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Jesus and the Bible says that Hell is a real literal place in the heart of the Earth, (Matthew 12:40, Ephesians 4:9, Isaiah 14:9) eternal torment (torture) worm dieth not (Mark 9:44), facing the full wrath of God it isn’t separation (Revelation 14:10). It is a place created by God (Colossians 1:16, John 1:3) where the wicked souls immediately go to after death (Luke 16:23) and start their eternal conscious torment. (Luke 16:25) Eventually Hell will be thrown into the Lake of Fire after the great white throne judgement (Revelation 20:11-15) and that will be eternal. (Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10, Daniel 12:2, Jude 7)

Why do people reject the biblical fact of Hell? Firstly it isn’t preached to them, the prosperity health and wealth motivational speakers don’t speak on the reality of Hell, they openly admit to not preaching about sin, or the controversial issues, it might scare some people off. They don’t care about saving souls from Hell, the place that Jesus suffered and died shed his blood to save us from, clearly anyone who does would be preaching the reality of Hell to everyone they know to keep people out of it.

Secondly it’s not preached correctly, even if someone preaches Hell they say, well nobody really goes there except those who are really bad like Hitler and Stalin, God is too loving to send people to hell, most people are good people, Or that Hell is actually not eternal, or the wicked are just annihilated, burned up once and that’s it, what the Bible really means when it says eternal punishment is just that the punishment lasts forever but you’re not conscious you just get burned up once. Or the wicked just go to temporary place like purgatory to pay off their sins then enter Heaven.

Or that the wicked just cease to exist at death, there’s no eternal punishment or torment that’s it (they use the word destroy in Matthew 10:28 to teach annihilation theory despite Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10 saying the wicked will go to eternal punishment so the word destroy can’t possibly mean cease to exist) destroy, perish, consume these three words do not mean ceasing to exist like some teach, Hell is eternal punishment is clearly taught in scripture. Not annihilation or ceasing to exist.

Other verses disproving annihilation: 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Jude 13

Or Hell is just seperation from God (whatever that means) they say being separated from God is the worst torment (no you won’t be separated Gods wrath will be on them forever Psalm 139:8)

Other lies you hear about hell: hell is just a state of mind, this earth is hell, hell is empty nobody but Satan goes there and he isn’t in there yet. Or that Hell is run by Satan (no Jesus is control of death and hell, Satan isn’t in hell or the Lake of fire yet his throne is on the Earth) Or that the wicked don’t immediately go to Hell at death, despite the fact that the Rich man went straight to hell. This idea that nobody is in hell yet comes from a misunderstanding of scripture, the fact is there is a place called Hell currently located in the center of the Earth (Matthew 12:40, Ephesians 4:9, Isaiah 14:9) one day they will be resurrected and judged, then death and hell are cast into the Lake of Fire. The current Hell and the Lake of Fire are two seperate places and locations, nobody is in the Lake of Fire yet, they are all in the first Hell awaiting resurrection and judgement. Nowhere in the Bible does it teach soul sleep, or souls sleeping in the grave, when the Bible uses the word sleep it is talking about death, and the physical body, not the soul.

Thirdly people can’t comprehend the reality of eternal torment of Hell so they just reject it, “a loving God would never send his creation to eternal pain in Hell” “well my preacher says that Hell is not really Hell and everybody goes to paradise” the truth is that Gods word clearly says that most people will go to hell no matter what or who anyone else says, and that they fully deserve it, God is just.

Fourthly people believe in doctrines of men not found once in scripture: annihilation, purgatory, or universal salvation, none of this is truly found in the Bible but these are man made doctrines that tickles people’s ears and makes them feel good by lying with Gods word. they take verses in the Bible completely out of context to create their theology, while ignoring the dozens of verses warning about the real literal Hell. This is why it is important to read the entire Bible not just the parts we personally agree with.

Fifthly they believe these different translations of the word Hell: they teach that English Bible versions have falsely used the word Hell for Sheol, Gehenna, Hades, people will take these words from other languages and use them to describe totally different places, people will say oh Sheol just means the grave for instance, Sheol is just a grave, you go to the grave. I guess they use this to believe in annihilation or soul sleep. Then they will take the word Gehenna and say that when the Bible uses Gehenna that means it isn’t really talking about hell, just a place in Jerusalem.

Sixthly (building on the fifth point) they use different translations like Greek and Hebrew to explain away words like eternal, they lie and say it doesn’t really mean eternal. It is easy to deceive people in other languages that they don’t know about. Catholic Church used Latin for hundreds of years, nobody could understand it. Anytime someone says we need to go back to the Greek, Latin or Hebrew for something, that is a red flag, this person is trying to change the meaning of scripture and deceive you in languages you don’t understand. As if God would confuse us enough to have to go to other languages to get the real meaning of his eternal word.

