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Why was I born with OCD?

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Hi guys,

today isn’t an anxiety reach out,but a question.Why was I born with OCD?,the struggle for someone like me with so many confusing though processes and so much confusion on faith and intrusive thoughts or lies from Satan.

I don’t understand why I have OCD,why,oh why was I born with OCD?
 

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Hi guys,

today isn’t an anxiety reach out,but a question.Why was I born with OCD?,the struggle for someone like me with so many confusing though processes and so much confusion on faith and intrusive thoughts or lies from Satan.

I don’t understand why I have OCD,why,oh why was I born with OCD?

1) God's power is made perfect in weakness.

Bible Gateway passage: 2 Corinthians 12 - New International Version


2) God also wants to conform you to his Image and suffering is often a means to do that. We grow in the fruit of the Spirit when we have to struggle and are tested (well when we pass at least).


3) Maybe there is some kind of future ministry or call on your life that comes from the affliction. The best people to help other people often are those who have had the problem themselves and understand it and empathize with those who are now suffering.
 
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Hi guys,

today isn’t an anxiety reach out,but a question.Why was I born with OCD?,the struggle for someone like me with so many confusing though processes and so much confusion on faith and intrusive thoughts or lies from Satan.

I don’t understand why I have OCD,why,oh why was I born with OCD?
I've had issues with intrusive thoughts in the past. These are the thoughts that come to mind.

When Adam sinned, this sin entered all of creation, and began to cause everything to malfunction and fall apart.

This is millennia later, so I doubt it has much to do with God or the devil.

We just keep falling apart in unique ways more and more so as time passes because of the effects of sin.
 
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There may be a genetic factor with OCD but it could be primarily a result of experiences. In the world we are in right now there is no shortage of reasons to end up with all sorts of problems. For a person of faith intrusive thoughts may be partially from the media that often questions or denounces God and a culture of religious and spiritual skepticism.

For me it helps if I can find something to occupy my mind. Get a book that interests you, hang out with someone, whatever works for you. Exercise is also good. I think movement helps you change your headspace.
 
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There may be a genetic factor with OCD but it could be primarily a result of experiences. In the world we are in right now there is no shortage of reasons to end up with all sorts of problems. For a person of faith intrusive thoughts may be partially from the media that often questions or denounces God and a culture of religious and spiritual skepticism.

For me it helps if I can find something to occupy my mind. Get a book that interests you, hang out with someone, whatever works for you. Exercise is also good. I think movement helps you change your headspace.
I try to do that I’m always afraid that if I don’t constantly think about God,then i start to think “I don’t care about him”.
 
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I try to do that I’m always afraid that if I don’t constantly think about God,then i start to think “I don’t care about him”.
I would constantly listen to the scripture when constantly listening to worship music stopped being effective. I'd keep quoting a passage from Jeremiah about the word being a fire that breaks the rocks to pieces. Eventually all those lines of words and ideas from the bible became three and four dimensional, but this caused the Romans 7 sin to go berzerk - and for some time I couldn't remember any scripture at all like that part of my being was swallowed up. I felt lost and blind.

But long after something happened, it's like that "seed" took root and it was the beginning of finding a remedy on the same level as the surging wave of evil thoughts.

The surging wave is three and four dimensions, but thoughts tend to be constructed in two dimensions, so the remedy on a spiritual level is seeking God on a level that addresses the corruption within our decaying bodies. In that death is swallowed up in victory.

It's not easy, but there is hope.
 
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I try to do that I’m always afraid that if I don’t constantly think about God,then i start to think “I don’t care about him”.
I doubt most ministers would hold themselves to such a standard. Still, it might help to consider that God made everything, so appreciating the world is appreciating God's work. A walk outside to enjoy the trees can be nice. Hanging out with a pet too. I don't have a pet but I know for many it is a great comfort.
 
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God didn’t do this to you. It happened because of you parents and genetics. Now you can with Gods help show Him you can be a success at being a Christian with this. You can prove God for all to see that His grace is enough.
 
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I too have O C D and believe God allows some to have problems such as this for his glory,so he can use us through our weaknesses.
As part of this, it is also (to his glory) part of the characteristics of that particular member of the Bride of Christ as she will be when glorified, when we see God as he is. Not all are of the hand, or of the eye...
 
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I too have O C D and believe God allows some to have problems such as this for his glory,so he can use us through our weaknesses.

What Good can he use me for?,I suffer so many doubts and anxiety attacks,I have bad depression and constant fear,does he want to save me?,Does he love me?,right now I’m even doubting if I’m a Christian,I’m so bewildered with uncertainty that it’s overwhelming
 
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Hi guys,

today isn’t an anxiety reach out,but a question.Why was I born with OCD?,the struggle for someone like me with so many confusing though processes and so much confusion on faith and intrusive thoughts or lies from Satan.

