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I am really upset today and can't let this go even though I can personally do nothing about it.
Tell me what you think of this.

The Park service has several log cabins that they rent out that is of course fully furnished. So they decide to update the furnishings and install new furniture

"ok wonderful"

So did they donate the older "not new" but very nice and well built furniture and chest and all the older stuff to the homeless, or give to a ministry, or give it to an animal shelter?
NO
They piled it all up in a ditch and lit a match to it and burned it.
 

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I am really upset today and can't let this go even though I can personally do nothing about it.
Tell me what you think of this.

The Park service has several log cabins that they rent out that is of course fully furnished. So they decide to update the furnishings and install new furniture

"ok wonderful"

So did they donate the older "not new" but very nice and well built furniture and chest and all the older stuff to the homeless, or give to a ministry, or give it to an animal shelter?
NO
They piled it all up in a ditch and lit a match to it and burned it.
A waste. I reckon the older stuff was probably better quality too!
 
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A waste. I reckon the older stuff was probably better quality too!
I am sure. I just do not understand wasting things when there are people who would love to have it.
 
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They piled it all up in a ditch and lit a match to it and burned it.
I'm surprised they were allowed an open fire. Can't do that in NY without a permit.

I used to buy roasted chickens at Sam's Club. One day I was there at closing, and there were a couple dozen still unsold. Talking to the guy, he let on that they were headed directly to the dumpster. The law prohibits them from giving them to the poor or to ministries. There had just been a news article on a local woman who created a food ministry for the poor and homeless. She would have loved to get her hands on this source. But no, the law dutifully protects us from ourselves.

I was at Shoprite during fresh corn season, and asked if I could have the huge bag of corn husks, which they would throw out anyway, as compost for my garden. No, they couldn't do that.

In both cases, it must have been liability fears and insurance regulations. Maybe government regs too. In your case, I wonder if part of the motivation is not to upset local merchants by flooding the market with used goods. But that's pretty thin gruel.
 
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I'm surprised they were allowed an open fire. Can't do that in NY without a permit.

I used to buy roasted chickens at Sam's Club. One day I was there at closing, and there were a couple dozen still unsold. Talking to the guy, he let on that they were headed directly to the dumpster. The law prohibits them from giving them to the poor or to ministries. There had just been a news article on a local woman who created a food ministry for the poor and homeless. She would have loved to get her hands on this source. But no, the law dutifully protects us from ourselves.

I was at Shoprite during fresh corn season, and asked if I could have the huge bag of corn husks, which they would throw out anyway, as compost for my garden. No, they couldn't do that.

In both cases, it must have been liability fears and insurance regulations. Maybe government regs too. In your case, I wonder if part of the motivation is not to upset local merchants by flooding the market with used goods. But that's pretty thin gruel.
I don't know out here in the woods. I mean we are pretty lax on things but this is federal government being the river park.
 
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I am sure. I just do not understand wasting things when there are people who would love to have it.
I can understand your feelings. Maybe you could ask someone at the head office. There is the slight chance that the articles were not donation-worthy (e.g., mold, mites). Regardless, you could inform them, that next time they need to get rid of anything, to call you.
 
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I can understand your feelings. Maybe you could ask someone at the head office. There is the slight chance that the articles were not donation-worthy (e.g., mold, mites). Regardless, you could inform them, that next time they need to get rid of anything, to call you.
No they were very nice, heavy and well made.
A person I know was involved in this and they didn't like it either, But they had to do it.
 
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No they were very nice, heavy and well made.
A person I know was involved in this and they didn't like it either, But they had to do it.
Oh. Well, did the articles have to be burned according to them? Could someone (if they had offered, like you) take them away?
 
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Oh. Well, did the articles have to be burned according to them? Could someone (if they had offered, like you) take them away?
No. They refused to give them away. I just don't understand this mentality
 
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I'm not justifying their actions; I'm trying to answer the question asked and conjecture about possible reasons for the furniture to have been burned instead of donated.

Is it possible the furniture was infested?

Is it possible that the furniture was not in a condition that could meet the standards for an ethical donation? The Goodwill, Salvation Army, and other similar charitable organizations are compelled to spend a substantial amount of money every year discarding donated items that they cannot sell. Furniture is especially costly because of its bulk and the expense of transporting and storing it. Donated clothing and other items that are more economical to ship have controversially been sold to developing countries where it is sold rather than given away to the poor, to the detriment of local retailers. Furniture typically isn't because it's too expensive to ship. But a lot of what is donated ends up being burned or hauled to a dump site, at the expense of the charity. For this reason, there's only a few such organizations in Los Angeles (and likely other cities as well, but this is the only one I personally have experience with) that will pick up furniture donations, and it is on the condition that it is fully functional without any significant stains, odors, or potential problems. They ask a series of questions on a donation form to determine its eligibility, and have the movers inspect each piece before loading it onto the truck.

Even very expensive furniture in excellent condition can be challenging to donate. Last year my parents donated a lot of furniture after they moved, and it was a more arduous task than expected. The move was prompted in part by the Skirball Fire that had caused smoke damage to the house, but none of the furniture being donated had any odors, marks, or other problems that would impede it from being sold. Still, most refused the donations. The only ones willing to pick the furniture up were the Jewish Council and Out of the Closet, and both were so booked it was originally going to take two weeks to set up a date. Through the outreach department at our church they did donate some of the furniture to charities, such as a home for teens and young adults who aged out of the foster care system, but it was at their own expense that the furniture was moved.

People will often place ads on Craigslist for items they are giving away for free, with the condition that the person taking the item do the literal heavy lifting and transportation, but that entails answering a lot of emails and texts, making arrangements, and everything else, and sometimes the people who say they will come don't, or they get there and want to inspect the mouth of the gifted horse.

I can definitely see why it might be more cost and time efficient to carefully burn the furniture instead.
 
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I'm surprised they were allowed an open fire. Can't do that in NY without a permit.

I used to buy roasted chickens at Sam's Club. One day I was there at closing, and there were a couple dozen still unsold. Talking to the guy, he let on that they were headed directly to the dumpster. The law prohibits them from giving them to the poor or to ministries. There had just been a news article on a local woman who created a food ministry for the poor and homeless. She would have loved to get her hands on this source. But no, the law dutifully protects us from ourselves.

I was at Shoprite during fresh corn season, and asked if I could have the huge bag of corn husks, which they would throw out anyway, as compost for my garden. No, they couldn't do that.

In both cases, it must have been liability fears and insurance regulations. Maybe government regs too. In your case, I wonder if part of the motivation is not to upset local merchants by flooding the market with used goods. But that's pretty thin gruel.
I agree..... I know that most businesses are required to dispose of equipment to be able to write them off.....There would be penalties for giving them away or selling.
 
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There would be penalties for giving them away...
Giving them away would be like a donation of whatever they are valued at.
 
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I am really upset today and can't let this go even though I can personally do nothing about it.
Tell me what you think of this.

The Park service has several log cabins that they rent out that is of course fully furnished. So they decide to update the furnishings and install new furniture

"ok wonderful"

So did they donate the older "not new" but very nice and well built furniture and chest and all the older stuff to the homeless, or give to a ministry, or give it to an animal shelter?
NO
They piled it all up in a ditch and lit a match to it and burned it.

Most things that happen now in the world I no longer understand.
I think this a total waste but this seems to happen with a range of things, which other people have posted about.
I don't know but was discussing this with my brother today: commonsense simply doesn't seem to be around much anymore.....
 
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