I could go on but I will end here, the point is that Hell is real, it is eternal because the Bible says so, there are no ways around it, those who do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation and they never get saved will be sent there regardless of how good of a person they thought or others thought that they were. We need to spread the truth, wake people up to reality and not give them some feel good motivational message to not risk offending people, this is eternity on the line, people’s souls we can’t play around in our messaging of the gospel.
 

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Jesus and the Bible says that Hell is a real literal place in the heart of the Earth, (Matthew 12:40, Ephesians 4:9, Isaiah 14:9) eternal torment (torture) worm dieth not (Mark 9:44), facing the full wrath of God it isn’t separation (Revelation 14:10). It is a place created by God (Colossians 1:16, John 1:3) where the wicked souls immediately go to after death (Luke 16:23) and start their eternal conscious torment. (Luke 16:25) Eventually Hell will be thrown into the Lake of Fire after the great white throne judgement (Revelation 20:11-15) and that will be eternal. (Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10, Daniel 12:2, Jude 7)

Why do people reject the biblical fact of Hell? Firstly it isn’t preached to them, the prosperity health and wealth motivational speakers don’t speak on the reality of Hell, they openly admit to not preaching about sin, or the controversial issues, it might scare some people off. They don’t care about saving souls from Hell, the place that Jesus suffered and died shed his blood to save us from, clearly anyone who does would be preaching the reality of Hell to everyone they know to keep people out of it.

Secondly it’s not preached correctly, even if someone preaches Hell they say, well nobody really goes there except those who are really bad like Hitler and Stalin, God is too loving to send people to hell, most people are good people, Or that Hell is actually not eternal, or the wicked are just annihilated, burned up once and that’s it, what the Bible really means when it says eternal punishment is just that the punishment lasts forever but you’re not conscious you just get burned up once. Or the wicked just go to temporary place like purgatory to pay off their sins then enter Heaven.

Or that the wicked just cease to exist at death, there’s no eternal punishment or torment that’s it (they use the word destroy in Matthew 10:28 to teach annihilation theory despite Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10 saying the wicked will go to eternal punishment so the word destroy can’t possibly mean cease to exist) destroy, perish, consume these three words do not mean ceasing to exist like some teach, Hell is eternal punishment is clearly taught in scripture. Not annihilation or ceasing to exist.

Other verses disproving annihilation: 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Jude 13

Or Hell is just seperation from God (whatever that means) they say being separated from God is the worst torment (no you won’t be separated Gods wrath will be on them forever Psalm 139:8)

Other lies you hear about hell: hell is just a state of mind, this earth is hell, hell is empty nobody but Satan goes there and he isn’t in there yet. Or that Hell is run by Satan (no Jesus is control of death and hell, Satan isn’t in hell or the Lake of fire yet his throne is on the Earth) Or that the wicked don’t immediately go to Hell at death, despite the fact that the Rich man went straight to hell. This idea that nobody is in hell yet comes from a misunderstanding of scripture, the fact is there is a place called Hell currently located in the center of the Earth (Matthew 12:40, Ephesians 4:9, Isaiah 14:9) one day they will be resurrected and judged, then death and hell are cast into the Lake of Fire. The current Hell and the Lake of Fire are two seperate places and locations, nobody is in the Lake of Fire yet, they are all in the first Hell awaiting resurrection and judgement. Nowhere in the Bible does it teach soul sleep, or souls sleeping in the grave, when the Bible uses the word sleep it is talking about death, and the physical body, not the soul.

Thirdly people can’t comprehend the reality of eternal torment of Hell so they just reject it, “a loving God would never send his creation to eternal pain in Hell” “well my preacher says that Hell is not really Hell and everybody goes to paradise” the truth is that Gods word clearly says that most people will go to hell no matter what or who anyone else says, and that they fully deserve it, God is just.

Fourthly people believe in doctrines of men not found once in scripture: annihilation, purgatory, or universal salvation, none of this is truly found in the Bible but these are man made doctrines that tickles people’s ears and makes them feel good by lying with Gods word. they take verses in the Bible completely out of context to create their theology, while ignoring the dozens of verses warning about the real literal Hell. This is why it is important to read the entire Bible not just the parts we personally agree with.

Fifthly they believe these different translations of the word Hell: they teach that English Bible versions have falsely used the word Hell for Sheol, Gehenna, Hades, people will take these words from other languages and use them to describe totally different places, people will say oh Sheol just means the grave for instance, Sheol is just a grave, you go to the grave. I guess they use this to believe in annihilation or soul sleep. Then they will take the word Gehenna and say that when the Bible uses Gehenna that means it isn’t really talking about hell, just a place in Jerusalem.

