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Why should I want eternal life?

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There is a lot of pain in life. Why should I/everyone want eternal life?

If you ask why life is painful, imagine Job's life. Just I am not as lucky as Job, who had a good life before and after the disasters. I do not want to try to understand what God is doing any more. It just drives me crazy. I just want to be dead. Let everything ends, pain, scariness about what next of God's disaster is...

Can I just ask Him to take this life away so that I can feel no pain? Is there any way out other than suicide?
 
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Eternal life isn't more of the same. It's completely different from what there is now. All the pain, suffering, greed, evil and so on will be gone. There will be a new heaven and a new earth, and no evil.

God placed you on this earth for a reason. I'm sorry you are having such a hard time. Evil in this world causes a lot of suffering, but when Jesus comes again that will change. So why don't we kill ourself, instead of suffering here? If that were the way to God, why would He even bother putting us here? There has to be some sort of reason, something that makes it worth it. Maybe the time spent here changes us, shapes us as God wants. Maybe because God can use us to bring others to Him. It is said in the Bible that God wants everyone to be saved, and that the reason why Jesus hasn't come again yet is because God wants as many as possible to be saved.

Suicide might go against God's plans for you, and there are also other reasons for why suicide is a bad idea. God might consider it a sin, and I know I wouldn't want my last act in this life to be sinful. It also causes a lot of grief to people around you. I know you're having a very hard time, but I'm sure there are people around you who would miss you. Maybe they would even end up blaming themselves, always wondering if it was somehow their fault. Death in itself offers no escape, I believe. Only if God is waiting for you is it an escape. So why force the issue, and not wait on God's timing?

If you don't mind me asking, what is it that is troubling you? Do you have anyone to talk to? I know the internet is a poor substitute for a real conversation, but let me know if you want to talk.
 
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There is a lot of pain in life. Why should I/everyone want eternal life?

If you ask why life is painful, imagine Job's life. Just I am not as lucky as Job, who had a good life before and after the disasters. I do not want to try to understand what God is doing any more. It just drives me crazy. I just want to be dead. Let everything ends, pain, scariness about what next of God's disaster is...

Can I just ask Him to take this life away so that I can feel no pain? Is there any way out other than suicide?
Sorry to hear,

First off we need to keep suicide off the table. It is not an option, never truely know if you are released from pain after doing.

First off this is a sure sign that you are crying for help. I thank you for doing it. I need you to do whatever it takes and find a paster of your church or find a theorpist/councilor to aide you thru this. Pain and suffering can be a massive yoke and it is crushing you. Have to lean on your true friends and trusted love ones right now. Swollow any pride and humble yourself as did here. Get some help, let others help take that burden off your shoulders.

I want you to realize there is force within you that going to keep pushing you to death. This is your sinful nature and it's job is to get us to "drown". It will amplify negitive thoughts and seduce you into thinking one way out. Have to fight it, and learn to listen to your spirit.

Spirit was introduced to me when did self study on selfcontrol. (Galatians 5:16-26)

"25 Since we are living by the Spirit, let us follow the Spirit’s leading in every part of our lives. "
"16 So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives."
" 22 But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control."

It is a very hard to hear voice in my mind. Sometimes it rises to the occation, but for most part it is ignored. I turned my spirit into my personal foreman to give me guidance in difficult times or confusion. I think it is what we call our conquence now of days, a strong sense of responcibility, true, and reason.

It will help you thru the dark seas of the mind.

I want you to realize that your life has meaning, and that you are a beautiful child of God. Just with everything going on, can't claim what is yours.

I come to the conclusion that when the rain comes, it shows you what need to work on. Once you gotten some help and have time, please start moving your foundation from sand to Rock. This way you won't be washed away by the rain.

Luke 6:46-49
Building on a Solid Foundation

46 “So why do you keep calling me ‘Lord, Lord!’ when you don’t do what I say? 47 I will show you what it’s like when someone comes to me, listens to my teaching, and then follows it. 48 It is like a person building a house who digs deep and lays the foundation on solid rock. When the floodwaters rise and break against that house, it stands firm because it is well built. 49 But anyone who hears and doesn’t obey is like a person who builds a house without a foundation. When the floods sweep down against that house, it will collapse into a heap of ruins.”

And lastly, the ultimate reason to overcome your pains and sorrows to attain a victorious life in Jesus then eternal life after. Do it to win over your enemies, the sinful nature and what satan throws at you like he did with Job. Deny them victory, do not give up or in. Use your faith and hope to fight back and reclaim what is yours.
 
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Can I just ask Him to take this life away so that I can feel no pain? Is there any way out other than suicide?

You can ask. Elijah did. But then like Elijah be willing to wait on the Lord.
While you are waiting for that to happen Study up on the pattern Jesus laid out for how we can through Him, have a more abundant life. The goal is to love God with all our hearts, soul and mind and our neighbour as ourselves.

Isn't it funny how our attachments to people, places and things that cause us pain, are harder to give up then our own life, or we feel that it is the only way to escape those things causing that pain.

Ultimately the pain is of our own making (excluding physical pain) brought on by a mindet or perspective on life. Get rid of the mindset or change the perspective and a lot of pain goes away.

God has the right answer for you and you may simply have to act on what He is already telling you.
 
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There is a lot of pain in life. Why should I/everyone want eternal life?

