Why was Jesus hiding?

[confusedmanxx]

1- Didn't Jesus want to die on the cross?
then what the point of saying that he (judas) better off being born

Mark 14:21
The Son of Man will go just as it is written about Him, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”

2- How did Judas betray Jesus exactly. According to the bible Jesus was hiding from the Romans and the jews.And Judas told them about his location.
Why was Jesus so afraid of being killed by them? after all he wanted to die, so what was then the point of hiding?

 

[Phronema]

Man you have been trolling nonstop. Give it a rest.

 

[confusedmanxx]

Man you have been trolling nonstop. Give it a rest.

I am not trolling. I am doubting some thing and I need answer.
and you are too afraid to answer.

Why Did Jesus says Judas better off not being born and why was Jesus hiding any ways.
If he wanted to die on the cross he should not have hide from the public thus he wouldn't be betrayed, am I right?

1- Hiding from people whome you want them to kill you in order to forgive their sins.
2- *Gets betrayed by one of your friends who gives them your location*
3- *Complain about being betrayed and tells the betrayer you are better off not being born because you betrayed me*

So the Question Jesus wanted to be killed on the cross, Why would he even hide then complain about his location being told by his friend?

 

[Phronema]

If you're really curious about half these questions you're posting you'd seek out the answer yourself instead of presenting it in an argumentative manner. Not a troll? Okay. Well, ya got an answer from me I guess.

 

[confusedmanxx]

If you're really curious about half these questions you're posting you'd seek out the answer yourself instead of presenting it in an argumentative manner. Not a troll? Okay. Well, ya got an answer from me I guess.

I opened the bible and find no Answer of Why Jesus was hiding from the jews and Romans.
Its very confusing to me that Jesus would hide from Romans and jews then complain about Judas betraying him.

 

[Phronema]

I opened the bible and find no Answer of Why Jesus was hiding from the jews and Romans.
Its very confusing to me that Jesus would hide from Romans and jews then complain about Judas betraying him.

Strange.

 

[confusedmanxx]

Strange.

Yes indeed.
Christian says Jesus wanted to die on the cross to be able to forgive the ones who killed him for their sins and us , but at same time I can't find the reason of his hiding. further more we find verse saying Buy a sword and sell a cloak in order to resist the Roman empire.
Luke 22:36
Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you out without purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered. 36“Now,however, He told them, “the one with a purseshould take it, and likewise a bag; and the onewithout a sword should sell his cloak and buy one.

 

[Phronema]

Good luck ! ;D

 

[Lulav]

1- Didn't Jesus want to die on the cross?
then what the point of saying that he (judas) better off being born

Mark 14:21
The Son of Man will go just as it is written about Him, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”

2- How did Judas betray Jesus exactly. According to the bible Jesus was hiding from the Romans and the jews.And Judas told them about his location.
Why was Jesus so afraid of being killed by them? after all he wanted to die, so what was then the point of hiding?

It's not that he didn't but he needed to make sure they didn't try to take him before the right time.

What he was saying there in Mark was that although the timing had to be correct and Judas would betray him to fit that time he was still responsible for selling him out.

He was the Passover Lamb of God and he needed to die at the correct time when the lambs were being slaughtered in the Temple, he was sacrificed on the cross.

 

[Dave-W]

I opened the bible and find no Answer of Why Jesus was hiding from the jews and Romans.

He wasn't hiding.

It is difficult to answer a question based on a false premise.

Its very confusing to me that Jesus would hide from Romans and jews then complain about Judas betraying him.

Another false premise.

Saying that about Judas was not a complaint. It was a statement of fact that the eternal punishment for the sin of betrayal was so severe that not being born would have been infinitely better.

 

[tdidymas]

1- Didn't Jesus want to die on the cross?
then what the point of saying that he (judas) better off being born

Mark 14:21
The Son of Man will go just as it is written about Him, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”

2- How did Judas betray Jesus exactly. According to the bible Jesus was hiding from the Romans and the jews.And Judas told them about his location.
Why was Jesus so afraid of being killed by them? after all he wanted to die, so what was then the point of hiding?

