Why the hypocrisy?

[PhantomofRPGN]

I live in Texas, down in the bible belt, where Christian values are "Most common", and yet, I feel completely hated. I am Jewish, and everyone where I live in my school treats me awfully, usually insulting my specific Faith or other things relating to such. This is a 90% thing, where most of 'em do it (There are some who truly follow the rules you folks stand by, and one of those folks is my role-model for how I should act, as he is such a good person), and the odds of a change in a person is rare.

I avoid bothering these people with specific cause, as they just hate me without cause aside from religion in the first place (I know for a fact it is my faith that annoys some of them, as they were pretty friendly in most cases before some teacher bone-headedly asks me to answer a certain question because "I'm Jewish" and apparently know the answer to all possible OT questions). Heck, even in classes, I have trouble. Whenever discussion turns to the NT, multiple classmates and even a few teachers have tried to "Trip me up" to prove I am wrong in my beliefs as a Jew. I can't understand how one religion as a whole, at least towards me, can be so rude.

I know I don't insult their religion, as I avoid answering religious questions when possible, and never make religious jokes about them (Something they seem fine with doing against me), which I find quite appalling. Heck, I only have this issue with the CHRISTIAN populace! When it comes to the few local muslims, we are all incredibly friendly (Though I get the idea they get similiar insults from the Christians in my area). I know my area is not proof of an entire religion, nor of even an entire area of a State, but I still wonder, WHY, among some of the most religious people, Why the hating? I ask you, the folks at CF, because I assume at least one of you lives in a place like this, or has seen such an occurence, and can try to explain why the heck they would do this.

 

[calidog]

I fully agree with you; they are hypocrits to the fullest. It is as though they have forgotten who they are.

Joh 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you shall abide in My love, even as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
Joh 15:11 I have spoken these things to you so that My joy might remain in you and your joy might be full.
Joh 15:12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
Mat 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord! Lord! shall enter the kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in Heaven

Joh 14:21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves Me. And he who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will reveal Myself to him.

 

[porterross]

I live in Texas, down in the bible belt, where Christian values are "Most common", and yet, I feel completely hated. I am Jewish, and everyone where I live in my school treats me awfully, usually insulting my specific Faith or other things relating to such. This is a 90% thing, where most of 'em do it (There are some who truly follow the rules you folks stand by, and one of those folks is my role-model for how I should act, as he is such a good person), and the odds of a change in a person is rare.

I avoid bothering these people with specific cause, as they just hate me without cause aside from religion in the first place (I know for a fact it is my faith that annoys some of them, as they were pretty friendly in most cases before some teacher bone-headedly asks me to answer a certain question because "I'm Jewish" and apparently know the answer to all possible OT questions). Heck, even in classes, I have trouble. Whenever discussion turns to the NT, multiple classmates and even a few teachers have tried to "Trip me up" to prove I am wrong in my beliefs as a Jew. I can't understand how one religion as a whole, at least towards me, can be so rude.

I know I don't insult their religion, as I avoid answering religious questions when possible, and never make religious jokes about them (Something they seem fine with doing against me), which I find quite appalling. Heck, I only have this issue with the CHRISTIAN populace! When it comes to the few local muslims, we are all incredibly friendly (Though I get the idea they get similiar insults from the Christians in my area). I know my area is not proof of an entire religion, nor of even an entire area of a State, but I still wonder, WHY, among some of the most religious people, Why the hating? I ask you, the folks at CF, because I assume at least one of you lives in a place like this, or has seen such an occurence, and can try to explain why the heck they would do this.

They are ignorant, and therefore afraid, of your culture and even more so of what Christ taught and commanded. We are to love one another as He first loved us.

These young people are too much a part of the world and have given in to society's adoration of putting one's self above others and God. I doubt too many of those persecuting you are truly knowledgeable of the Word.

Welcome to CF. Sorry for your suffering. I pray you find better and true Christian treatment here.

 

[junezephyr]

These people are not acting out of love for you, but instead out of the selfishness of human nature. Yes, they are being extremely hypocritical to you, and not following one of the basic tenets of the faith they claim to follow, which is to love one another. It really saddens me to read what you've said, as you don't deserve this kind of treatment, especially from people who claim to love God. Christianity is often misrepresented because of people like this. Christ never condoned hatred.