If you ask why life is painful, imagine Job's life. Just I am not as lucky as Job, who had a good life before and after the disasters. I do not want to try to understand what God is doing any more. It just drives me crazy. I just want to be dead. Let everything ends, pain, scariness about what next of God's disaster is...

Can I just ask Him to take this life away so that I can feel no pain? Is there any way out other than suicide?
sounds like you are trying to live with your own will, in your own power.

Surrender everything in your life to God, He will take control, and He will reveal a lot of the answers that you are seeking.

As for the question about wanting eternal life. Wouldn't a prisoner sentenced to life in prison or the death penalty, desire to be set free? Our spirits are in a prison of the flesh. We are always in battle agaisnt what our body wants. It wants to indulge in whatever it can.

I know excatly where you are coming from and I will surely pray for you.

Give it all to Him and have faith. Great things will happen everytime. Never fails.
 
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Thank you all for your support and prayer! I feel much better now. Got depression lately.
It doesn't just up and go away till you learn to take the tools away from sinful nature.

Please feel free come back if it attacks you again. As well as pray to God for his guidance and strength.

Take care
 
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I feel much better now

Thank God, and Thank you for letting us know you are doing better. There is always something to be thankful for--sometimes you just got to look for it.

As we say in the South the 1st thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is to quit diggin'. Stop and be your own cheerleader if you have to or you can pm me anytime and I'll give you a good cheering up.

"Don't ever give up" "Moses was once a basketcase".:)
 
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Do you have a counselor you can speak to about things? Bad stuff is bad enough without trying to deal with it on our own. Having someone to talk to and support us through the bad stuff can make it hurt just a little bit less.

As for eternal life, personally I can't let that be a reason I believe anything. For me, what happens when I'm gone doesn't really do much for what is going on right now. It doesn't make me feel better, it doesn't make something feel worth it right now. I know that doesn't help you with your issues. But I think there are better reasons to believe than because Heaven waits around the corner.
 
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No, I do not have anyone to talk to. I do not think it is good idea to talk to anyone. All Christian friends would just blame me like what Job's 3 friends did to Job. They just make things worse. Nobody can understand me anyway.

Ask myself, is there anything in this world worthy my living on? I cannot find any. But every breath, every moment I am awake, is pain.

I do not want to get up in the morning. But I have to go to work. I do not want to work. But I have to, because I am cursed. I hope one morning I can never wake up again. Then I do not have to get up, I do not have to do things I do not want to, I do not have to fear anything bad will happen again... ... Only in the grave, I can have rest.

'In love, there is no fear'? why? Though God loves me, he still throw disasters onto me. Though he is with me during the disasters like 6 billion other people in the world, he stands there and does nothing, except sometimes he throws more disasters at me. He is abundant in disaster and slow to blessing to me.
 
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I can understand how you feel. Without being unsympathetically philosophical may I point out that you have two immediate options in the way you think.

1. There is no God, or no loving God. That leaves you with emptiness and despair and without hope.

2. You don't understand or appreciate what is going on, but you accept that God is neither indifferent or without acting out of a principle you cannot grasp, but nevertheless you will trust him through all of your pain.

Bless you
John
 
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I can understand how you feel. Without being unsympathetically philosophical may I point out that you have two immediate options in the way you think.

1. There is no God, or no loving God. That leaves you with emptiness and despair and without hope.

2. You don't understand or appreciate what is going on, but you accept that God is neither indifferent or without acting out of a principle you cannot grasp, but nevertheless you will trust him through all of your pain.

Bless you
John
Dear "longfordeath" I agree with Johnnz. Sometimes I am tired to go on too and keep questioning either God's existence of his loving provision and this leaves me in total despair.

But take a look all around you and see the wonder and beauty of all the creation. If God cares for every bit of detail in this universe, then know for sure that he cares for every detail in your life. We have not been thrown into the world accidently or for no reason at all. There is a reason for everything. We may never know the reason for everything that is going on (or going wrong) in our lives( and maybe that is not for us to know), but we have to discover what we can make do with those things that we have.

When one is depressed with life, there follows the inability to see things in an entirely new perspective and possibilities. Remember life may not be all that we think it is, we may be wrong. You might not be able to see what blessings and opportunities and gifts you already have because you are repeating to yourself that you want to reject life. Accept life as it is with all its beauties as well as its ugly parts. This acceptance opens up a whole new perspective for us to see things we had not been able to see before, and then we will be able to go on, not go on carrying this burden of life, but to go on with seeing life as a whole new opportunity to LEARN and CHERISH and SHARING what we have discovered of this wonderous adventure called LIFE to others who have been blinded by this same temporal spiritual affliction.

Life is not easy, but God encourages us to continue this journey, not because someday it will end and we will go to heaven, but because we may learn many things on the way which we can enjoy here and now on this earth, and maybe cherish the memories when we enter heaven.

Cheers and bless you
 
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Hi I'm sorry you have these thoughts. I can relate I a few years back was assaulted and broke my neck now I am in a chair and have never ending pain day and night not exagerating whats more is I have no friends to relay thoughts off from. I know this I pray and cling to God because he is the only hope, with Christ the future is hopeful with everlasting glory and painless joy. To die without Christ true pain and sorrow and torment would begin without end. Sometimes its hard to see but God only wants to help and following him truly is good its hard to see at first because the way we have been trained to think since birth. Allow Christt a chance to help you. Hope this could help some. Grace and Peace to you.
 
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