Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

Heb 4:3-13
3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:

"So I swore in My wrath,
They shall not enter My rest,"

although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: "And God rested on the seventh day from all His works"; 5 and again in this place: "They shall not enter My rest." 6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, 7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, "Today," after such a long time, as it has been said:

"Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts."

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience. 12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
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BrightCandle said:

Windmill is only 15 years old, and you are 40 years old, yet your posts sound like you are high on drugs. Jesus didn't make simple things sound complex, He made complex theological concepts simple. The Devil is the one who uses sly sophistry to confuse and obscure truth that is as clear as the noon day sun. A 12 year old child can undertand these words of Jesus: "If you love me, keep my commandments.", and yet those of more mature age cannot understand the same.

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Jesus Is Real said:

Hey you all~
Please hear through this house-wife~

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The Whole Sabbath Rest was all about 'Resting from our own works': Anger, wrath, stife, divisions, debates, unforgiveness, envy and the like. And to Enter In God's Rest,.....which means to believe Christ and then receive His Holy Spirit - to Work With God. For there are many enemies still on our heart land.

And still the enemies are on the land as God is using them to prove our hearts,.....whether we will Obey and Love Him or play with our works again which is the same works as the enemies on the land which are works of Satan. If we show that we love God more than we love our own works of the flesh,....He will teach us how to utterly destroy them from off our Promised Land. Since, even before the World was created, Christ died and got the Victory!!!
No joke!~


Hey BrightCandle~~~

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woobadooba said:

Connie, the Sabbath is about remembering God, and what He had done in creating life itself.

As for resting from sin, I don't want to just rest from it, I want it completely out of my life. In fact, I want it to be completely removed from existence.

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Isa 58:13-14
13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. KJV

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Jesus Is Real said:

Woo,
Yes indeed!

Look how I'm remember God right now!!!
For I am called to say His words not my own! Just like Jesus did!!!

We rest from our own work,.......the sin in us yes.


But it's a Walk of Salvation, just like with Israel,.....God said that He would remove the enemies off the land, little by little,...once we are fruitful and Multiplying.

There is much more to learn in God's Word about His Rest which is Spiritual,.....for we must eat the Whole Lamb!

(in short~)

Hey I"m not 'Sabbath's Enemy' here! LOL
I'm just told you what it really is all about,...it's of the heart - it's Spiritual.

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Jesus Is Real said:

Windmill,

Under the Law: Yes.....we would be dead the moment we were conceived in our mothers womb.
Sacrifice: Jesus is our Sin Offering,....yes. And yes, when we sin we have a place to put it ~under the blood~ when we turn from sin and turn back to the Lord,....as we don't hid our sins from Him - confessing them as we are known about them.

You mean a "damar"
I have indeed Accepted Jesus when He Saved Me!!!

What do you ask? Because I speak about Israel?????

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BrightCandle said:

I shouldn't have accused you of using drugs, please accept my apologies. Its just that the wording and tone of your posts to Windmill reminded me of the hippie gurus that I grew up around when I was a youngster in Berkeley, California.

The whole Law, would entail all of the writings of Moses and the Moral Law of God, written by God. Jesus wrote the moral law (Ten Commandments), with His own finger in stone (permanent), while the rest of the law was dictated to Moses, who wrote it on paper (temporary).

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woobadooba said:

Connie, the Sabbath is about remembering God, and what He had done in creating life itself.

As for resting from sin, I don't want to just rest from it, I want it completely out of my life. In fact, I want it to be completely removed from existence itself.

One more thing about the verse you quoted. If the Sabbath is merely a rest from sin, why then will we worship God from "one Sabbath to another" in the New Jerusalem even after sin is abolished?

"From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the LORD." Isa. 66:23

Hence, the Sabbath day has not been done away with, and never will be.

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Windmill said:

But to tell others who don't keep it everyday to not worry about it, is wrong.

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Windmill said:

He sounds pretty calm

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Jesus Is Real said:

I never said it's done away with?
I forgive you too, for presumming upon me, whom I love in action.

Regarding The Sabbath and New Moon question:
Are you asking me in Peace or in anger?
Honest, which one woo? Remember we have a short history on CF together,....don't
be too quick to answer me. Just the Truth.....*chuckless*

Please no offenses given here. I am not to answer a angry man.....God's Word says not too.

I love you.
Please read the book I sent you.....regarding anger!!!
connie

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BrightCandle said:

The following should bring some balance to your understanding of the holiness of the Sabbath.

