Still God thereafter blessed him greatly & in the end he was reconciled with his brother Jacob. A happy ending.

ClementofA said:

Esau lost his blessing of the first born son. Still God thereafter blessed him greatly & in the end he was reconciled with his brother Jacob. A happy ending.

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Wrong... It used by paul as an example of a profane attitude which has no respect for God and thinks one can live in disregard of God and still inherit eternal life.
It wont happen .