1. Jesus didn't "want" to die on the cross. In anticipating the great suffering, and considering he was leaving the ones he loved, he cried out "Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me. Yet not my will, but thine be done." Therefore it wasn't a desire from a human point of view, it was a submission. His prediction that he was going to die on the cross was a prophecy. The statement "this is going to happen" is not a desire for it to happen.

2. Judas would have been better off not being born because his betrayal of Jesus incurred eternal contempt for him - in fact, he was so hopeless in his remorse that he committed suicide. The betrayal wasn't so much that he led the soldiers to where Jesus was (though that was the action of it), but it was more in the fact that he "shared bread" with Christ and still rejected Him as the spiritual Messiah He was. Judas let his greed for a measly 30 silver coins motivate him to treat Christ as so much human refuse. This was the betrayal.

Finally, Jesus wasn't afraid to die. He submitted to the Father's will, to death on the cross - Phil. 2:8. He was "hiding" because he didn't want to make his death premature. Sometimes in the gospels you will see statements like "he eluded their grasp, because his hour had not yet come." It means he was waiting for the right time. At last, he did not run or hide when the soldiers came, but faced his betrayal and death head-on.
TD

 

[brinny]

I opened the bible and find no Answer of Why Jesus was hiding from the jews and Romans.
Its very confusing to me that Jesus would hide from Romans and jews then complain about Judas betraying him.

How much did you read, exactly?

From what you read, are you taking from THAT that Jesus was afraid of ANYONE, including the Romans or the Jewish leaders?

Did you also read where He said on the cross, 'Father forgive them, for they know not what they do'?

Did you also read that Judas, rather than seek forgiveness from the One he betrayed, of whom he KNEW was the Savior, decided to hang himself rather than seek his forgiveness, and thus enter eternity cursed?

To "fear" man is sin.

Are you saying that Jesus "sinned"?

 

[ViaCrucis]

1- Didn't Jesus want to die on the cross?
then what the point of saying that he (judas) better off being born

Mark 14:21
The Son of Man will go just as it is written about Him, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”

2- How did Judas betray Jesus exactly. According to the bible Jesus was hiding from the Romans and the jews.And Judas told them about his location.
Why was Jesus so afraid of being killed by them? after all he wanted to die, so what was then the point of hiding?

Your answer is in John 7:30. It was time when it was time, until then, it was not the right time.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[confusedmanxx]

Your answer is in John 7:30. It was time when it was time, until then, it was not the right time.

-CryptoLutheran

That verse says no thing special, it says it wasn't his time.
This has no thing to do with Jesus hiding from the Romans and crying not be crucified in the garden of Gethsemane and cursing Judas for betraying him.
- If You want to die for people sin so much why are you hiding and cursing the person who exposed your location [i.e Judas better off not existing]
- Its your fault that you hide, if you want to die so much so you gain the ability to forgive people sin then don't hide. And why the heck do you cry for your other member of the Holy Trinity not to die if its prophesied?

The biblical narrative seems to be poorly written and incoherent.

 

[ViaCrucis]

That verse says no thing special, it says it wasn't his time.

Yep, that's exactly what it says.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[tdidymas]

That verse says no thing special, it says it wasn't his time.
This has no thing to do with Jesus hiding from the Romans and crying not be crucified in the garden of Gethsemane and cursing Judas for betraying him.
- If You want to die for people sin so much why are you hiding and cursing the person who exposed your location [i.e Judas better off not existing]
- Its your fault that you hide, if you want to die so much so you gain the ability to forgive people sin then don't hide. And why the heck do you cry for your other member of the Holy Trinity not to die if its prophesied?

The biblical narrative seems to be poorly written and incoherent.

Ask yourself the question "how did Judas know that Jesus was going to be in the garden?" It may become quite obvious then that Jesus wasn't hiding from Judas nor the soldiers he brought, since Jesus knew in advance that Judas was getting the local force, and that Judas knew Jesus' schedule. The way the text reads, Jesus also knew when Judas was coming with the soldiers. Can you explain how that is hiding?
TD

 

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