Why we should accept the BoM as True

[Mosiah10_5]

Jesus said "Follow me"

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btw, this seems to be one of the threads Erwin shortened over the weekend when he maintenced the database.

I did not start this thread. My reply in post #1 referenced the OP.
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No, I had the opening post. However, it apparently violated the forum rules by promoting my church, even though I said that I did not intend it as such. Granted, I could have worded things a littles diffrently. What I had basically said was that we could not give reasons for a belief in the Book of Mormon. Only you can do that, through prayer to our Heavenly Father. Only He will answer your prayer, if your are sincere, and ready to recieve the answer. I had said that you cannot take any man's word about it, for no argument that we place can truly convince you. You must convince yourself, and accept God's input in the matter. If you feel He accepts it as True, than it is.

God Bless,
Mosiah10_5

 

[Mosiah10_5]

I'll have to check those websites about which debate tactic you're using here to take my statement out of context of it's original meaning......


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I don't think it was against you personally, but a jibe at the much offered statement against our faith, that "God does not change", but yet, "mormonism" appears to change constantly. He was jibing that according to your statement, God's methods of talking to people had changed. (Please don;t get into heated debate. Both of you are better than than. keep it to friendly converstation[nothing against either of you-mostly a general statement])

God Bless,
Mosiah10_5

 

[stinkyjoe]

I am not mormon, but I know that we Christians generally believe the Bible to contain all the word of God. So, I pose a question. Is there anywhere in the Bible where it says the Book of Mormon is false? I don't know of anywhere.

 

[scraparcs]

Have you tried praying and asking if the Bible is true?

No, but fair's fair. Let me do so and get back to you.

While I'm at it, might as well toss in the Qu'ran and the Tao Te Ching.

 

[Bond Slave]

No, I had the opening post. However, it apparently violated the forum rules by promoting my church, even though I said that I did not intend it as such. Granted, I could have worded things a littles diffrently. What I had basically said was that we could not give reasons for a belief in the Book of Mormon. Only you can do that, through prayer to our Heavenly Father. Only He will answer your prayer, if your are sincere, and ready to recieve the answer. I had said that you cannot take any man's word about it, for no argument that we place can truly convince you. You must convince yourself, and accept God's input in the matter. If you feel He accepts it as True, than it is.

God Bless,
Mosiah10_5

I have certainly asked God a number of times if the bom is true, if j.s. is a prophet, if the church is the one true church, etc. etc. etc. and have been lead out of the mormon faith and given the answer that it is false. Now, some say that God does not want all in His Church, which in and of itself is ludicrous but further on, if it was true, it would make God a liar also.

 

[Bond Slave]

I am not mormon, but I know that we Christians generally believe the Bible to contain all the word of God. So, I pose a question. Is there anywhere in the Bible where it says the Book of Mormon is false? I don't know of anywhere.

Neither does it say buddhism, islam, wicca, etc. is false. What it does do is set up a standard of truth. Anything that does not meet that standard is to be disregarded.

 

[stinkyjoe]

Neither does it say buddhism, islam, wicca, etc. is false. What it does do is set up a standard of truth. Anything that does not meet that standard is to be disregarded.

Okay, what exactly is that standard and why does the Book of Mormon not meet up to it? I have read only part of the Book of Mormon, but it seems to me that it is in harmony with the Bible, at least so far.

 

[A New Dawn]

Okay, what exactly is that standard and why does the Book of Mormon not meet up to it? I have read only part of the Book of Mormon, but it seems to me that it is in harmony with the Bible, at least so far.

It is in harmony with the Bible throughout the whole book. They claim it isn't because they don't believe that God still speaks to us today. They claim that God stopped talking to us at the end of Revelations. Why they arbitrarily draw the line there is beyond me.

 

[gort]

Jenda quote:
It is in harmony with the Bible throughout the whole book. They claim it isn't because they don't believe that God still speaks to us today. They claim that God stopped talking to us at the end of Revelations. Why they arbitrarily draw the line there is beyond me.

I talk to God every day, and He talks to me. I'm sure that you meant your worded statement differently than how it comes across.

Perhaps a thread about prophets and how they are no longer needed would be fun.