Sixthly (building on the fifth point) they use different translations like Greek and Hebrew to explain away words like eternal, they lie and say it doesn’t really mean eternal. It is easy to deceive people in other languages that they don’t know about. Catholic Church used Latin for hundreds of years, nobody could understand it. Anytime someone says we need to go back to the Greek, Latin or Hebrew for something, that is a red flag, this person is trying to change the meaning of scripture and deceive you in languages you don’t understand. As if God would confuse us enough to have to go to other languages to get the real meaning of his eternal word.

I could go on but I will end here, the point is that Hell is real, it is eternal because the Bible says so, there are no ways around it, those who do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation and they never get saved will be sent there regardless of how good of a person they thought or others thought that they were. We need to spread the truth, wake people up to reality and not give them some feel good motivational message to not risk offending people, this is eternity on the line, people’s souls we can’t play around in our messaging of the gospel.
Hell is real and should be avoided. The duration is limited due to the fact God's mercy,grace and compassion lasts forever. Human ignorance can never defeat God's mercy.

"To Him who [earnestly,] remembered us in our low estate and imprinted us[on His heart], for His mercy and loving-kindness endure forever."

Psalms 136:23
 
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Hell is real and should be avoided. The duration is limited due to the fact God's mercy,grace and compassion lasts forever. Human ignorance can never defeat God's mercy.

"To Him who [earnestly,] remembered us in our low estate and imprinted us[on His heart], for His mercy and loving-kindness endure forever."

Psalms 136:23

Indeed and we can add Matt 10:28 where we find that God destroys "both body and soul" in fiery hell.
And in Luke 12 we see that God has some who receive "many stripes" in God's punishment of the wicked - while others receive "few" depending on what they knew and what they did.
 
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Jesus and the Bible says that Hell is a real literal place in the heart of the Earth, (Matthew 12:40, Ephesians 4:9, Isaiah 14:9) eternal torment (torture) worm dieth not (Mark 9:44), facing the full wrath of God it isn’t separation (Revelation 14:10). It is a place created by God (Colossians 1:16, John 1:3) where the wicked souls immediately go to after death (Luke 16:23) and start their eternal conscious torment. (Luke 16:25) Eventually Hell will be thrown into the Lake of Fire after the great white throne judgement (Revelation 20:11-15) and that will be eternal. (Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10, Daniel 12:2, Jude 7)

Why do people reject the biblical fact of Hell? Firstly it isn’t preached to them, the prosperity health and wealth motivational speakers don’t speak on the reality of Hell, they openly admit to not preaching about sin, or the controversial issues, it might scare some people off. They don’t care about saving souls from Hell, the place that Jesus suffered and died shed his blood to save us from, clearly anyone who does would be preaching the reality of Hell to everyone they know to keep people out of it.

Secondly it’s not preached correctly, even if someone preaches Hell they say, well nobody really goes there except those who are really bad like Hitler and Stalin, God is too loving to send people to hell, most people are good people, Or that Hell is actually not eternal, or the wicked are just annihilated, burned up once and that’s it, what the Bible really means when it says eternal punishment is just that the punishment lasts forever but you’re not conscious you just get burned up once. Or the wicked just go to temporary place like purgatory to pay off their sins then enter Heaven.

Or that the wicked just cease to exist at death, there’s no eternal punishment or torment that’s it (they use the word destroy in Matthew 10:28 to teach annihilation theory despite Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10 saying the wicked will go to eternal punishment so the word destroy can’t possibly mean cease to exist) destroy, perish, consume these three words do not mean ceasing to exist like some teach, Hell is eternal punishment is clearly taught in scripture. Not annihilation or ceasing to exist.

Other verses disproving annihilation: 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Jude 13

Or Hell is just seperation from God (whatever that means) they say being separated from God is the worst torment (no you won’t be separated Gods wrath will be on them forever Psalm 139:8)

Other lies you hear about hell: hell is just a state of mind, this earth is hell, hell is empty nobody but Satan goes there and he isn’t in there yet. Or that Hell is run by Satan (no Jesus is control of death and hell, Satan isn’t in hell or the Lake of fire yet his throne is on the Earth) Or that the wicked don’t immediately go to Hell at death, despite the fact that the Rich man went straight to hell. This idea that nobody is in hell yet comes from a misunderstanding of scripture, the fact is there is a place called Hell currently located in the center of the Earth (Matthew 12:40, Ephesians 4:9, Isaiah 14:9) one day they will be resurrected and judged, then death and hell are cast into the Lake of Fire. The current Hell and the Lake of Fire are two seperate places and locations, nobody is in the Lake of Fire yet, they are all in the first Hell awaiting resurrection and judgement. Nowhere in the Bible does it teach soul sleep, or souls sleeping in the grave, when the Bible uses the word sleep it is talking about death, and the physical body, not the soul.

