Why so many athiests here?

[Renton405]

I am curious. If you athiests don't believe in God and don't care about the bible why are you here posting on a forum geared towards christianity?

You come to this forum and mock christianity knowing that you are coming into a chrisitian forum. Dosen't sound right to me. Sounds like someone needs to prove themselves. Or deep down they do worry and realize there is a God and are in denial about it. And the only way they can release tension from this denial is to argue with other christians and put down their beliefs in order to confirm themselves..

Its obvious you have some sort of impulse to come here.. So why do you come here non-christian? anger? Denial? hatred? for a community that claims to know so much about reason and common sense you don't look too comfortable with yourselves. At least christians are comfortable with their beliefs and trust in Christs promises, all you seem to do is argue about them. Why do you bother if your so sure about your athiesm? Ever take to look at athiest countrys like China and Russia? Sure you think it is truely the utopia you believed? All you non-christians who don't wanna hear about sin and hell, why don't you just leave? You come to a christian forum and you don't expect to hear things about heaven, hell and sin? your not fooling anybody...

 

[Allister]

Because Christianity is the main religious and cultural influence in Western society. It is a relevant and important topic and therefore should be discussed and debated.

 

[Renton405]

Theres a thing called seperation of Church and State. Its not as big as an influence as you think. And before you start poiinting fingers just remember that Pagans and athiest communists have killed more people than Christians ever have..

If you don't wanna hear about sin and hell just go to another forum geared toward athiests..Whats gonna happen is gonna happen, you can't do anything about it. Its obvious there is some personal insecurity if theres an athiest in a christianforums argueing and calling other christians bigots or slanderers..

 

[Lynden1000]

I am curious. If you athiests don't believe in God and don't care about the bible why are you here posting on a forum geared towards christianity?

You come to this forum and mock christianity knowing that you are coming into a chrisitian forum. Dosen't sound right to me. Sounds like someone needs to prove themselves. Or deep down they do worry and realize there is a God and are in denial about it. And the only way they can release tension from this denial is to argue with other christians and put down their beliefs in order to confirm themselves..

Its obvious you have some sort of impulse to come here.. So why do you come here non-christian? anger? Denial? hatred? for a community that claims to know so much about reason and common sense you don't look too comfortable with yourselves. At least christians are comfortable with their beliefs and trust in Christs promises, all you seem to do is argue about them. Why do you bother if your so sure about your athiesm? Ever take to look at athiest countrys like China and Russia? Sure you think it is truely the utopia you believed? All you non-christians who don't wanna hear about sin and hell, why don't you just leave? You come to a christian forum and you don't expect to hear things about heaven, hell and sin? your not fooling anybody...

If you think someone's beliefs are incorrect, you want to help them see the light. What's wrong with that?

 

[Cheri67]

Although I see your point Lynden, and its a worthy effort all in all..

I personally have never seen that happen..Ive seen it turn into a huge mess of spiteful words and pushin another actually more away from the original intent. And thats on BOTH sides...

 

[Voegelin]

Nietzsche wrote that Christianity could never be erdicated by attacking revelation, that the only way to destroy it was to attack Christian morality.

Any more questions?

 

[selfinflikted]

I come here for the debate - especially the homosexual ones. Since I'm gay, it holds a certain relevance in my life. These are debate forums, in case you missed that. Oh, and by the way, it's "atheist" not "athiest".

 

[chaz345]

If you think someone's beliefs are incorrect, you want to help them see the light. What's wrong with that?

Then why do some many atheists attack Christians for the way that they share their faith or for the fact that they do it at all?

Seems a little hypocritical to, on one hand say'I'm sick of you darn Christians constantly trying to shove your beliefs down everyone else's throat" and then on the other claim to be showing them that your belief system, of lack thereof is the way.

Many of the self described atheists here demonstrate such a lack of knoweledge about what Christianity really is that they aren''t even qualified to disagree with it anyway, How can one honestly disagree with something that they haven't even bothered to try to understand?

 

[SimplyMe]

Nietzsche wrote that Christianity could never be erdicated by attacking revelation, that the only way to destroy it was to attack Christian morality.

Any more questions?

Haven't I seen you dispute Nietzsche's philosophies here? Strange that you would now use his as an authority.

 

[wpiman2]

Many of the self described atheists here demonstrate such a lack of knoweledge about what Christianity really is that they aren''t even qualified to disagree with it anyway, How can one honestly disagree with something that they haven't even bothered to try to understand?

I say bring the heathens on. Let's use this forum to convert up and then tithe them.

