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<blockquote data-quote="Job 33:6" data-source="post: 71534167" data-attributes="member: 399299"><p>We could not expect anything to take so much time to get from here to there? What do you mean?</p><p></p><p>When you take away spacetime, you take away the medium by which light travels. For example, if a black hole is in between us and a light source, light doesn't travel where there is no spacetime to travel through. Or on the edges of black holes, light bends. But when we look into space at stars, the light is not bending. There is no evidence for the light doing anything but moving toward us.</p></blockquote><p>Stop??</p><p> How would we know, have we ever seen time stop!? No. Do we know that time is needed for all movement? No. And how about if there were simply less time? Like less gravity, for example, we would need to change calculations based on some uniform time throughout the universe. Who knows? Until you do, you may not claim so much time is needed to move in deep space.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p></p><p>We have seen black holes bend spacetime. Light bends with it. Light consists of particles of energy. Physical entities that operate in time. Light from our sun takes several seconds to reach us. If time stopped between us and the sun, light also would stop. And as I said above, light may bend with greater amounts of gravity. There is no evidence of that. </p><p></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p> We do not know what it is like if time itself was different and space. We are not talking about time from here to the star being slower or faster either. It might be one way in the solar syste area here, and another way out there! So we cannot say it would be faster or slower based on the perspective form earth!</p><p></p><p> Light does not need the time we know on earth to move. Light possibly moves accordingly in the space it is in, determined by the way time exists THERE.[/QUOTE]</p><p></p><p>There is no evidence that indicates that light is doing anything other than simply moving toward us. Massive objects bend light and in the case of black holes, consume it. But in the case of many stars, light exists as it does here on earth.</p><p></p><p>Maybe if distant stars looked different. Or if they didn't give off light signatures for hydrogen and helium. But they do, the stars in space look like our own star. The light they emit is like the light of our own star as well. And there is no evidence indicating that distant stars or their light are changed in anyway that might throw off our ability to measure their distance.</p><p></p><p>I suppose ill add you to the block list now. It is unfortunate for me to say this, but im afraid you have lost your mind.</p><p></p><p>But good luck none the less...</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Job 33:6, post: 71534167, member: 399299"] We could not expect anything to take so much time to get from here to there? What do you mean? When you take away spacetime, you take away the medium by which light travels. For example, if a black hole is in between us and a light source, light doesn't travel where there is no spacetime to travel through. Or on the edges of black holes, light bends. But when we look into space at stars, the light is not bending. There is no evidence for the light doing anything but moving toward us. [/QUOTE] Stop?? How would we know, have we ever seen time stop!? No. Do we know that time is needed for all movement? No. And how about if there were simply less time? Like less gravity, for example, we would need to change calculations based on some uniform time throughout the universe. Who knows? Until you do, you may not claim so much time is needed to move in deep space. [/QUOTE] We have seen black holes bend spacetime. Light bends with it. Light consists of particles of energy. Physical entities that operate in time. Light from our sun takes several seconds to reach us. If time stopped between us and the sun, light also would stop. And as I said above, light may bend with greater amounts of gravity. There is no evidence of that. [/QUOTE] We do not know what it is like if time itself was different and space. We are not talking about time from here to the star being slower or faster either. It might be one way in the solar syste area here, and another way out there! So we cannot say it would be faster or slower based on the perspective form earth! Light does not need the time we know on earth to move. Light possibly moves accordingly in the space it is in, determined by the way time exists THERE.[/QUOTE] There is no evidence that indicates that light is doing anything other than simply moving toward us. Massive objects bend light and in the case of black holes, consume it. But in the case of many stars, light exists as it does here on earth. Maybe if distant stars looked different. Or if they didn't give off light signatures for hydrogen and helium. But they do, the stars in space look like our own star. The light they emit is like the light of our own star as well. And there is no evidence indicating that distant stars or their light are changed in anyway that might throw off our ability to measure their distance. I suppose ill add you to the block list now. It is unfortunate for me to say this, but im afraid you have lost your mind. But good luck none the less... [/QUOTE]
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