Thirdly people can’t comprehend the reality of eternal torment of Hell so they just reject it, “a loving God would never send his creation to eternal pain in Hell” “well my preacher says that Hell is not really Hell and everybody goes to paradise” the truth is that Gods word clearly says that most people will go to hell no matter what or who anyone else says, and that they fully deserve it, God is just.

Fourthly people believe in doctrines of men not found once in scripture: annihilation, purgatory, or universal salvation, none of this is truly found in the Bible but these are man made doctrines that tickles people’s ears and makes them feel good by lying with Gods word. they take verses in the Bible completely out of context to create their theology, while ignoring the dozens of verses warning about the real literal Hell. This is why it is important to read the entire Bible not just the parts we personally agree with.

Fifthly they believe these different translations of the word Hell: they teach that English Bible versions have falsely used the word Hell for Sheol, Gehenna, Hades, people will take these words from other languages and use them to describe totally different places, people will say oh Sheol just means the grave for instance, Sheol is just a grave, you go to the grave. I guess they use this to believe in annihilation or soul sleep. Then they will take the word Gehenna and say that when the Bible uses Gehenna that means it isn’t really talking about hell, just a place in Jerusalem.

Sixthly (building on the fifth point) they use different translations like Greek and Hebrew to explain away words like eternal, they lie and say it doesn’t really mean eternal. It is easy to deceive people in other languages that they don’t know about. Catholic Church used Latin for hundreds of years, nobody could understand it. Anytime someone says we need to go back to the Greek, Latin or Hebrew for something, that is a red flag, this person is trying to change the meaning of scripture and deceive you in languages you don’t understand. As if God would confuse us enough to have to go to other languages to get the real meaning of his eternal word.

I could go on but I will end here, the point is that Hell is real, it is eternal because the Bible says so, there are no ways around it, those who do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation and they never get saved will be sent there regardless of how good of a person they thought or others thought that they were. We need to spread the truth, wake people up to reality and not give them some feel good motivational message to not risk offending people, this is eternity on the line, people’s souls we can’t play around in our messaging of the gospel.

hmmm ... we were created in His image
we are being conformed back into His Image
God tortures people? If so, then it's ok for us to torture people

Do you believe torture is ok to do?
 
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(they use the word destroy in Matthew 10:28 to teach annihilation theory despite Matthew 25:46,

Matt 10:28 And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Jude 1:7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these angels indulged in sexual perversion and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.

2 Peter 2: 6 and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example of what is coming for the ungodly
 
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hmmm ... we were created in His image
we are being conformed back into His Image
God tortures people? If so, then it's ok for us to torture people
Do you believe torture is ok to do?
There is a difference between torture and punishment. God does not torture.
 
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hmmm ... we were created in His image
we are being conformed back into His Image
God tortures people? If so, then it's ok for us to torture people

Do you believe torture is ok to do?
Torture is a synonym for Torment, the Bible is clear there is eternal punishment and will be tormented day and night, smoke of their torment ascends forever, and there will be gnashing of teeth
 
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Matt 10:28 And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Jude 1:7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these angels indulged in sexual perversion and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
2 Peter 2: 6 and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example of what is coming for the ungodly
Matt 10:28 does not say God will destroy both body and soul in hell. It says "Him who is able to destroy body and soul in hell." What God created He can certainly destroy but not one single verse in either testament says God has or will destroy even one soul in hell or anywhere else.
 
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Jesus and the Bible says that Hell is a real literal place in the heart of the Earth, (Matthew 12:40, Ephesians 4:9, Isaiah 14:9) eternal torment (torture) worm dieth not (Mark 9:44), facing the full wrath of God it isn’t separation (Revelation 14:10). It is a place created by God (Colossians 1:16, John 1:3) where the wicked souls immediately go to after death (Luke 16:23) and start their eternal conscious torment. (Luke 16:25) Eventually Hell will be thrown into the Lake of Fire after the great white throne judgement (Revelation 20:11-15) and that will be eternal. (Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10, Daniel 12:2, Jude 7)

Why do people reject the biblical fact of Hell? Firstly it isn’t preached to them, the prosperity health and wealth motivational speakers don’t speak on the reality of Hell, they openly admit to not preaching about sin, or the controversial issues, it might scare some people off. They don’t care about saving souls from Hell, the place that Jesus suffered and died shed his blood to save us from, clearly anyone who does would be preaching the reality of Hell to everyone they know to keep people out of it.