I think they are doing this for the same reasons that anyone puts another person down. Out of fear, ignorance, or just to "exalt" their own selves. For the same reasons that the "in" crowd makes fun of the "unpopular" crowd in highschools. People have a lack of respect for diversity and can be very close-minded.

Welcome to CF, and I hope you find much more acceptance here from Christians than you have with the ones in your area.

 

[Criada]

I am sorry that you have been treated this way by Christians.
We are all imperfect, and don't always act as we should.
That is not an excuse, just a fact!
God loves you, and so should those who claim to be His people.

Pleae forgive us, and I pray that you will not be treated in this way here!
God bless you.

 

[Merlin]

Hatred of others has nothing to do with Christianity, or religion.
It is just a characteristic (in general) of people since Eve ate that fruit.

 

[tapero]

I live in Texas, down in the bible belt, where Christian values are "Most common", and yet, I feel completely hated. I am Jewish, and everyone where I live in my school treats me awfully, usually insulting my specific Faith or other things relating to such. This is a 90% thing, where most of 'em do it (There are some who truly follow the rules you folks stand by, and one of those folks is my role-model for how I should act, as he is such a good person), and the odds of a change in a person is rare.

I avoid bothering these people with specific cause, as they just hate me without cause aside from religion in the first place (I know for a fact it is my faith that annoys some of them, as they were pretty friendly in most cases before some teacher bone-headedly asks me to answer a certain question because "I'm Jewish" and apparently know the answer to all possible OT questions). Heck, even in classes, I have trouble. Whenever discussion turns to the NT, multiple classmates and even a few teachers have tried to "Trip me up" to prove I am wrong in my beliefs as a Jew. I can't understand how one religion as a whole, at least towards me, can be so rude.

I know I don't insult their religion, as I avoid answering religious questions when possible, and never make religious jokes about them (Something they seem fine with doing against me), which I find quite appalling. Heck, I only have this issue with the CHRISTIAN populace! When it comes to the few local muslims, we are all incredibly friendly (Though I get the idea they get similiar insults from the Christians in my area). I know my area is not proof of an entire religion, nor of even an entire area of a State, but I still wonder, WHY, among some of the most religious people, Why the hating? I ask you, the folks at CF, because I assume at least one of you lives in a place like this, or has seen such an occurence, and can try to explain why the heck they would do this.

Hi, I'm so sorry this happens to you and probably countless others in the world. It's pretty awful.

The why's are many:
prejudice
not christian
baby christian
ignorant of the bible's teachings
willful defiance of the bible's teachings
hate
ad infinitum.

I feel bad too even your teacher puts you on the spot.
I feel bad about it all. It's not right and shouldn't happen but it does.

I'm glad you had that one good example (if I read that correctly), and just try hard to be strong brother. It's a sad sad sick world we live in.

I'm glad you wrote this down, as I can't imagine the pain you go through with this.

There's nothing in the bible teaches people to be like that, so know it's coming from their own reason from one of the above in list.

If you can, tell your teach or guidance counselor about your teacher using you to make light of something or make fun of you. I don't know if you can do that, but it might help.

With others, stay away from them of course and just be friends with like minded people.

I'm so sorry you have to go thru this. It's bullying really, and it isn't right at all.

God bless you,
tapero

 

[hlaltimus]

I live in Texas, down in the bible belt, where Christian values are "Most common", and yet, I feel completely hated. I am Jewish, and everyone where I live in my school treats me awfully, usually insulting my specific Faith or other things relating to such. This is a 90% thing, where most of 'em do it (There are some who truly follow the rules you folks stand by, and one of those folks is my role-model for how I should act, as he is such a good person), and the odds of a change in a person is rare.

I avoid bothering these people with specific cause, as they just hate me without cause aside from religion in the first place (I know for a fact it is my faith that annoys some of them, as they were pretty friendly in most cases before some teacher bone-headedly asks me to answer a certain question because "I'm Jewish" and apparently know the answer to all possible OT questions). Heck, even in classes, I have trouble. Whenever discussion turns to the NT, multiple classmates and even a few teachers have tried to "Trip me up" to prove I am wrong in my beliefs as a Jew. I can't understand how one religion as a whole, at least towards me, can be so rude.

