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Will God kill others due to our prayers or broken promises?

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Hi I've struggles with OCD for years now and would make promises to God to help with it. I would make a promise like "If I give in to this compulsion then make a mass shooting happen tomorrow". This eventually got involved with everyday life and I promised god that I wouldn't touch and if I did to make a mass shooting happen. Well that night I masturbated and the next day there was a mass shooting. Last night I made a promise not to drink for New Years and asked god to kill my girlfriend if I did. Well I ended up drinking and I'm terrified my girlfriend will die now. Can anyone help me with some scripture or in any way you can? Thank you so much.
 

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Hi I've struggles with OCD for years now and would make promises to God to help with it. I would make a promise like "If I give in to this compulsion then make a mass shooting happen tomorrow". This eventually got involved with everyday life and I promised god that I wouldn't touch and if I did to make a mass shooting happen. Well that night I masturbated and the next day there was a mass shooting. Last night I made a promise not to drink for New Years and asked god to kill my girlfriend if I did. Well I ended up drinking and I'm terrified my girlfriend will die now. Can anyone help me with some scripture or in any way you can? Thank you so much.

If your behaviour were capable of making God do or not do anything at all then you would be God and God would be you. So unless you created everything that is by your words then you are fine.

Please be assured that you cannot make God do anything, you cannot cause mass shootings to happen by what you do in the privacy of your own bedroom, and your girlfriend will not die because you had a drink at New Year. These thoughts are very unpleasant but they are not telling you the truth. Try to remember that you do not need to promise anything to God; it is for God to make promises to us.

The Scripture I would recommend would be Psalm 23; if you learn it by heart and try to remember the words when you are feeling afraid then it might help.

And I would have a word with your doctor; there may be something he or she can do to help.
 
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If your behaviour were capable of making God do or not do anything at all then you would be God and God would be you. So unless you created everything that is by your words then you are fine.

Please be assured that you cannot make God do anything, you cannot cause mass shootings to happen by what you do in the privacy of your own bedroom, and your girlfriend will not die because you had a drink at New Year. These thoughts are very unpleasant but they are not telling you the truth. Try to remember that you do not need to promise anything to God; it is for God to make promises to us.

The Scripture I would recommend would be Psalm 23; if you learn it by heart and try to remember the words when you are feeling afraid then it might help.

And I would have a word with your doctor; there may be something he or she can do to help.
Thank you so much. If god doesn't do what we ask at times then how does prayer work?
 
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Thank you so much. If god doesn't do what we ask at times then how does prayer work?
Prayer works by having faith in the Lord - that is, having faith that God will hear you when you are addressing him. Mind you, prayer doesn't always consist of us asking something from Him, but prayer means simply to talk. Prayer involves thanking God for what you have and for the blessings He's given to you, or you can pray simply to give glory and honor and praise unto Him. Prayer can consist of making intercession for someone on their behalf, or it indeed can be asking for God to give you something - but remember this, God is not going to give you something just because you ask, and He for sure won't give you something that will fulfill the lusts of your flesh. The kind of things God likes to give are those of spiritual, intrinsic blessings - yes, God wants us to be successful and prosperous, but first and foremost He wants us to be obedient unto Him and to draw closely upon Him for everything, understanding that we fail Him everyday and that He never fails us. That is the essence of prayer - praying isn't about trying to get what you want. Prayer is about trying to reach out and be close to God. Think of a relationship between a father and son in which the father has everything the son needs and loves him, providing for him; and the son tries to be close with his father because the son admires and reveres his father, and tries to learn after his father's example.
 
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So there's zero possibility that God would kill someone if I asked for that as punishment?
There's zero possibility that if God killed someone that you asked to be killed, that He killed them because you asked Him to. By asking someone to die, you're placing yourself as a judge upon that person, attempting to usurp for yourself the power of life and death - if your reasoning is, "they broke the law," then you are worthy of the same death because you too have broken the law, being the Law of God. Only He who is without sin is able to cast a stone (a stone that represents judgement) upon a sinner, and none of us are free of sin, except the Lord God. It is He who decides who lives and who dies, never you. Your job, as a Christian, is to pray earnestly for all men and women to come to know and believe on the Lord Jesus to be saved from an eternity in hell. That's your immediate role as God's child - to spread the gospel and try to lead people to God. Jesus said to love your enemies - this is one of the ways we love our enemies.
 
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Besides, God is going to punish YOU for the sins YOU commit, not punish someone else who didn't commit that sin. Also, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself, asking God for such severe consequences for the mistakes you make is vain and foolish - all you simply need to do is 1). Realize that God's mercies are renewed day by day (Lamentations 3:22-23). 2). Asking God for forgiveness by confessing is a part of every Christian's life (1 John 1:9) and knowing that he will forgive you, and 3). Understand that He started a good work in you from the time you were saved and that He will work in you to bring to completion that good work unto the day of redemption (Philippians 1:6).

