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Let's bring all the numbers to the table, and see what we've got.
All such articles cherry-pick their facts to make their point, but that doesn't debunk those facts.
1.9 times is "almost twice" (unless my math is off).
It's not that the calculation is wrong. The problem is that it is not a meaningful calculation.
According to 2013 USDA data, of the 23 million heads of households receiving food stamps (SNAP)
9.2 million were white
5.9 million were black
So white people are more than 1.5 times as likely to be, in your words, perpetrating "one of the biggest scams around". Go be angry at white people for a while.
I recommend (for anyone, really) reading John Allen Paulos' A Mathematician Reads the Newspaper.
"With the same user-friendly, quirky, and perceptive approach that made "Innumeracy" a bestseller, John Allen Paulos travels though the pages of the daily newspaper showing how math and numbers are a key element in many of the articles we read every day. From the Senate, SATs, and sex, to crime, celebrities, and cults, he takes stories that may not seem to involve mathematics at all and demonstrates how a lack of mathematical knowledge can hinder our understanding of them."
It's not that the calculation is wrong. The problem is that it is not a meaningful calculation.
According to 2013 USDA data, of the 23 million heads of households receiving food stamps (SNAP)
9.2 million were white
5.9 million were black
So white people are more than 1.5 times as likely to be, in your words, perpetrating "one of the biggest scams around". Go be angry at white people for a while.
I recommend (for anyone, really) reading John Allen Paulos' A Mathematician Reads the Newspaper.
"With the same user-friendly, quirky, and perceptive approach that made "Innumeracy" a bestseller, John Allen Paulos travels though the pages of the daily newspaper showing how math and numbers are a key element in many of the articles we read every day. From the Senate, SATs, and sex, to crime, celebrities, and cults, he takes stories that may not seem to involve mathematics at all and demonstrates how a lack of mathematical knowledge can hinder our understanding of them."
Re the SNAP thread...
I guess his anger against blacks and racism was too heavily veiled for an idiot like me to see.
I didn't cite different ethnic participation in SNAP.
No, you have it wrong.All such articles cherry-pick their facts to make their point, but that doesn't debunk those facts.
1.9 times is "almost twice" (unless my math is off).
No, you have it wrong.
It's not that a white person is twice as likely to be shot as a black person. It's that a person who is shot is twice as likely to be white than a black person. There's a significant difference between the two statements. Given that white people have a significantly higher population than black people in the US, we would expect there to be a higher number of whites shot by police than black people. So yes, any individual police shooting is going to be more likely to involve a white person than a black person.
What you need to look at is the chances of an individual black or white person getting shot by police. In that case, you see the opposite. An individual black person is more likely to be involved in a police shooting than an individual white person.
No, that's in this thread (and others). I'm trying to see if he can realize why his calculation is wrong by using the exact same math to come up with a result that goes against his cognitive bias instead of agreeing with it. We are always better at catching errors when they go against our biases than when the error tells us something we approve of. And understanding that bias is an important part of being able to guard against it in your own thinking and become better able to know the truth of the matter.
So what is the "truth of the matter"?
So you have an INCREDIBLY violent, small minority of a population suddenly being a representation of the WHOLE community?I'm not. I'm citing black violence as it reflects on the whole black community.
What do you think the government should do about white people? I mean, the KKK and the Westboro Baptist Church both reflect the white community as a whole.I'm not. I'm citing black violence as it reflects on the whole black community.
Iluvatar, trunks2k, and I have been trying to help you find the truth for yourself. Start with iluvatar's questions at the top of this page.
So you have an INCREDIBLY violent, small minority of a population suddenly being a representation of the WHOLE community?
What do you think the government should do about white people? I mean, the KKK and the Westboro Baptist Church both reflect the white community as a whole.
Do you know what percentage of the population is made up by blacks? Do you know why that's important to your argument?
I asked for your opinion, not help with mine.
Sorry, no. You asked for the truth. The truth is independent of opinion.
You can find it if you go about the process with an honest and unbiased mind. If I just give it to you, you'll just reject it. Go back and answer Iluvatar's questions. You'll find it for yourself.
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