1. After working the first six days of the week in creating this earth, the great God rested on the seventh day. (Genesis 2:1-3)
2. This stamped that day as God's rest day, or Sabbath day, as Sabbath day means rest day. To illustrate: When a person is born on a certain day, that day thus becomes his birthday. So when God rested upon the seventh day, that day became His rest, or Sabbath, day.
3. Therefore the seventh day must always be God's Sabbath day. Can you change your birthday from the day on which you were born to one on which you were not born? No. Neither can you change God's rest day to a day on which He did not rest. Hence the seventh day is still God's Sabbath day.
4. The Creator blessed the seventh day. (Genesis 2:3)
5. He sanctified the seventh day. (Exodus 20:11)
6. He made it the Sabbath day in the Garden of Eden. (Genesis 2:1-3)
7. It was made before the fall; hence it is not a type, for types were not introduced till after the fall.
8. Jesus says it was made for man (Mark 2:27), that is, for the race, as the word man is here unlimited; hence, for the Gentile as well as the Jew.
9. It is a memorial of creation. (Exodus 20:11; 31:17) Every time we rest upon the seventh day, as God did at creation, we commemorate that grand event.>
10. It was given to Adam, the head of the human race. (Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3)
11. Hence through him, as our representative, to all nations. (Acts 17:26)
12. It is not a Jewish institution, for it was made 2,300 years before ever there was a Jew.
13. The Bible never calls it the Jewish Sabbath, but always "the Sabbath of the Lord thy God." Men should be cautious how they stigmatize God's holy rest day.
14. Evident reference is made to the Sabbath and the seven-day week all through the patriarchal age. (Genesis 2:1-3; 8:10, 12; 29:27, 28, etc.)
15. It was a part of God's law before Sinai. (Exodus 16:4, 27-29)
16. Then God placed it in the heart of His moral law. (Exodus 20:1-17) Why did He place it there if it was not like the other nine precepts, which all admit to be immutable?
17. The seventh-day Sabbath was commanded by the voice of the living God. (Deuteronomy 4:12, 13)
18. Then He wrote the commandment with His own finger. (Exodus 31:18)
19. He engraved it in the enduring stone, indicating its imperishable nature. (Deuteronomy 5:22)
20. It was sacredly preserved in the ark in the holy of holies. (Deuteronomy 10:1-5)
21. God forbade work upon the Sabbath, even in the most hurrying times. (Exodus 34:21)
22. God destroyed the Israelites in the wilderness because they profaned the Sabbath. (Ezekiel 20:12, 13)
23. It is the sign of the true God, by which we are to know Him from false gods. (Ezekiel 20:20)
24. God promised that Jerusalem should stand forever if the Jews would keep the Sabbath. (Jeremiah 17:24, 25)
25. He sent them into the Babylonish captivity for breaking it. (Nehemiah 13:18)
26. He destroyed Jerusalem for its violation. (Jeremiah 17:27)
27. God has pronounced a special blessing on all the Gentiles who will keep it. (Isaiah 56:6, 7)
28. This is in the prophecy which refers wholly to the Christian dispensation. (See Isaiah 56)
29. God has promised to bless all who keep the Sabbath. (Isaiah 56:2)
30. The Lord requires us to call it "honourable." (Isaiah 58:13) Beware ye who take delight in calling it the "Jewish Sabbath," "a yoke of bondage," etc.
31. After the holy Sabbath has been trodden down "many generations," it is to be restored in the last days. (Isaiah 58:12, 13)
32. All the holy prophets kept the seventh day.
33. > When the Son of God came, He kept the seventh day all His life. (Luke 4:16; John 15:10) Thus He followed His Father's example at creation. Shall we not be safe in following the example of both the Father and the Son?
34. The seventh day is the Lord's day. (See Revelation 1:10; Mark 2:28; Isaiah 58:13; Exodus 20:10)
35. Jesus was Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28), that is, to love and protect it, as the husband is the lord of the wife, to love and cherish her (1 Peter 3:6).
36. He vindicated the Sabbath as a merciful institution designed for man's good. (Mark 2:23-28)
37. Instead of abolishing the Sabbath, He carefully taught how it should be observed. (Matthew 12:1-13)
38. He taught His disciples that they should do nothing upon the Sabbath day but what was "lawful." (Matthew 12:12)
39. He instructed His apostles that the Sabbath should be prayerfully regarded forty years after His resurrection. (Matthew 24:20)
40. The pious women who had been with Jesus carefully kept the seventh day after His death. (Luke 23:56)
41. Thirty years after Christ's resurrection, the Holy Spirit expressly calls it "the sabbath day." (Acts 13:14)
42. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, called it the "sabbath day" in A.D. 45. (Acts 13:27) Did not Paul know? Or shall we believe modern teachers, who affirm that it ceased to be the Sabbath at the resurrection of Christ?
43. Luke, the inspired Christian historian, writing as late as A.D. 62, calls it the "sabbath day." (Acts 13:44)
44. The Gentile converts called it the Sabbath. (Acts 13:42)
45. In the great Christian council, A.D. 49, in the presence of the apostles and thousands of disciples, James calls it the "sabbath day." (Acts 15:21)
46. It was customary to hold prayer meetings upon that day. (Acts 16:13)
47. Paul read the Scriptures in public meetings on that day. (Acts 17:2, 3)
48. It was his custom to preach upon that day. (Acts 17:2, 3)
49. The Book of Acts alone gives a records of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. (See Acts 13:14, 44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4, 11)>
50. There was never any dispute between the Christians and the Jews about the Sabbath day. This is proof that the Christians still observed the same day that the Jews did.
51. In all their accusations against Paul, they never charged him with disregarding the Sabbath day. Why did they not, if he did not keep it?
52. But Paul himself expressly declared that he had kept the law. "Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all." Acts 25:8. How could this be true if he had not kept the Sabbath?
53. The Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament fifty-nine times, and always with respect, bearing the same title it had in the Old Testament, "the sabbath day."
54. Not a word is said anywhere in the new Testament about the Sabbath's being abolished, done away, changed, or anything of the kind.
55. God has never given persmission to any man to work upon it. Reader, by what authority do you use the seventh day for common labor?
56. No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, ever did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modern Christians do differently from Bible Christians?
57. There is no record that God has ever removed His blessing or sanctification from the seventh day.
58. As the Sabbath was kept in Eden before the fall, so it will be observed eternally in the new earth after the restitution. (Isaiah 66:22, 23)
59. The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it came from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. (See Exodus 20.) When Jesus began His work, He expressly declared that He had not come to destroy the law. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets." Matthew 5:17.
60. Jesus severely condemned the Pharisees as hypocrites for pretending to love God, while at the same time they made void one of the Ten Commandments by their tradition. The keeping of Sunday is only a tradition of man.

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Rom 14:4-6
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
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Windmill said:

I'm just too confused in this discussion to continue it

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