Are they making you question your faith? I don't see the problem with a little easy witnessing.

 

[SimplyMe]

Then why do some many atheists attack Christians for the way that they share their faith or for the fact that they do it at all?

Seems a little hypocritical to, on one hand say'I'm sick of you darn Christians constantly trying to shove your beliefs down everyone else's throat" and then on the other claim to be showing them that your belief system, of lack thereof is the way.

Many of the self described atheists here demonstrate such a lack of knoweledge about what Christianity really is that they aren''t even qualified to disagree with it anyway, How can one honestly disagree with something that they haven't even bothered to try to understand?

I disagree, I find that most atheists here understand some forms of Christianity far better than those Christians even attempt to understand atheists.

Much of the reason I've seen that atheists "sick of you darn Christians constantly trying to shove your beliefs" is because the Christians aren't actually listening or trying to adapt the message for the atheists; rather the attitude of these "Christians" is "you are evil and you're going to hell, na, na, na, na, na".

 

[ZuZu]

I am curious. If you athiests don't believe in God and don't care about the bible why are you here posting on a forum geared towards christianity?

You come to this forum and mock christianity knowing that you are coming into a chrisitian forum. Dosen't sound right to me. Sounds like someone needs to prove themselves. Or deep down they do worry and realize there is a God and are in denial about it. And the only way they can release tension from this denial is to argue with other christians and put down their beliefs in order to confirm themselves..

Its obvious you have some sort of impulse to come here.. So why do you come here non-christian? anger? Denial? hatred? for a community that claims to know so much about reason and common sense you don't look too comfortable with yourselves. At least christians are comfortable with their beliefs and trust in Christs promises, all you seem to do is argue about them. Why do you bother if your so sure about your athiesm? Ever take to look at athiest countrys like China and Russia? Sure you think it is truely the utopia you believed? All you non-christians who don't wanna hear about sin and hell, why don't you just leave? You come to a christian forum and you don't expect to hear things about heaven, hell and sin? your not fooling anybody...

Atheists aren't the only ones doing the arguing....also, I've noticed that many started out as Christian and since coming here have lost faith....

 

[Paulos23]

I first came here to debate in the C&E forum, I needed a place where people didn't agree with me. I ended up deconverting and confirming that I am an atheist, and this board was a big part of that.

I stay because of friends and to spread what little wisdom I have.

 

[jayem]

The tone of hostility in the OP is inappropriate. How can you learn anything if you only expose yourself to people who think like you do?

Personally, I have an interest in ethical and religious issues. I work for a hospital, and I'm a member of the ethics committee. I participate in several discussion boards, including IIDB, and the different viewpoints I gather from these forums have actually been useful in my committee work. And I just enjoy a good intellectual debate (when I can find one.) It's fun to express and defend your ideas. It focuses and sharpens your thinking.

 

[WatersMoon110]

I first came here to debate in the C&E forum, I needed a place where people didn't agree with me. I ended up deconverting and confirming that I am an atheist, and this board was a big part of that.

I stay because of friends and to spread what little wisdom I have.

I'm not an atheist (obviously), but I also came here to debate in the C&E forum. Then I drifted over here, mostly to lurk. I've really stayed because of all the (hundreds of) threads about homosexuality.

I don't agree (with the OP) that this forum is Christian v. Atheist (round 2 *ding*). There are rational Christians, and irrational ones. And rational and irrational atheists, and people of other religions as well. I think that one has to paint this whole site with pretty broad strokes to believe that there are only Christians, who all hold only one view, and then there are atheists (who likewise must believe the exact opposite of the Christians). There are many different beliefs in this forum and in all of Foru.ms.

 

[poohgirl]

Personally, I have an interest in ethical and religious issues. I work for a hospital, and I'm a member of the ethics committee. I participate in several discussion boards, including IIDB, and the different viewpoints I gather from these forums have actually been useful in my committee work. And I just enjoy a good intellectual debate (when I can find one.) It's fun to express and defend your ideas. It focuses and sharpens your thinking.

Good points! I'm a christian and find what you said to make perfect sense.

 

[Bombila]

I am curious. If you athiests don't believe in God and don't care about the bible why are you here posting on a forum geared towards christianity?

You come to this forum and mock christianity knowing that you are coming into a chrisitian forum. Dosen't sound right to me. Sounds like someone needs to prove themselves. Or deep down they do worry and realize there is a God and are in denial about it. And the only way they can release tension from this denial is to argue with other christians and put down their beliefs in order to confirm themselves..