Secondly it’s not preached correctly, even if someone preaches Hell they say, well nobody really goes there except those who are really bad like Hitler and Stalin, God is too loving to send people to hell, most people are good people, Or that Hell is actually not eternal, or the wicked are just annihilated, burned up once and that’s it, what the Bible really means when it says eternal punishment is just that the punishment lasts forever but you’re not conscious you just get burned up once. Or the wicked just go to temporary place like purgatory to pay off their sins then enter Heaven.

Or that the wicked just cease to exist at death, there’s no eternal punishment or torment that’s it (they use the word destroy in Matthew 10:28 to teach annihilation theory despite Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10 saying the wicked will go to eternal punishment so the word destroy can’t possibly mean cease to exist) destroy, perish, consume these three words do not mean ceasing to exist like some teach, Hell is eternal punishment is clearly taught in scripture. Not annihilation or ceasing to exist.

Other verses disproving annihilation: 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Jude 13

Or Hell is just seperation from God (whatever that means) they say being separated from God is the worst torment (no you won’t be separated Gods wrath will be on them forever Psalm 139:8)

Other lies you hear about hell: hell is just a state of mind, this earth is hell, hell is empty nobody but Satan goes there and he isn’t in there yet. Or that Hell is run by Satan (no Jesus is control of death and hell, Satan isn’t in hell or the Lake of fire yet his throne is on the Earth) Or that the wicked don’t immediately go to Hell at death, despite the fact that the Rich man went straight to hell. This idea that nobody is in hell yet comes from a misunderstanding of scripture, the fact is there is a place called Hell currently located in the center of the Earth (Matthew 12:40, Ephesians 4:9, Isaiah 14:9) one day they will be resurrected and judged, then death and hell are cast into the Lake of Fire. The current Hell and the Lake of Fire are two seperate places and locations, nobody is in the Lake of Fire yet, they are all in the first Hell awaiting resurrection and judgement. Nowhere in the Bible does it teach soul sleep, or souls sleeping in the grave, when the Bible uses the word sleep it is talking about death, and the physical body, not the soul.

Thirdly people can’t comprehend the reality of eternal torment of Hell so they just reject it, “a loving God would never send his creation to eternal pain in Hell” “well my preacher says that Hell is not really Hell and everybody goes to paradise” the truth is that Gods word clearly says that most people will go to hell no matter what or who anyone else says, and that they fully deserve it, God is just.

Fourthly people believe in doctrines of men not found once in scripture: annihilation, purgatory, or universal salvation, none of this is truly found in the Bible but these are man made doctrines that tickles people’s ears and makes them feel good by lying with Gods word. they take verses in the Bible completely out of context to create their theology, while ignoring the dozens of verses warning about the real literal Hell. This is why it is important to read the entire Bible not just the parts we personally agree with.

Fifthly they believe these different translations of the word Hell: they teach that English Bible versions have falsely used the word Hell for Sheol, Gehenna, Hades, people will take these words from other languages and use them to describe totally different places, people will say oh Sheol just means the grave for instance, Sheol is just a grave, you go to the grave. I guess they use this to believe in annihilation or soul sleep. Then they will take the word Gehenna and say that when the Bible uses Gehenna that means it isn’t really talking about hell, just a place in Jerusalem.

Sixthly (building on the fifth point) they use different translations like Greek and Hebrew to explain away words like eternal, they lie and say it doesn’t really mean eternal. It is easy to deceive people in other languages that they don’t know about. Catholic Church used Latin for hundreds of years, nobody could understand it. Anytime someone says we need to go back to the Greek, Latin or Hebrew for something, that is a red flag, this person is trying to change the meaning of scripture and deceive you in languages you don’t understand. As if God would confuse us enough to have to go to other languages to get the real meaning of his eternal word.

I could go on but I will end here, the point is that Hell is real, it is eternal because the Bible says so, there are no ways around it, those who do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation and they never get saved will be sent there regardless of how good of a person they thought or others thought that they were. We need to spread the truth, wake people up to reality and not give them some feel good motivational message to not risk offending people, this is eternity on the line, people’s souls we can’t play around in our messaging of the gospel.
There's a similar psychological reason why people insist that a hell exist. It involves being unwilling to forgive others.

In your message you said hell is at the centre of the earth, and that hell is eternal.

The earth will be destroyed in the judgment, and is not eternal.
 
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People reject the idea of Hell because it is scary and because they can't understand a God that would send people to Hell. (Actually, people choose Hell.)

Barna does a lot of polling. A recent poll shows that upwards of 50% of the people in America that claim they are Christian.... Do not believe in Hell.


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People reject the idea of Hell because it is scary and because they can't understand a God that would send people to Hell. (Actually, people choose Hell.)

Barna does a lot of polling. A recent poll shows that upwards of 50% of the people in America that claim they are Christian.... Do not believe in Hell.