I don’t understand why I have OCD,why,oh why was I born with OCD?

There is only one reason for life on earth - to bring the sinful elect to full holiness so the harvest may begin.

All suffering is either training in righteousness, Heb 12:5-11, to bring the sinful legitimate children to righteousness OR it is a partial judgment, a precursive judgement, upon the reprobate who are NOT the children of GOD: Deuteronomy 32:5 They have acted corruptly toward Him, They are not His children, because of their defect; But are a perverse and crooked generation. OR: their defect is that they are not HIS children...

It is my theological pov that our lives are perfect lives, ie, they include the perfect amount of suffering for the discipline we need for our redemption if we are indeed elect or, for the non-elect, they are the perfect lives to aid in bringing an elect sinner to full holiness as is suggested by Matt 13:27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

28 “ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
[a reference to verses 36-39]

“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ [that is, bring judgement upon them?]

29 “ ‘NO!’ he answered, [postpone the judgement...] ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest.
suggests that the holiness of the sinful elect seed is hastened by their experience of living with the reprobate weeds and learning that they will never repent no matter how much they suffer.

No innocent suffers.
No suffering is wasted.
GOD be praised in all.
 
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There is only one reason for life on earth - to bring the sinful elect to full holiness so the harvest may begin.

All suffering is either training in righteousness, Heb 12:5-11, to bring the sinful legitimate children to righteousness OR it is a partial judgment, a precursive judgement, upon the reprobate who are NOT the children of GOD: Deuteronomy 32:5 They have acted corruptly toward Him, They are not His children, because of their defect; But are a perverse and crooked generation. OR: their defect is that they are not HIS children...

It is my theological pov that our lives are perfect lives, ie, they include the perfect amount of suffering for the discipline we need for our redemption if we are indeed elect or, for the non-elect, they are the perfect lives to aid in bringing an elect sinner to full holiness as is suggested by Matt 13:27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

28 “ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
[a reference to verses 36-39]

“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ [that is, bring judgement upon them?]

29 “ ‘NO!’ he answered, [postpone the judgement...] ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest.
suggests that the holiness of the sinful elect seed is hastened by their experience of living with the reprobate weeds and learning that they will never repent no matter how much they suffer.

No innocent suffers.
No suffering is wasted.
GOD be praised in all.


Does this mean I’m not Gods child?,because if so that would destroy me mentally and emotionally
 
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There is only one reason for life on earth - to bring the sinful elect to full holiness so the harvest may begin.

All suffering is either training in righteousness, Heb 12:5-11, to bring the sinful legitimate children to righteousness OR it is a partial judgment, a precursive judgement, upon the reprobate who are NOT the children of GOD: Deuteronomy 32:5 They have acted corruptly toward Him, They are not His children, because of their defect; But are a perverse and crooked generation. OR: their defect is that they are not HIS children...

It is my theological pov that our lives are perfect lives, ie, they include the perfect amount of suffering for the discipline we need for our redemption if we are indeed elect or, for the non-elect, they are the perfect lives to aid in bringing an elect sinner to full holiness as is suggested by Matt 13:27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

28 “ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
[a reference to verses 36-39]

“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ [that is, bring judgement upon them?]

29 “ ‘NO!’ he answered, [postpone the judgement...] ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest.
suggests that the holiness of the sinful elect seed is hastened by their experience of living with the reprobate weeds and learning that they will never repent no matter how much they suffer.

No innocent suffers.
No suffering is wasted.
GOD be praised in all.

Mr Ted,I’ve looked into the elect many times and that is also something that brings me shiploads of anxiety,I want to be saved and I want to be loved by Jesus and I want to understand.I don’t reject Jesus because I know he is my only hope in this world.nobody and nothing else can help me with my problems except him.
 
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There is only one reason for life on earth - to bring the sinful elect to full holiness so the harvest may begin.

All suffering is either training in righteousness, Heb 12:5-11, to bring the sinful legitimate children to righteousness OR it is a partial judgment, a precursive judgement, upon the reprobate who are NOT the children of GOD: Deuteronomy 32:5 They have acted corruptly toward Him, They are not His children, because of their defect; But are a perverse and crooked generation. OR: their defect is that they are not HIS children...

It is my theological pov that our lives are perfect lives, ie, they include the perfect amount of suffering for the discipline we need for our redemption if we are indeed elect or, for the non-elect, they are the perfect lives to aid in bringing an elect sinner to full holiness as is suggested by Matt 13:27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

28 “ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
[a reference to verses 36-39]

“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ [that is, bring judgement upon them?]

29 “ ‘NO!’ he answered, [postpone the judgement...] ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest.
suggests that the holiness of the sinful elect seed is hastened by their experience of living with the reprobate weeds and learning that they will never repent no matter how much they suffer.