Its obvious you have some sort of impulse to come here.. So why do you come here non-christian? anger? Denial? hatred? for a community that claims to know so much about reason and common sense you don't look too comfortable with yourselves. At least christians are comfortable with their beliefs and trust in Christs promises, all you seem to do is argue about them. Why do you bother if your so sure about your athiesm? Ever take to look at athiest countrys like China and Russia? Sure you think it is truely the utopia you believed? All you non-christians who don't wanna hear about sin and hell, why don't you just leave? You come to a christian forum and you don't expect to hear things about heaven, hell and sin? your not fooling anybody...

There are lots of reasons to debate with Christians; some have been pointed out to you already. Also, quite a few of the boards in foru.ms are dedicated to Christians debating other Christians, all they seem to do is argue about it - are they not comfortable with their Christianity?

How is it possible, being you seem to be so concerned with the presence of atheists in foru.ms, and have been posting to atheists for quite some time, that you've never managed to learn how to spell 'atheist'? I can spell 'Christian' correctly.

Who says we don't want to hear about heaven, hell and sin? Mythology is usually interesting; it illustrates the human condition and illuminates human behaviour in interesting ways. We aren't trying to 'fool' anybody, we're here to converse, debate, learn, teach, debunk, and occasionally have a little fun.

 

[wpiman2]

Why would you not want your faith to be challenged?

 

[Phred]

I am curious. If you athiests don't believe in God and don't care about the bible why are you here posting on a forum geared towards christianity?

What made you decide to try and take over the U.S. government? If you think that your faith is good enough for all of us then guess what? This is going to happen... you're going to stir up the rest of us who don't happen to agree.

You come to this forum and mock christianity knowing that you are coming into a chrisitian forum.

You decided that your faith and your ideals and your conservative bigotry was the way things should be. So you lied and cheated and scared people and got yourself a president elected. And you screwed up the greatest country in the world. And you're whining about us coming to a forum to vent about it?

Dosen't sound right to me.

Maybe you should have thought about that before you crawled out of your cave and decided you knew best for everyone.

Sounds like someone needs to prove themselves. Or deep down they do worry and realize there is a God and are in denial about it. And the only way they can release tension from this denial is to argue with other christians and put down their beliefs in order to confirm themselves..

You'd never have heard a thing from atheists or anyone else if you hadn't started up with this political nonsense. But when every third word out of a candidate's mouth is faith-this and God-that well, you got my attention all right. And a wise person had better know what his opponents are thinking. So I'm here Renton. Are you thinking?

Its obvious you have some sort of impulse to come here.. So why do you come here non-christian? anger? Denial? hatred? for a community that claims to know so much about reason and common sense you don't look too comfortable with yourselves. At least christians are comfortable with their beliefs and trust in Christs promises, all you seem to do is argue about them.

It's obvious to me, and many others here, that you do NOT live up to the religion you claim to follow. If you're so comfortable with your faith why do you require an insulated environment in which to pat yourselves on the back all the time? Watching you consistently display hatred instead of love is like watching a misprint of Christianity for Dummies. Do the opposite of this book and you'll have it right.

Why do you bother if your so sure about your athiesm?

Atheism isn't a religion, it's about whether or not there is a god to believe in. If there isn't a god then wouldn't that make following a religion kinda stupid?

Ever take to look at athiest countrys like China and Russia? Sure you think it is truely the utopia you believed?

Never believed anything of the sort Renton. They simply replaced God with the State. The people were still expected to worship.

All you non-christians who don't wanna hear about sin and hell, why don't you just leave? You come to a christian forum and you don't expect to hear things about heaven, hell and sin? your not fooling anybody...

Why did you make me come here then? Why didn't you just leave religion out of politics and keep things that were Caesars his alone? No... not good enough. You had to back a right-wing conservative and get a hunk of this country for yourselves. Well, you wanted it, this came with it. You stirred us up Renton.

Did you really think we'd just sit still while you forced yourself upon us?

 

[selfinflikted]

Why would you not want your faith to be challenged?

Some people's faith is interwoven into the very foundation of who they are - case in point, my parents. I happen to be homosexual, and they are Southern Baptist. You can see how the two don't mix. My mother in particular, doesn't like to discuss homosexuality. I challenge her on her beliefs about gay people every chance I get and I know that she hates it. She's afraid that if I make too much sense, she'll have to challenge what she believes about gay people - and if she does that, she may have to challenge other areas of her belief system also. She has a very tough time doing this, because her whole life is based on christianity. In short, people don't want their beliefs challenged because it may prove them to be wrong, and that could shake the very foundation of who they are as people.