Will It Save?

[marshgreencohen]

for instance,someone dies and no one knows except God if he's saved or not,would prayers coming from other people praying to save him will help him to receive salvation though he's deceased?
if he was evil,would prayers save him?
pls support it with scriptures...

 

[Reformationist]

for instance,someone dies and no one knows except God if he's saved or not,would prayers coming from other people praying to save him will help him to receive salvation though he's deceased?

Of course not. God's divine dispensation of salvitic grace is not contingent upon the prayers of man. Our prayers aren't regulative of our own salvation while we're alive so they certainly aren't going to influence whether God grants salvation to someone who has already died.

if he was evil,would prayers save him?

Excepting Jesus, all mankind is evil without the grace of God. In answer, no, no more than they would save him were he "good." Salvation comes exclusively through the grace of God in applying to His elect the merit for Christ's obedience unto death.

God bless

 

[Easystreet]

I know of no Scripture in the accepted canonical writing that support that possibility. I believe there is support in the Apocrypha, and Catholics hold the Apocrypha as canonical. But for the majority of Non-Catholic believer do not accept the Apocrypha as Scripture.

Hope that helps.

 

[Easystreet]

I know of no Scripture in the accepted canonical writing that support that possibility. I believe there is support in the Apocrypha, and Catholics hold the Apocrypha as canonical. But the majority of Non-Catholic believer do not accept the Apocrypha as Scripture.

Now the original KJV included the Apocrypha. King James wanted to keep all sides happy weather or not he personally believed the Apocrypha I do not know.

 

[savedandhappy1]

If yours or someones prayer could save someone after they are dead, wouldn't the parable about the rich man in Hell, and the poor man in Abrahams bossom have a different ending?

The Bible says the only way to Heaven is by confession, repentance and faith we accept the gift of grace for salvation.

If us praying for the dead worked to save them then why can't we pray for those living and saved them? If we could pray and save them then wouldn't we be able to pray and send someone we don't like to Hell?

Romans 10:9. that if you confess with your mouth Jesus {as} Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10. for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

 

[FiveWise]

for instance,someone dies and no one knows except God if he's saved or not,would prayers coming from other people praying to save him will help him to receive salvation though he's deceased?
if he was evil,would prayers save him?
pls support it with scriptures...

No, I do not believe prayers for the dead will have an affect on their salvation. I will use an example. In 2 Samuel 12, David's son is dying. David prays, and weeps, and begs God through prayers and fasting to save his son. But, when his son dies, he stops these things. The servants are confused by this. So, he explains that while his son was alive, he begged God to keep him alive, but once his son had died, God's decision was made, and there was no use to fast and weep over something that's already been decided. I know these verses are talking about a physical death. But, I don't think that spiritual death and physical death are unrelated. I believe spiritual death is the same, we can pray and fast and beg God to save someone, that he would change their hearts to accept him. But, once the decision is made and over, they cannot go back and change it. I don't see anywhere in scripture that would support the opposite. Even Jesus, when he prayed over Lazarus, did not say he was dead.

But, if someone has scripture to point to the contrary, I'd be more than happy to look at it

 

[savedandhappy1]

No, I do not believe prayers for the dead will have an affect on their salvation. I will use an example. In 2 Samuel 12, David's son is dying. David prays, and weeps, and begs God through prayers and fasting to save his son. But, when his son dies, he stops these things. The servants are confused by this. So, he explains that while his son was alive, he begged God to keep him alive, but once his son had died, God's decision was made, and there was no use to fast and weep over something that's already been decided. I know these verses are talking about a physical death. But, I don't think that spiritual death and physical death are unrelated. I believe spiritual death is the same, we can pray and fast and beg God to save someone, that he would change their hearts to accept him. But, once the decision is made and over, they cannot go back and change it. I don't see anywhere in scripture that would support the opposite. Even Jesus, when he prayed over Lazarus, did not say he was dead.

But, if someone has scripture to point to the contrary, I'd be more than happy to look at it

Boy I wish I had said that.

Thank you, I had never thought of it that way, but you seem very wise.

Hoping some it rubs off just because I read your post.

 

[FiveWise]

Boy I wish I had said that.

Thank you, I had never thought of it that way, but you seem very wise.

Hoping some it rubs off just because I read your post.

rofl, thanks! I hope I become wise as well

 

[busterdog]

for instance,someone dies and no one knows except God if he's saved or not,would prayers coming from other people praying to save him will help him to receive salvation though he's deceased?
if he was evil,would prayers save him?
pls support it with scriptures...

When you pray, the Lord hears you outside of our time. Theoretically, it would not be illogical to think that a prayer you pray now would affect something the Lord does a year ago. If the Lord already knows the end from the beginning, He knew last year your prayers today for your friend. Whatever aid your prayers might be, it is impossible to know what effect they would have. So, you just pray and leave it with the Lord.


Is 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

 

[ILUVLIGHT]

Hi Marshgreencohen;

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
There is only one thing that awaits men after death and it is judgement. Those who are saved will not be judged because they wear the righteousness of Christ. If there were second chances after death then the verse above would not be true. It would have to say that after death Judgenment comes only after your sure you don't want Christ.
ILUVLIGHT

 

[hlaltimus]

for instance,someone dies and no one knows except God if he's saved or not,would prayers coming from other people praying to save him will help him to receive salvation though he's deceased?
if he was evil,would prayers save him?
pls support it with scriptures...

The prospect doesn't look very good in this question. I think that it was Finis Jennings Dake, the Bible annotator, who noted that the only instance of a human being praying to another human being, though deceased, in the Bible was the case of the rich man praying to Abraham for mercy in Luke 16, and his prayer got him no where.