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They don't even have a place to build it yetWhen the folks a the Temple Mount Institute were asked by a Prophecy group directly -
Question: Can you build your temple in 3 1/2 years?
Answer: With today's technology and equipment, Yes.
JLB
And you know what? It isn't going to happen because it is politically impossible.
They don't even have a place to build it yet
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does it need to be on the temple mount? couldn't they build it somewhere else?
These things have already occurred. However since you have a "futurist view" you either don't know it or don't receive it.
That was John Levi of Gishala. Josephus recorded the event.
I guess it's possible to hold this type of view......if you turn a blind eye to scripture.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Matt 24 and Luke 21 are the same events. I guess if you don't pay attention to detail or have any insight to the truth, you could mistake Matt 24 and Luke 21 to be talking about the same thing.
Try reading them carefully and pay attention to detail........and then you will have understanding.
They are talking of the same event
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What the sign?
Matt 24:3......and what? the Sign
Mark 13:4.....and what? the Sign...
Luke 21:7.....and what? the Sign.....
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It says "In the visions of God"...so it's a vision.
As you read Ezekiel...you come to 43:10-12:
10 “As for you, son of man, describe the temple to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities; and let them measure the plan.
11If they are ashamed of all that they have done, make known to them the design of the house, its structure, its exits, its entrances, all its designs, all its statutes, and all its laws. And write it in their sight, so that they may observe its whole design and all its statutes and do them.
12 This is the law of the house: its entire area on the top of the mountain all around shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the house.
When was Israel ever ashamed? They never were! They went on to crucify Christ.
Originally Posted by ebedmelechIt's a prophecy that was fulfilled in 70 A.D.
Show me any "coming of the Lord" in the OT that was physical.
Christ did come at least one time in the Old Testament; He was with the 3 in the furnace when the King came to check.....
King N. said he saw four men..... the three that were there before, and a fourth like the "Son of God"
The twisted propaganda version of the NEW King James FALSELY (intentionally) says he saw the fourth as "a Son of the GODS".
That little "s" changes the ENTIRE BIBLE. May the Lord rebuke whoever intentionally changed that to deceive us.
That was Christ coming at least 1 time in the OT.
Praise be to Christ
Marantha
Did you know that Babe Ruth had a . 342 lifetime average? Now who would you want on your team? Babe Ruth or Frank Gilmore with a .043 lifetime batting average? How about if we give you Frank and we take Babe for our team. Sense you think it is "hubris" to predict the future. What do you do when you hire a plumber to fix your plumbing. Sense you can not know the future, then you do not know if he is going to be able to do the job or not. You will have to wait to see what the outcome is. Did you know that universities have very exact tests that help them to know the future and predict who will get the job done and who has a good chance of dropping out of school and not being able to finish the program. Do you want me to go on with the endless ways we know and predict the future every day? What about the Wright Brothers? Bottom line is they had the winning formula. No one else could get their math right. That is why they were able to fly, when no one else could. They were able to do what no one else could accomplish, because they had the right formula. The Bible says: "These signs shall follow those that believe". What sort of a average do we have. What are we known for and what sort of a trail do we leave behind us?
That's right Biblewriter you gave your view which flatly ignores the spiritual and symbolic of scripture. Something typical of literal futurist. You say these scripture say what you think you demonstrated. What you really demonstrated was even though it was shown to yo clearly Ezekiel's temple was in heaven...you didn't accept that. That's ok. You're accountable to God how you handle the word, just as I am...so don't be offended. Your answers weren't in line with the word.I left the debate because I gave you a thorough and complete answer, and you flatly refused to accept what the Bible explicitly says. You value your interpretations of the meanings of parts of ten chapters of the New Testament more than most of the last half of the Old Testament. If these chapters in the New Testament explicitly said what you claim they mean, it would be different. But I clearly demonstrated that your conclusions about their meanings are only interpretations of what they say, not what they say. I also clearly demonstrated that there are other possible interpretations of these same passages that do not contradict any other passage in the word of God.
Go right ahead...but put this down...I will continue to value, and to teach, the explicitly sated word of God over the interpretations of those who do not want to believe what God explicitly said. If the explicit words of the Bible mean nothing to you, than I have no more to say.
I do. I just don't dismiss history in favor of the future...I look at both. You might try that.I guess it's possible to hold this type of view......if you turn a blind eye to scripture.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Matt 24 and Luke 21 are the same events. I guess if you don't pay attention to detail or have any insight to the truth, you could mistake Matt 24 and Luke 21 to be talking about the same thing.
Try reading them carefully and pay attention to detail........and then you will have understanding.
That is not a "coming"...that is a "theophiny" (a pre-incarnate appearing of Christ).Originally Posted by ebedmelechIt's a prophecy that was fulfilled in 70 A.D.
Show me any "coming of the Lord" in the OT that was physical.
Christ did come at least one time in the Old Testament; He was with the 3 in the furnace when the King came to check.....
King N. said he saw four men..... the three that were there before, and a fourth like the "Son of God"
The twisted propaganda version of the NEW King James FALSELY (intentionally) says he saw the fourth as "a Son of the GODS".
That little "s" changes the ENTIRE BIBLE. May the Lord rebuke whoever intentionally changed that to deceive us.
That was Christ coming at least 1 time in the OT.
Praise be to Christ
Marantha
even though it was shown to yo clearly Ezekiel's temple was in heaven...you didn't accept that.
That's ok. You're accountable to God how you handle the word, just as I am...so don't be offended. Your answers weren't in line with the word.
Go right ahead...but put this down...
Just because you think what you say is "explicit" doesn't mean it is...and please realize what Peter said "it's no one's private interpretation"...it's men inspired of God.
You ignore the spiritual...I'm glad Paul and Peter doesn't!
That is not a "coming"...that is a "theophiny" (a pre-incarnate appearing of Christ).
*Jesus also came to see Abraham and tell Him of Isaac's birth.
*Jesus also appeared to Joshua.
They are not "comings" they are appearances. If you will notice when the Lord "comes" it's usually associated with mountians quaking, smoke, and dark clouds...
Like when He came to Mount Sinai...Exodus 19:18-20
18 Now Mount Sinai was all in smoke because the Lord descended upon it in fire; and its smoke ascended like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked violently.
19 When the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke and God answered him with thunder.
20 The Lord came down on Mount Sinai, to the top of the mountain; and the Lord called Moses to the top of the mountain, and Moses went up.
That's the Lord coming.
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