Life is a struggle, we're all going to fall into sin while yearning after the righteousness of God. There are none that work good in this world and sin not (Ecclesiastes 7:20). And a just man falls seven times and rises up again (Proverbs 24:16). Just pray to get back up and know that God will never stop loving you. :)
 
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I worry that God would kill people in order to punish ME for my sins because I don't want anyone to die. I would feel horrible forever if I caused that.
By taking away someone I love wouldn't that be punishment to me?
 
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By taking away someone I love wouldn't that be punishment to me?
Yeah, that happened to David. God punished David by killing the child he conceived with Bathsheba when he committed adultery with her. I'm not going to say that God isn't going to do that or will do that, because I'm not God and would never want to speak for Him. All we have to go by is the Bible, and there are instances when God does something like that.

But I can tell you this: God's way is perfect (Psalms 18:30), and whatever He decides is perfectly just and holy. God is also a God of mercy, and will forgive you when you are truly sorry with a contrite heart. When you make a mistake or commit a sin, God doesn't want you to condemn yourself like Adam and Eve did when they hid from Him in the garden, nor does He want you to offer Him a burnt offering or sacrifice to atone for you sin. Psalms 51:16-17 says this. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart will He not despise. So, it's not for you to worry about what God will or will not do, because His judgement and ways are far above our judgement and ways; it's simply your job to work at obeying Him, day in and day out, confessing your sins when you make them, and understanding that He's faithful and just to forgive you of your sins. Take up your cross daily and follow after Christ (Luke 9:23). If we sin, we have an advocate with the Father, the Son Christ Jesus (1 John 2:1).

So, my advice is not to sweat it. Work to kill the old man everyday, but don't condemn yourself or others as a punishment for yourself because you've sinned. You have a guilty conscious, and rightfully so, as we all do, because we've all sinned and fallen short of God's glory (Romans 3:23), but all who believe are also saved by grace through faith in Christ, and that not of yourself, it is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8-9). So relax, brother and have faith that God will save you from yourself and will grow you into who He wants you to be.
 
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I promised god that I wouldn't drink and that if I did to kill my girlfriend if I stayed with her. And now you're telling me that he will kill people to punish me. So I'm afraid I have to leave the girl I love or he will kill her.
 
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I promised god that I wouldn't drink and that if I did to kill my girlfriend if I stayed with her. And now you're telling me that he will kill people to punish me. So I'm afraid I have to leave the girl I love or he will kill her.
Friend, all I said is that I'm not going to speak for God, I didn't say God would do that. God is love and is full of mercy, truth and light. Evil does not exist in Him. Just ask Him for forgiveness and try to do better next time, that's all I'm saying. He loves you and wants to forgive you as soon as you ask and He wants you to love yourself and forgive yourself as He loves you and forgives you. Trust me, I struggle with forgiving myself as well when I mess up, but I have to remember that if God has forgiven me, I have to forgive myself too because God is not a liar and if He deems me forgiven, He knows what He's doing. I'm saying not to worry about what God will or will not do, because you'll drive yourself into a mental hospital. I'm simply saying that you must learn to trust God in that He knows what's best. Just trust Him and whatever He decides to do. That's all.

Love and peace to you brother.
 
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And stop making promises to God if you're unsure you can keep them. Actually, just don't make promises to God ever. That's my policy to myself - personally, I just pray and let God know (even though He already knows) that I'm working on whatever sin has me down at that particular time and that I need His help and strength through the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit to overcome it. Trust me, without God, you'll never overcome any sin in your life - it's just not possible. Just trust Him.
 
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Wasn't that in the Old Testament though? I've been told that God doesn't work like that anymore sinc Jesus paid for our sins.
God doesn't change, my friend (Malachi 3:6). However, because the blood of Christ has paid for our sins, we're given the power to become the sons of God (John 1:12). As you read and learn more, you'll realize that the relationship you have with God is one of dependence upon Him, and that you'll find yourself leaning upon His mercy, love, and truth more and more as you go about life. Sometimes He lets you stumble so that you will draw closer to Him. I suggest reading through Proverbs and Psalms sometime if you haven't already.
 
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God doesn't change, my friend (Malachi 3:6). However, because the blood of Christ has paid for our sins, we're given the power to become the sons of God (John 1:12). As you read and learn more, you'll realize that the relationship you have with God is one of dependence upon Him, and that you'll find yourself leaning upon His mercy, love, and truth more and more as you go about life. Sometimes He lets you stumble so that you will draw closer to Him. I suggest reading through Proverbs and Psalms sometime if you haven't already.

What about Ezekiel 18:20?
"The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."

Doesn't this go against some things in the Old Testament?
 
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