why will you go to heaven?

[Gerry]

Jesus Paid it all!

 

[franklin]

5th September 2002 at 07:52 PM Help-me-learn said this in Post #1 How many reasons do we have that lets us know we will go to heaven?

I believe the question that needs to be asked is, have you ever wondered why the Old Testament books never speak of an "after-life," and why the New Testament books are silent as to any details of what an "after-life" is like?  Many people believe that heaven is a place that people go to (either physically or spiritually) after death.  We see in the world a very active effort to exalt death and to delude men into believing that death is the way to eternal life in heaven. But scripture teaches something quite different. Scripture teaches that the life we live today is the way to eternal life in heaven, not physical death.  The Bible teaches that heaven is something that comes to you!  There is no passage in scripture which says that heaven is where we go to after physically death. In fact, scripture specifically says that nobody ascends up to heaven!

Is there scripture that says what happens after people physically die? 

Ecclesiastes 12:7, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."




 

 

[jlmizejr76]

14th February 2003 at 04:54 PM franklin said this in Post #22

I believe the question that needs to be asked is, have you ever wondered why the Old Testament books never speak of an "after-life," and why the New Testament books are silent as to any details of what an "after-life" is like?  Many people believe that heaven is a place that people go to (either physically or spiritually) after death.  We see in the world a very active effort to exalt death and to delude men into believing that death is the way to eternal life in heaven. But scripture teaches something quite different. Scripture teaches that the life we live today is the way to eternal life in heaven, not physical death.  The Bible teaches that heaven is something that comes to you!  There is no passage in scripture which says that heaven is where we go to after physically death. In fact, scripture specifically says that nobody ascends up to heaven!

Is there scripture that says what happens after people physically die? 

Ecclesiastes 12:7, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."




 

You are exactly right franklin,  I was reading through these posts waiting for someone to say what you have.  You said it perfectly.  You can gather bits of information from scripture, and come to the conclusion that when you die, you go to the grave and there we will wait for judgement.  Its just like we are asleep.  And those who are living during this time period (judgement day) will be changed in a twinkling of an eye.  If you absolutely need scripture to prove this then I will give it.

Peace to you all

Johnnie

 

[artnalex]

Help-me-learn:

Only God knows for sure whether or not we are going to heaven. HOWEVER, if we believe in Jesus as the Son of God, and ask forgivenes for our sins (and I mean to be contrite) - we can be fairly confident that we are saved.

That is my opinion.

 

[seebs]

5th September 2002 at 07:52 PM Help-me-learn said this in Post #1 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=332546#post332546)

How many reasons do we have that lets us know we will go to heaven?

Oh, I thought you were gonna ask why we'd *want* to, and I was all prepared to argue that there's probably really good coffee shops and stuff.

I don't know that we ever *know*. We *believe*; after all, it's faith. The details are the subject of endless doctrinal debates, and frankly irrelevant. It's not as if, were we to discover that I'm wrong about the coffee shops, we'd all turn around and go home and never talk about God again; whatever the afterlife is like, we don't necessarily gain much by dwelling on it. Right know, we're in a world full of suffering; maybe we should do something about that, and trust God with our futures.