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[gort]

Mosiah quote:

I don't think it was against you personally, but a jibe at the much offered statement against our faith, that "God does not change", but yet, "mormonism" appears to change constantly. He was jibing that according to your statement, God's methods of talking to people had changed. (Please don;t get into heated debate. Both of you are better than than. keep it to friendly converstation[nothing against either of you-mostly a general statement])

God Bless,
Mosiah10_5

Not to worry, I did'nt take it personally......smilies are such fun.

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[fatboys]

I have certainly asked God a number of times if the bom is true, if j.s. is a prophet, if the church is the one true church, etc. etc. etc. and have been lead out of the mormon faith and given the answer that it is false. Now, some say that God does not want all in His Church, which in and of itself is ludicrous but further on, if it was true, it would make God a liar also.

FB: Bond I am glad you have asked God for truth. How was this answer manifest to you?

 

[Bond Slave]

Okay, what exactly is that standard and why does the Book of Mormon not meet up to it? I have read only part of the Book of Mormon, but it seems to me that it is in harmony with the Bible, at least so far.

It is in harmony only in that it plagiarizes the Bible. Also, you really need to read about the bom BEFORE the almost four thousand changes were made to it. If you are white then you are "white and delightsome" but if you are dark skinned you are "dark and loathesome." Does that sound like it is in harmony? There are many changes that have been made that make the bom stand out much better for what it really is.

 

[Bond Slave]

FB: Bond I am glad you have asked God for truth. How was this answer manifest to you?

Simple wisdom and assurance that His Word is contained within the Holy Bible. No burning heart.

 

[fatboys]

Simple wisdom and assurance that His Word is contained within the Holy Bible. No burning heart.

FB: So you are saying that you have more wisdom and assurance than myself? How do you know that you are more correct? From my view your wisdom is lacking, and it appears that you are relying on the arm of flesh for a very important event matter. Wouldn't it make more sense to rely on God through the Holy Ghost for truth?

 

[fatboys]

It is in harmony only in that it plagiarizes the Bible. Also, you really need to read about the bom BEFORE the almost four thousand changes were made to it. If you are white then you are "white and delightsome" but if you are dark skinned you are "dark and loathesome." Does that sound like it is in harmony? There are many changes that have been made that make the bom stand out much better for what it really is.

FB: Bond come on. Stop with this shot gun approach at answering a question. Swart or Ammon explain the meaning of Plagiarizing. The Book of Mormon does not, as for te changes, most are punctuation and spelling.

 

[Wrigley]

FB: Bond come on. Stop with this shot gun approach at answering a question. Swart or Ammon explain the meaning of Plagiarizing. The Book of Mormon does not, as for te changes, most are punctuation and spelling.

And the others are what? Unimportant things like font changes?

 

[A New Dawn]

I talk to God every day, and He talks to me. I'm sure that you meant your worded statement differently than how it comes across.

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Exactly. I meant to us collectively, through a prophet. At least the RCC still believes that (in theory), even if they don't practice it.

 

[A New Dawn]

It is in harmony only in that it plagiarizes the Bible. Also, you really need to read about the bom BEFORE the almost four thousand changes were made to it. If you are white then you are "white and delightsome" but if you are dark skinned you are "dark and loathesome." Does that sound like it is in harmony? There are many changes that have been made that make the bom stand out much better for what it really is.

I got it. You start a thread and post some changes from the Book of Mormon that are not punctuation or spelling, and I will post some redaction from the Bible.

 

[Blackmarch]

No, but fair's fair. Let me do so and get back to you.

While I'm at it, might as well toss in the Qu'ran and the Tao Te Ching.

Do so.

 

[Blackmarch]

From what Blackmarch had stated, JS had never prayed to God. Therefore, logic dictates that he never had a realationship with God in the first place.

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Observation: this is probably true to some extent; that he did not have a relationship with God at that time (or at most, not a great one), especially as considered by most religious christians today, and one points out that he was seeking to know which church to join. Why? to come closer to God and be obedient to him, to get that standing with him (which he believed had to be done the way God had commanded people to do). Or in other words to get a relationship or improve whatever relationship he then had.

If he had or felt that he had a good or great relationship with God, why would he have sought to know what was right, or which church to go to?

.... Also, you really need to read about the bom BEFORE the almost four thousand changes were made to it. ...

Wow, you have an original?