I know I don't insult their religion, as I avoid answering religious questions when possible, and never make religious jokes about them (Something they seem fine with doing against me), which I find quite appalling. Heck, I only have this issue with the CHRISTIAN populace! When it comes to the few local muslims, we are all incredibly friendly (Though I get the idea they get similiar insults from the Christians in my area). I know my area is not proof of an entire religion, nor of even an entire area of a State, but I still wonder, WHY, among some of the most religious people, Why the hating? I ask you, the folks at CF, because I assume at least one of you lives in a place like this, or has seen such an occurence, and can try to explain why the heck they would do this.

HI. For what it is worth, I'll give you part of the reason why you have found so much unchristian behavior among "Christians". It is simple and yet unsuspecting...They aren't necessarily "Christians" at all! Thanks to the advent of "Easy believism" where one can instantly become a "Christian" without any repentance, any sanctification or holiness of life, and an extended form of OSAS, (once saved always saved,) that allows them to live like the devil but supposedly assures them of a celestial home, multitudes flock to this misrepresented "good deal" but will only be very disappointed when such a shabby, counterfeit profession of faith will fail them when they will need it most. I personally believe in the permanency of a true, sound conversion, but there is nothing sound about the conversion experience that I have just described and it is very, very common. It has been a true proverb in any age that..."All that glitters is not gold", and it is especially true in this Laodicean age of lukewarm Christian profession that would have been considered an insult in the days of giants such as Moody, Finney or Spurgeon where professing Christians sat under a gospel preaching that was far more biblically thorough and honest than the steamlined, watered down one that is heard today. This is part of your problem today, but don't let such anti-christian behavior decide your mind for you rather than by personal investigation. If it is Christ who makes a true Christian, than who is responsible for constructing the false one? Right...the devil, and his objective is to use the false item to deflect you from the genuine one. Nobody counterfeits a seven dollar bill because of the absurdity of imitating that which does not exist. Out there are some true, real and loving Christians and they are there not only because they, "read and followed the instructions", but because there really is something to the story about a certain, special Jew who was executed over two thousand years ago outside of the gates of Jerusalem.

 

[tapero]

For the sake of the op.

I know you're not interested but just do want to say that to become a Chrisitan all that is needed is faith in Christ. Alone.

I gave you the reasons below in my other post why some may be treating you this horrible way.

blessings,
tapero

 

[HisArrow]

I'm sorry that you are havingn difficulties. Prejudice and hatred is awefull. Maybe you could have your Rabbi come to your school for a question and answer period. Remind some people that Jesus is a Jew.

 

[heron]

That is so sad. Christians are grafted into the vine... we have no right to cut ourselves off of our own source of faith.

It is simple and yet unsuspecting...They aren't necessarily "Christians" at all!

Notice that many people who grow up Christian have not made the decision to walk in it themselves. I'm not sure how old you are but if you're dealing with students, you're likely to run into people who are resting on their surroundings and haven't faced God on their own.

This problem arose as soon as Christianity started! People can be viciously competitive no matter what you offer them.


Romans 11

God did not thrust away His people whom He foreknew.

Now if the firstfruit is holy, so also the lump. And if the root is holy, so also the branches. But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree were grafted in among them, and became a sharer of the root and the fatness of the olive tree, do not boast against the branches.

But if you do boast, it is not you that bears the root, but the root bears you. You will say then, The branches were broken off that I might be grafted in. Well! For unbelief they were broken off. And you stand by faith. Do not be highminded, but fear.

For if God did not spare the natural branches, fear that it may be He will not spare you either.

And those also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in. For God is able to graft them in again.

For if you were cut out of the natural wild olive tree , and against nature were grafted into a good olive tree , how much more these being according to nature will be grafted into their own olive tree?

For I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be wise within yourselves.

 

[BigNorsk]

You know you ask just such a very good question. May I suggest that the best place to ask it is in the class of that teacher who likes to single you out? I know it can be tough to do so, but often people just never look at themselves. Jesus referred to it as looking for the speck in someone else's eye when you cannot see the plank in your own.

A bit of self reflectance would do them good.

It happens in almost all cultures that we see the dominant religion becomes almost more a matter of culture rather than true faith. It happens with Christian in this country, Jews in Israel, Muslims in the countries where Islam dominates. Often at the same time the minority peoples are actually more devout as a result of the persecution they experience on account of their beliefs.