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which means Christian is not synonymous with "protestant" as it was in previous decades.
 
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Matt 10:28 And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


Matt 10:28 does not say God will destroy both body and soul in hell. It says "Him who is able to destroy body and soul in hell."

Same thing.

Bible writers - write to tell us what God does not what he could do but of course would never do.

Jude 1: 24 Now to Him who is able to protect you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory, blameless with great joy, 25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority before all time and now and forever. Amen
 
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Jesus and the Bible says that Hell is a real literal place in the heart of the Earth, (Matthew 12:40, Ephesians 4:9, Isaiah 14:9) eternal torment (torture) worm dieth not (Mark 9:44), facing the full wrath of God it isn’t separation (Revelation 14:10). It is a place created by God (Colossians 1:16, John 1:3) where the wicked souls immediately go to after death (Luke 16:23) and start their eternal conscious torment. (Luke 16:25) Eventually Hell will be thrown into the Lake of Fire after the great white throne judgement (Revelation 20:11-15) and that will be eternal. (Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10, Daniel 12:2, Jude 7)

Why do people reject the biblical fact of Hell? Firstly it isn’t preached to them, the prosperity health and wealth motivational speakers don’t speak on the reality of Hell, they openly admit to not preaching about sin, or the controversial issues, it might scare some people off. They don’t care about saving souls from Hell, the place that Jesus suffered and died shed his blood to save us from, clearly anyone who does would be preaching the reality of Hell to everyone they know to keep people out of it.

Secondly it’s not preached correctly, even if someone preaches Hell they say, well nobody really goes there except those who are really bad like Hitler and Stalin, God is too loving to send people to hell, most people are good people, Or that Hell is actually not eternal, or the wicked are just annihilated, burned up once and that’s it, what the Bible really means when it says eternal punishment is just that the punishment lasts forever but you’re not conscious you just get burned up once. Or the wicked just go to temporary place like purgatory to pay off their sins then enter Heaven.

Or that the wicked just cease to exist at death, there’s no eternal punishment or torment that’s it (they use the word destroy in Matthew 10:28 to teach annihilation theory despite Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:10 saying the wicked will go to eternal punishment so the word destroy can’t possibly mean cease to exist) destroy, perish, consume these three words do not mean ceasing to exist like some teach, Hell is eternal punishment is clearly taught in scripture. Not annihilation or ceasing to exist.

Other verses disproving annihilation: 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Jude 13

Or Hell is just seperation from God (whatever that means) they say being separated from God is the worst torment (no you won’t be separated Gods wrath will be on them forever Psalm 139:8)

Other lies you hear about hell: hell is just a state of mind, this earth is hell, hell is empty nobody but Satan goes there and he isn’t in there yet. Or that Hell is run by Satan (no Jesus is control of death and hell, Satan isn’t in hell or the Lake of fire yet his throne is on the Earth) Or that the wicked don’t immediately go to Hell at death, despite the fact that the Rich man went straight to hell. This idea that nobody is in hell yet comes from a misunderstanding of scripture, the fact is there is a place called Hell currently located in the center of the Earth (Matthew 12:40, Ephesians 4:9, Isaiah 14:9) one day they will be resurrected and judged, then death and hell are cast into the Lake of Fire. The current Hell and the Lake of Fire are two seperate places and locations, nobody is in the Lake of Fire yet, they are all in the first Hell awaiting resurrection and judgement. Nowhere in the Bible does it teach soul sleep, or souls sleeping in the grave, when the Bible uses the word sleep it is talking about death, and the physical body, not the soul.

Thirdly people can’t comprehend the reality of eternal torment of Hell so they just reject it, “a loving God would never send his creation to eternal pain in Hell” “well my preacher says that Hell is not really Hell and everybody goes to paradise” the truth is that Gods word clearly says that most people will go to hell no matter what or who anyone else says, and that they fully deserve it, God is just.

Fourthly people believe in doctrines of men not found once in scripture: annihilation, purgatory, or universal salvation, none of this is truly found in the Bible but these are man made doctrines that tickles people’s ears and makes them feel good by lying with Gods word. they take verses in the Bible completely out of context to create their theology, while ignoring the dozens of verses warning about the real literal Hell. This is why it is important to read the entire Bible not just the parts we personally agree with.

Fifthly they believe these different translations of the word Hell: they teach that English Bible versions have falsely used the word Hell for Sheol, Gehenna, Hades, people will take these words from other languages and use them to describe totally different places, people will say oh Sheol just means the grave for instance, Sheol is just a grave, you go to the grave. I guess they use this to believe in annihilation or soul sleep. Then they will take the word Gehenna and say that when the Bible uses Gehenna that means it isn’t really talking about hell, just a place in Jerusalem.