No innocent suffers.
No suffering is wasted.
GOD be praised in all.
Do you then believe that all true believers attain perfection before they die? If not, what do you mean by "to bring them to full holiness"?
 
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Hi guys,

today isn’t an anxiety reach out,but a question.Why was I born with OCD?,the struggle for someone like me with so many confusing though processes and so much confusion on faith and intrusive thoughts or lies from Satan.

I don’t understand why I have OCD,why,oh why was I born with OCD?
Sometimes when we're really struggling with OCD, it's hard to understand why we have it. I think it's important to remember a couple of things; one, it's possible to experience some victory over it and feel better, and two, God can (and does!) use it to make us stronger, more joyful, more trusting in Him, and better at helping others. I've gone up and down with my OCD over the years, but now looking back I can see the good things that have come from working on my OCD. Do you currently have professional help or other support for your OCD?

Also, a blog post you might find helpful: THE INADEQUACY OF OCDers – OCD & CHRISTIANITY. I've found many of the blog posts and information on this site to be encouraging, so you might find it helpful to check it out further!
 
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I don't think anyone is born with OCD. I personally believe OCD is created as a means to cope with some sort of childhood trauma and/or repressed emotion. Maybe it has a genetic component, but I believe it is triggered by something. It doesn't have to be an extreme trauma like violence or abuse or the death of a parent. It can be something like bullying, an overbearing parent, or school pressure. Again, this is my theory, so take it or leave it. But maybe research it, if you're interested. There's information about it online.

Second, like I said in the other thread, I think God uses OCD to teach us to stand in His grace. I have felt horrific guilt due to my OCD, and, as I've come more and more out of it, I've become more and more thankful for God's grace. Those who are forgiven much love much. :)
 
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Mr Ted,I’ve looked into the elect many times and that is also something that brings me shiploads of anxiety,I want to be saved and I want to be loved by Jesus and I want to understand.I don’t reject Jesus because I know he is my only hope in this world.nobody and nothing else can help me with my problems except him.
You seem to have a disconnect between what you want, what you believe and what causes you anxiety...I can't help with this. There seems to be a coterie of trained counsellors on this site you may ask for help at any time.
 
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Do you then believe that all true believers attain perfection before they die? If not, what do you mean by "to bring them to full holiness"?
Yes, full, complete, perfect holiness, ie, total accord with GOD's nature and will and purpose for us either before their death of by, because of, their death. Our holiness is why we are here, what we are to learn here, and is the product of the training in righteousness that all legitimate children go thru, Heb12:1-5, with martyrdom being the most painful discipline of all.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of GOD, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O LORD, holy and true, dost THOU not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
[Notice that they didn't ask “why”, just “how long”.] 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them: and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow-servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Well, from these verses we can see a few things...

First, some people were definitely holy, that is, the ones that had already been martyred. They were ready to go to the judgement. It's also interesting to note that they did not get their white robes before this (like when they became converted or went up to heaven). They got them only after they had made this saving confession of faith unto holiness.

Second, we can see that GOD wasn't ready to call the judgement, even though HE is holy and true and can't abide evil.

Third, we can see part of the reason why GOD wasn't ready to go, to wit: it was necessary that some more of GOD's children be martyred.

Now, the question that comes to mind is: why did they have to be martyred? Why couldn't GOD hold HIS judgement right then and save them from all that torment and pain?

According to Matt 13:28-30 HIS judgement had to be postponed, that is, couldn't happen yet, because some of GOD's children were still unholy, that is, if HE held the judgement right then, they would be condemned too. Therefore, HIS judgement had to be postponed until after they all were martyred, that is, made holy through martyrdom, because that's what it would take for sme of them to become holy. (Sense, reason and the Bible weren’t working for them and neither was GOD's love for them.)

The judgement day will not proceed until all the sinful elect are heaven ready, ie, in complete accord with HIM and HIS call for the judgment or why else must they suffer under the evil of the weeds if not to learn to repudiate them, accept the judgment and so FINALLY come out from among them and touch not their secular worldly uncleanness...

Peter tell us what the criteria for the day of judgement is:
2 Peter 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of GOD. In verse 12, “hasting unto” means “hastening the coming”, as the NIV has it, “speed its coming”. If this is true, then one can not help but wonder how it is possible that we can hasten the coming of the day of GOD's judgement? What part do we have in it?

Well, may I suggest that if it was postponed because of our disobedience (unholiness), then we probably will have to repent of that disobedience and get into all holy conversation and godliness before it will happen.

And for some, being martyred by some of hell's angels (ie, family members, church members, friends etc) is the final kicker for their achieving holiness, their willingness to accept the judgement upon all reprobate (man, woman and child) as just.
 
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