One big result is that every religion can be accused of hypocrisies and indeed there are many hypocrites who claim each as their own.

I don't know if your school is filled with unbelievers who think themselves Christians or if they just haven't been forced to look at themselves. You would be in a better position to know than I, but I think all would benefit from a discussion of what is true Christianity. You can approach it from the standpoint of someone who isn't that familiar and wants to know, just like you did here. I think you will find it changes things, certainly not everyone or all the time, but I think you will see change if you bring this out and ask for an explanation.

Marv

 

[heron]

It happens in almost all cultures that we see the dominant religion becomes almost more a matter of culture rather than true faith. It happens with Christian in this country, Jews in Israel, Muslims in the countries where Islam dominates. Often at the same time the minority peoples are actually more devout as a result of the persecution they experience on account of their beliefs.

So true!! I find this in microcosms of schools and churches too. It sometimes seems easier to hold one's faith in the clutter of diversity than in a haven of homogeneity.

 

[heron]

even a few teachers have tried to "Trip me up" to prove I am wrong in my beliefs...never make religious jokes about them (Something they seem fine with doing against me)

Been there. Only in one location, but I know how frustrating that can be.

 

[LJSGM]

I live in Texas, down in the bible belt, where Christian values are "Most common", and yet, I feel completely hated. I am Jewish, and everyone where I live in my school treats me awfully, usually insulting my specific Faith or other things relating to such. This is a 90% thing, where most of 'em do it (There are some who truly follow the rules you folks stand by, and one of those folks is my role-model for how I should act, as he is such a good person), and the odds of a change in a person is rare.

I avoid bothering these people with specific cause, as they just hate me without cause aside from religion in the first place (I know for a fact it is my faith that annoys some of them, as they were pretty friendly in most cases before some teacher bone-headedly asks me to answer a certain question because "I'm Jewish" and apparently know the answer to all possible OT questions). Heck, even in classes, I have trouble. Whenever discussion turns to the NT, multiple classmates and even a few teachers have tried to "Trip me up" to prove I am wrong in my beliefs as a Jew. I can't understand how one religion as a whole, at least towards me, can be so rude.

I know I don't insult their religion, as I avoid answering religious questions when possible, and never make religious jokes about them (Something they seem fine with doing against me), which I find quite appalling. Heck, I only have this issue with the CHRISTIAN populace! When it comes to the few local muslims, we are all incredibly friendly (Though I get the idea they get similiar insults from the Christians in my area). I know my area is not proof of an entire religion, nor of even an entire area of a State, but I still wonder, WHY, among some of the most religious people, Why the hating? I ask you, the folks at CF, because I assume at least one of you lives in a place like this, or has seen such an occurence, and can try to explain why the heck they would do this.

Well, that's your first problem... you live in the bible belt That's the last place I'd want to live.

hehe, just joking (had to get back at them, eh?) I'm so bad sometimes.

 

[PhantomofRPGN]

These people know what they are doing is wrong. Every wednesday, they take an hour out of school for "Chapel", where someone gives a speech (Unfortunately, never a very relevant one or anything other then suggesting we read a few verses, which rarely even have something to do with the speech) telling people to do better. It would never work. I just want folks to understand, as I seem to be getting a lot of "All over America" replies and such, I do not know nor claim this to occur over a large area, but it does where I live >.< And of course, there are still some in my area who act as they should (Every year, there is usually 1 senior who you would think has never committed a wrong, considering how well they act, and a few of the teachers are incredibly nice), but by large is my problem ._. Anyways, the Rabbi had come at one point, to teach one of the other classes about Yom Kippur (which I heard went well) and to teach that same class (Earlier in the year) about Hebrew Folk songs. After the Folk time, I asked my Rabbi about them, and he said that they didn't treat him terribly well either when they got a chance to ask questions, only the teacher of that class was different then the one I was in, and was one of the Godlier men I've met.

 

[Key]

I live in Texas, down in the bible belt, where Christian values are "Most common", and yet, I feel completely hated. I am Jewish, and everyone where I live in my school treats me awfully, usually insulting my specific Faith or other things relating to such. This is a 90% thing, where most of 'em do it (There are some who truly follow the rules you folks stand by, and one of those folks is my role-model for how I should act, as he is such a good person), and the odds of a change in a person is rare.