Sixthly (building on the fifth point) they use different translations like Greek and Hebrew to explain away words like eternal, they lie and say it doesn’t really mean eternal. It is easy to deceive people in other languages that they don’t know about. Catholic Church used Latin for hundreds of years, nobody could understand it. Anytime someone says we need to go back to the Greek, Latin or Hebrew for something, that is a red flag, this person is trying to change the meaning of scripture and deceive you in languages you don’t understand. As if God would confuse us enough to have to go to other languages to get the real meaning of his eternal word.

I could go on but I will end here, the point is that Hell is real, it is eternal because the Bible says so, there are no ways around it, those who do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation and they never get saved will be sent there regardless of how good of a person they thought or others thought that they were. We need to spread the truth, wake people up to reality and not give them some feel good motivational message to not risk offending people, this is eternity on the line, people’s souls we can’t play around in our messaging of the gospel.

ok .. plain english .... define the word death

and then secondly what is the second death.
Torture is a synonym for Torment, the Bible is clear there is eternal punishment and will be tormented day and night, smoke of their torment ascends forever, and there will be gnashing of teeth

Torment is the pain. Torture is the deliberate act of inflicting it (according to you because God has a place where he deliberately sends some there and they experience burning for eternity). People are in torment during or after torture.

you didn't answer my questions ...

define the word death
what is the second death
 
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Matt 10:28 does not say God will destroy both body and soul in hell. It says "Him who is able to destroy body and soul in hell." What God created He can certainly destroy but not one single verse in either testament says God has or will destroy even one soul in hell or anywhere else.

You are wrong.

“I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that have no more that they can do. 5 But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into  hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him! Luke 12:4-5

Here, Jesus plainly states that even in the case of a murder, no matter how brutal, there is something so much worse that can happen to us after that, which is the thing we ought to really be afraid of, even beyond the murder itself. And it involves being sent to hell. Now you make sense of that outside of the traditional understanding of eternal conscious torment in hell.
 
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Jude 1: 24 Now to Him who is able to protect you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory, blameless with great joy, 25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority before all time and now and forever. Amen
This is a common practice, quote a vs or 2 out-of-context trying to make the Bible say something it does not say.
Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jud 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
Jude 1:11
(11) Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
Jude 1:15
(15) To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
 
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You are wrong.
“I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that have no more that they can do. 5 But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into  hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him! Luke 12:4-5
Here, Jesus plainly states that even in the case of a murder, no matter how brutal, there is something so much worse that can happen to us after that, which is the thing we ought to really be afraid of, even beyond the murder itself. And it involves being sent to hell. Now you make sense of that outside of the traditional understanding of eternal conscious torment in hell.
You have not shown me that I am wrong. This is nothing but "You're wrong and I'm right! Am too! Nuh huh!" Why would anyone fear being thrown in hell after they die unless there is "eternal punishment" as Jesus said in Matthew 25:46
EOB Matthew:25:46 When he will answer them, saying: ‘Amen, I tell you: as much as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 These [ones on the left] will go away into eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] punishment, [κόλασις/kolasis] but the righteous into eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] life.”​
Greek has been the language of the Eastern Greek Orthodox church since its inception, 2000 years +/- ago. Who better than the team of native Greek speaking scholars, the translators of the Eastern Greek Orthodox Bible [EOB], quoted below, know the correct meaning of the Greek words in the N.T.?
Link to EOB online;
The New Testament ( The Eastern-Greek Orthodox Bible) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
…..The Greek word “kolasis” occurs only twice in the N.T., first occurrence Matt 25:46 and the second occurrence 1 John 4:18.
EOB 1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear is connected with punishment.[ κόλασις/kolasis] But the one who fears is not yet perfect in love.​
Note, the native Greek speaking Eastern Orthodox Greek scholars, translators of the EOB, translated “aionios” as “eternal,” NOT “age.”
In the EOB the Greek word “kolasis” is translated “punishment” in both Matt 25:46 and 1 John 4:18. Some folks claim “kolasis” really means “prune” or “correction.” However, according to the EOB Greek scholars it means “punishment.”
Note: in 1 John 4:18 there is no correction, the one with “kolasis” is not made perfect. Thus “kolasis” does not and cannot mean “correction.
…..I acknowledge that modern Greek is different than koine Greek but I am confident that the Greek speaking EOB scholars are competent enough to know the correct meanings of old words which may have changed in meaning or are no longer used and translate them correctly. Just as scholars today know the meaning of archaic words which occur in the KJV and translate them correctly.
 
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There's a similar psychological reason why people insist that a hell exist. It involves being unwilling to forgive others.

