Will there be the creation of another religion?

[Illuminaughty]

I can see new age UFO / ancient aliens type religions continuing to pop up. The history channel will be their sacred scripture.

 

[durangodawood]

Yes. We will have new religions.
.
But only when we a presented with radically new stimuli.
Such as.
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1. A miracle-working prophet appears
2. Alien communication or encounter
3. The rise of immortality technologies
4. The appearance of genuine artificial intelligence
.
etc.
.

 

[Alexanderdefender]

I can see new age UFO / ancient aliens type religions continuing to pop up. The history channel will be their sacred scripture.

That last part made me laugh , God bless you.

There's a 3 hour documentary by Chris White called Ancient Aliens Debunked. It's quite unbiased, if you're interested.

 

[UnafraidOne]

Yes. We will have new religions.
.
But only when we a presented with radically new stimuli.
Such as.
.
1. A miracle-working prophet appears
2. Alien communication or encounter
3. The rise of immortality technologies
4. The appearance of genuine artificial intelligence
.
etc.
.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep.
A little while before I sleep.
A little smile before I sleep.

 

[durangodawood]

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep.
A little while before I sleep.
A little smile before I sleep.

What do you mean by invoking that poem?
.

 

[Illuminaughty]

That last part made me laugh , God bless you.

There's a 3 hour documentary by Chris White called Ancient Aliens Debunked. It's quite unbiased, if you're interested.

I actually watched some of that on YouTube before.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I actually watched some of that on YouTube before.

To be fair, it's not terribly difficult to debunk the whole "ancient aliens" thing. It's sort of like proving there isn't a giant cyclops living in your closet--just gotta open the door.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[UnafraidOne]

What do you mean by invoking that poem?
.

The woods are lovely dark and deep
And I have promises to keep
A little while before I sleep
A little smile before I sleep


Adapted from, Robert Frost.

 

[Girder of Loins]

Obviously, technology will develop far enough to the point where we become Borgs. Resistance will be futile.

 

[UnafraidOne]

Yes. We will have new religions.
.
But only when we a presented with radically new stimuli.
Such as.
.
1. A miracle-working prophet appears

In any case, while we are on the topic of parables and poems, which may present unspecified meanings, it should be remembered that in Christ's time it did not take miracles to appear for others to believe, but that many did on account of the fact of a testimony of one who told them "come and see, for I have met a man today who knew everything I knew about myself."

 

[UnafraidOne]

To get back to the topic of this thread: Will there be the creation of another religion?

I would think that any religion that is to survive must in spirit actively strive to not only release new adherants from controlling and stifling alternative beliefs but also heavily emphasize personal freedom as it comes to replace the old beliefs with the new religious doctrines.

The difficulty being that the new religion would also need to be nonidentical to the body of scientific facts garnered about the real world as well as incorporate, or at least not contradict, those discoveries.

I think that while Jesus Christ was deeply motivated by a desire to control (he refers multiple times to hell fire) he did have an idea which could survive and be propogated down further through time: That not all truths, scientific for instance, are truths at the present time they are conceived. And furthermore that truth can be brought about first as a concept in the mind of a person and then through events following the invention of the idea, and finally as a result of those of events the realisation of the (original) idea.

Jesus attempts to bring about the kingdom of God, by changing men and women down through the centuries after they are convinced by him to follow his internally generated moral precepts. Thus the parable of the mustard seed, breathtakingly prophetical when compared to what has occurred following his death.

So, while evil, suffering, conflict, probably will always have their place - the concept detailed above seems to me quite beautifully made to fit in with a religion that assures its own existence by granting each individual real freedom, and power (though not over other individuals).

 

[ghetsemane]

So, if I understand what you said, you mean that a religion should allow for people to have their own beliefs?.
Now, is it not what happened since the beginning of the world. New religions sprouted because people had new beliefs that differed from their original religious beliefs?
If that's the case then, doesn't that create confusion. Judging by the profusion of religious sects in the world today, each professing a different set of beliefs and none agreeing with each other, I'd say none seem to have a correct direction, albeit that all may have some truth hidden in their doctrines.

In my view, true religion is the one that has the true precepts that, if abided by, can take man to heaven. Which of all those manmade religions in the world today have those true precepts that can truly take man back to God?

Now, considering that the source of all truth is God. Then a true religion in my view is the one established by God or under His direct authority. So, that religion would have power to bring man back to God if they live its precepts.