I avoid bothering these people with specific cause, as they just hate me without cause aside from religion in the first place (I know for a fact it is my faith that annoys some of them, as they were pretty friendly in most cases before some teacher bone-headedly asks me to answer a certain question because "I'm Jewish" and apparently know the answer to all possible OT questions). Heck, even in classes, I have trouble. Whenever discussion turns to the NT, multiple classmates and even a few teachers have tried to "Trip me up" to prove I am wrong in my beliefs as a Jew. I can't understand how one religion as a whole, at least towards me, can be so rude.

I know I don't insult their religion, as I avoid answering religious questions when possible, and never make religious jokes about them (Something they seem fine with doing against me), which I find quite appalling. Heck, I only have this issue with the CHRISTIAN populace! When it comes to the few local muslims, we are all incredibly friendly (Though I get the idea they get similiar insults from the Christians in my area). I know my area is not proof of an entire religion, nor of even an entire area of a State, but I still wonder, WHY, among some of the most religious people, Why the hating? I ask you, the folks at CF, because I assume at least one of you lives in a place like this, or has seen such an occurence, and can try to explain why the heck they would do this.

Truth is.. Because they are people.. anyone in the Minority.. is just gonna get the "Treatment" and given some of the anti-Christian things I have seen Jewish people put towards Christians when they have the "floor" (sorta speak).. it is just people..

That is the nature of people... welcome to a fallen world..

Sorry I could not be more helpful...

God Bless

Key

 

[heron]

as I seem to be getting a lot of "All over America" replies and such, I do not know nor claim this to occur over a large area, but it does where I live

I'm up north, where the Jewish population is much more established and respected. Some churches invite Messianic congregations to present during the services, and to join in events.

The Christian population here is generally quieter than in the Bible Belt.

 

[heron]

The sad thing is that basically everyone else in this thread, despite their friendliness, believes that you will suffer in fire for all eternity for not accepting Christ.

Did you ask them?

 

[Deren]

I live in Texas, down in the bible belt, where Christian values are "Most common", and yet, I feel completely hated. I am Jewish, and everyone where I live in my school treats me awfully, usually insulting my specific Faith or other things relating to such. This is a 90% thing, where most of 'em do it (There are some who truly follow the rules you folks stand by, and one of those folks is my role-model for how I should act, as he is such a good person), and the odds of a change in a person is rare.

I avoid bothering these people with specific cause, as they just hate me without cause aside from religion in the first place (I know for a fact it is my faith that annoys some of them, as they were pretty friendly in most cases before some teacher bone-headedly asks me to answer a certain question because "I'm Jewish" and apparently know the answer to all possible OT questions). Heck, even in classes, I have trouble. Whenever discussion turns to the NT, multiple classmates and even a few teachers have tried to "Trip me up" to prove I am wrong in my beliefs as a Jew. I can't understand how one religion as a whole, at least towards me, can be so rude.

I know I don't insult their religion, as I avoid answering religious questions when possible, and never make religious jokes about them (Something they seem fine with doing against me), which I find quite appalling. Heck, I only have this issue with the CHRISTIAN populace! When it comes to the few local muslims, we are all incredibly friendly (Though I get the idea they get similiar insults from the Christians in my area). I know my area is not proof of an entire religion, nor of even an entire area of a State, but I still wonder, WHY, among some of the most religious people, Why the hating? I ask you, the folks at CF, because I assume at least one of you lives in a place like this, or has seen such an occurence, and can try to explain why the heck they would do this.

Let me first say that I live in Texas too. Fort Worth to be exact. And frankly, I don't know what you're talking about. I came here better than a decade ago, did the seminary thing, and have visited plenty of churches, and have know several different kinds of Christians, and not one time have I ever heard anyone ever imply or state that they hated Jews. Now, maybe there are a few idiots that you've encountered along the way that are anti-Semitic. But, to come here and ask why Christians hate Jews in the generalized, blanketed accusation that you have is probably more hateful than whatever it is that you're alluding to. So, unless you can be a whole lot more specific as to what you're talking about, I think you owe the Christians here an apology.