In your message you said hell is at the centre of the earth, and that hell is eternal.

The earth will be destroyed in the judgment, and is not eternal.
Hell is eternal, the Lake of Fire is also hell, your eternal destination doesn't change after the first hell and death are cast into the Lake, they will be resurrected and judged in the great white throne judgement, they will be judged according to their works, then be cast into the Lake of Fire. nobody is in the Lake of Fire yet they are in Hell waiting to be resurrected and judged. Hell is eternal Matthew 25:46 believers who die immediately are present with the Lord 2 Corinthians 5:8, and unbelievers immediately to Hell and torments. Luke 16:23
 
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You have not shown me that I am wrong. This is nothing but "You're wrong and I'm right! Am too! Nuh huh!" Why would anyone fear being thrown in hell after they die unless there is "eternal punishment" as Jesus said in Matthew 25:46
EOB Matthew:25:46 When he will answer them, saying: ‘Amen, I tell you: as much as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 These [ones on the left] will go away into eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] punishment, [κόλασις/kolasis] but the righteous into eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] life.”​
Greek has been the language of the Eastern Greek Orthodox church since its inception, 2000 years +/- ago. Who better than the team of native Greek speaking scholars, the translators of the Eastern Greek Orthodox Bible [EOB], quoted below, know the correct meaning of the Greek words in the N.T.?
Link to EOB online;
The New Testament ( The Eastern-Greek Orthodox Bible) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
…..The Greek word “kolasis” occurs only twice in the N.T., first occurrence Matt 25:46 and the second occurrence 1 John 4:18.
EOB 1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear is connected with punishment.[ κόλασις/kolasis] But the one who fears is not yet perfect in love.​
Note, the native Greek speaking Eastern Orthodox Greek scholars, translators of the EOB, translated “aionios” as “eternal,” NOT “age.”
In the EOB the Greek word “kolasis” is translated “punishment” in both Matt 25:46 and 1 John 4:18. Some folks claim “kolasis” really means “prune” or “correction.” However, according to the EOB Greek scholars it means “punishment.”
Note: in 1 John 4:18 there is no correction, the one with “kolasis” is not made perfect. Thus “kolasis” does not and cannot mean “correction.
…..I acknowledge that modern Greek is different than koine Greek but I am confident that the Greek speaking EOB scholars are competent enough to know the correct meanings of old words which may have changed in meaning or are no longer used and translate them correctly. Just as scholars today know the meaning of archaic words which occur in the KJV and translate them correctly.

I gave you Luke 12:4-5, but you talked about something else.
 
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Hell is real and should be avoided. The duration is limited due to the fact God's mercy, grace and compassion lasts forever. Human ignorance can never defeat God's mercy.
Hello Wendy, the Bible says that the Lake of Fire will be the eternal abode of all who end up being sent there .. e.g. Revelation 20:10, but you seem to believe otherwise. If your belief is based upon the Scriptures, please point me/us in the direction of the verses/passages that you believe contradict v10 above.

Or, is your belief (at least principally) based upon your personal thoughts/understanding of what the true nature of God must be, such that His merciful, gracious and compassionate nature will not allow Him to punish the reprobate eternally for his/her sin and unbelief? (this idea would mean that several of the other parts of His Divine nature would need to be considered too, such as His righteousness, holiness and justice, because such a belief, if true, would certainly affect them and our long-held common understanding of them, yes?)

*(Do you believe that God can choose to be merciful, gracious and compassionate to some, but not all, and still be considered merciful, gracious and compassionate, or do you believe that these attributes REQUIRE Him to act accordingly towards EVERYONE .. even if doing so would require Him to FORCE those who do not want to accept what He has to offer to do so anyway :scratch: Or, would such a requirement being forced upon people who do not want it actually make those things something else (than mercy, grace and compassion)?

There are many who clearly/overtly/continually reject Him, even among those who have been fully enlightened about Him and what He has to offer them .. e.g. Hebrews 6:4-6, because they want nothing to do with Him, nor with anything that He has to offer them, no matter how merciful, gracious, compassionate and wonderful His offerings are. So again, can it truly be considered merciful, gracious or compassionate for God to FORCE those who have chosen to reject Him to accept Him anyway, and to therefore live in the presence of the One they hate so deeply for rest of eternity?)

Finally, you said that "human ~ignorance~ can never defeat God's mercy". Is it your belief therefore that God chooses to punish nonbelievers on the basis of that which they neither know nor understand? (at least temporarily anyway) That doesn't seem to be what He tells us in the Bible .. cf Romans 2:12-16.

And if He actually does so (punishes the ignorant, that is), can He truly be considered, in any real sense, gracious, compassionate and/or merciful?

Thanks!

God bless you!!

--David
 
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