Furthermore, there seems to be a conflict between belief and truth. What one believes, may not necessarily be the truth that comes from God, therefore, it is utterly dangerous to come up with our own belief disregarding if it agrees or not with the truth that comes from God.

Since truth come from only one source, it stands to reason, that anywhere we find truth (not just belief), that truth has necessarily to come from God, who is the source of all truth. So, if science has discovered anything that is truth, that truth must necessarily have come from God. By the same token if there is any portion of truth in any religion, that truth must necessarily have come from God too as He is the source of all truth.

Therefore, if we want to know the truth of all things, we need to go straight to the source of all truth, God.

ghetsemane

 

[Zoness]

Now, considering that the source of all truth is God.

What makes that true? The rest of what you say is built on this premise but you'll have to clarify before I am willing to accept. When you say God are you meaning a Christian, personal type God or an impersonal universal force? The latter I am more likely to accept for your argument, the former...not so much.

 

[ghetsemane]

I don't understand very well what you have written. I think it is very simple. Truth is independent of any belief. And it doesn't really matter what you think or accept. Truth is independent of being accepted by you or anyone. Truth is truth and that's final. For example. You look at the sky and see the sun shining. The sun will be shining independent of your philosophy, your belief or your religion. You may even say, "oh, that's an illusion" and come up with a lengthy rethoric to explain your belief about illusion. But the fact remains that the truth is that the sun is shining in the sky illuminating the earth and giving you warmth.

People of every religion, philosophy, and scientific tendencies in the world can see and feel the sun in spite of your belief. They know the truth, in spite of what you say on the contrary.

The same applies to any truth.

On the object of what type of God you believe, it is the same. There is only one God, and independent of your believe of what He is, He is what He is. No amount of philosophy or conjecture from your part will change that. So, it is up to you to find out who He is and do His will. See, it is not God that needs to conform to your belief, but you (and all the rest of us) that must find out what is the truth about Him.

The danger for you and any of us is that if you keep with your belief, and in the end it doesn't align with the truth then you are on your own.

Another concrete example is from Galileo Galilei. This is the man that dared to say that the earth was round. He had found a truth. However, the rest of the world, believed the earth was flat. They believed in a lie. And no matter what they'd say and how hard they believed, that didn't change the truth, the earth is round in spite of their beliefs.

So, in spite of your belief of what God is, all truths come from Him, He is the source of truth, all truth. Therefore, if you or any one is a seeker of truth and not just an argumenter of beliefs, you can find Him.
ghetsemane

 

[Zoness]

Is this God a personal God or no? You speak with a Christian-like absolutism about the concept of God so I am trying to understand where you are coming from.

 

[Mikeb85]

New religions are constantly being created. The most recent ones are Ahmadiyya, Rastafarianism, Scientology, and various other minor cults. Not to mention all the new Christian sects popping up all the time, variations on "New-Age" themes, etc....

 

[Mikeb85]

To be fair, it's not terribly difficult to debunk the whole "ancient aliens" thing. It's sort of like proving there isn't a giant cyclops living in your closet--just gotta open the door.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

To get back to the topic of this thread: Will there be the creation of another religion?

I would think that any religion that is to survive must in spirit actively strive to not only release new adherants from controlling and stifling alternative beliefs but also heavily emphasize personal freedom as it comes to replace the old beliefs with the new religious doctrines.

The only major religion to be founded in the last century was Scientology. I don't think it fits that description at all.

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

The only major religion to be founded in the last century was Scientology.

New religious movements are not that rare, and I wonder why you'd call Scientology a "major religion", seeing how it is often even debated whether it qualifies as a religion at all, or whether it ought to be regarded as a money-making scam.

Plus, there are more Wiccans in the USA than there are Scientologists - and in spite of Gerald Gardner's pretensions of reviving an unadulterated stone age religion, it's pretty much a new religion.

 

[Zoness]

The only major religion to be founded in the last century was Scientology. I don't think it fits that description at all.

Wicca*, Eckankar, Cao Dai, Asatru* and Rastafarianism don't count?

*Marked specifically as identified since both religions are modern reassemblies of ancient pagan religions and not necessarily reconstructionist revivals.


Besides I don't recognize Scientology as a religion, only as a scam and I feel most people who are familiar with it do the same. There were however, several new religions in the last century.