There's a show on God tv which is a huge sermon presented by someone called Benny something. Why is it that when he brings the healed people up on stage and touches their foreheads they collapse and someone catches then and lies then down. Then they get up again. What is that all about?
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Why on God tv..?
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I have seen that on t.v. also. Somebody once told me that guy Benny has some special powers given by God and he gives people the Holy Spirit when he heals them. I don't know if that is right but it is what I heard from somebody.
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SUNSTONE
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Before I ever heard of Benny Hinn, or heard of the Holy Spirit, or heard of anything to do with Christianity, except Jesus died for my sins. I had an experience with God.
That was when I became born again, and I literally fell down on my bed dazed with the Holy Spirit.
Some peole do fake falling down. But the Holy Spirit can knock a person down.
That was when I became born again, and I literally fell down on my bed dazed with the Holy Spirit.
Some peole do fake falling down. But the Holy Spirit can knock a person down.
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^^ very true. I've only been knocked down twice, but I know what it feels like to go down and feel God. Whole charismatic thing.. Some people don't like it.
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I wish the Holy Spirit would do something to me. I know that if you pray to God and ask Him to fill you with His spirit He is only to happy to oblige because someone is choosing to believe in Him. He hasn't done it for me though, no matter how hard I have prayed. I have yet to feel His spirit. 
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Feeling His Spirirt isn't always a touchy feely experience. If you have recieved Christ into your heart then you have the Spirit.
Just because you haven't been knocked over doesn't mean its not there.
In Him
Just because you haven't been knocked over doesn't mean its not there.
In Him
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It's hard to believe He is there if I'm honest. Tough times at the moment. During which I have becme closer to him and devoted lots more of my time to prayer and readng the Bible, but it seems the more I do, the less God does.
On that God TV channel they say 'Pray and God will answer your prayers today!'. I have been praying the same thing continually for 2 months to no avail.
On that God TV channel they say 'Pray and God will answer your prayers today!'. I have been praying the same thing continually for 2 months to no avail.
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but'n'ben said:
Benny Hinn? Look, that guy's the biggest wolf to come after the flock since Kenyon.
Like so much else he does, the whole "touch, topple, tilt" thing is completely without Biblical merit.
You will not find one example of this stupidity anywhere in scripture.
Also, if you look at this logically, it doesn't add up.
If this really were an act of God, why would He do it through a false teacher and give credibility to said teacher when His word tells us to stay away from false teachers?
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I have watched some videos on this stuff, being knocked over by a touch. It is weird how they fall backwards in the videos i saw....i thought people would fall forward flat on their faces if they had an experience with God. Anyhow, I agree with you 12VoltMan. There is no Biblical merit for this and Benny doesnt seem to be real to me. Funny when he came to Australia he needed to have his limo and 5 bodyguards. Isnt Jesus enough protection??? I think I smell money and power rather than the Holy Spirit at work. I and many of my friends have felt very uncomfortable in churches where they practice this falling down thing. They are all strong Christians and spend much time in the Word of God and in prayer who are uncomfortable. In fact, one non-Christian girl i know was going to one of these churches and didnt hear what the gospel was about the whole time she was there. I had to tell her. She thought that church was about dancing around and falling down and other weird stuff. Tongues and other signs are supposed help people not discourage them. I do believe in people being healed....but i dont believe all of it is real...in fact probably not a lot of it is real..and considering that the Bible warns many times about false prophets, I would always be careful about things like this. Remember, God and His Word are the authority and if you test this and it doesnt match with the Bible...best to stay clear.
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Andy D said:
I actually don't have a problem with his having a bodyguard or even a couple if there's a legitimate threat.
He is, for better or for worse, a public figure and, as such, may attract unwanted or unhealthy attention.
Aside from the general crazies out there, you think of all of the people he and his scams have left reeling in their wake and I don't think it's unreasonable at all for someone to want revenge.
What I do have a problem with are the large entourages of followers and hangers on, Gulfstream jets, the presidential suites, the motorcades, etc.
There is no financial oversight in his organization and they spend money like it were water, money that's supposed to be going to a ministry, not to his opulent lifestyle.
I don't believe that the Holy Spirit is at work here. I simply don't see how you can justify someone who teaches heresy, makes false prophecies, lies habitually (has he ever repented of boasting that his father was mayor of Jaffa, Israel?) and the work of the Holy Spirit.
This is not uncommon at all. I went to a Word of Faith church in Pennsauken, NJ where we were discouraged from studying the scriptures. We were given verses, usually out of context, that supported their agenda. We were never encouraged to study scripture on our own.
I was eventually asked to leave because the pastor there said something that went directly against scripture. I brought it to his attention in a way that I thought (and what others agreed) was respectful. I was branded a troublemaker, shunned and eventually asked to leave. Needless to say, this was the scene where Toto pulled the curtain back and I saw the Wizard for what he really was. The beginning of a long process of God leading me out of this mess.
Don't be surprised that the people who are caught up in this movement don't know the Bible. These people don't teach their people the Bible for the same reason a used car salesman won't let you look under the hood of the car he's trying to sell you.
I agree.
Let's say, just for the sake of argument that Hinn really is healing people (even though he cannot document one healing). How do you reconcile this fact with the fact that he preaches false doctrine and makes false prophecies? Wouldn't this be the very thing that the Bible warns about when it warns of those who would do decieving sings and wonders?
That's the best advice you could possibly give. Unfortunately, people don't do this. This is why we have people like Benny Hinn.
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Sometimes he doesn't answer prayer. I can remember times where I prayed for something and then later, I was glad that the something didn't happen because I ended up actually better off with the new thing in place of what I wanted originally.but'n'ben said:
So if he doesn't answer your request specifically, I'd be on the lookout for something better than what you wanted to result.
He is definately listening to you.
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It is my opinion that Benny Hinn is a fraud.
Here is just one article: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/living/6525461.htm?1c
Here is just one article: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/living/6525461.htm?1c
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You may not have realised it just yet. That little voice that you may hear telling you to either call your grandmother, talk to someone, or whatever it is is actually the Holy Spirit. You have to train your heart to hear that voice and not ignore it. Trust me, it's happened to me before and it is really awesome. Just listen to that voice and you will see what I mean. You don't have to get knocked to the ground to feel the Holy spirit.but'n'ben said:I wish the Holy Spirit would do something to me. I know that if you pray to God and ask Him to fill you with His spirit He is only to happy to oblige because someone is choosing to believe in Him. He hasn't done it for me though, no matter how hard I have prayed. I have yet to feel His spirit.
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I beg you to be wary of televangilists like Benny. I would just steer clear of all of them, but listen to their teaching and see if they say anything against the word of God. If you find anything that is wrong, turn the TV off and forget them. But I don't disagree with the fact that they MAY have powers given to them by God. It is possible, for the disciples in Jesus' time had powers to heal.
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I don't trust that Benny guy for one second to be honest. He spends more time 'healing' than preaching and I find that a bit suspicious. I do listen to sermons where it's preaching the gospel and only that, but I don't trust that guy at all.
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He wasnt! Back the days I was a little child he was a real man of God. He walked in the holy spirit, I don't doubt that. However, nowadays, he indeed is being tempted by money... Such a shame...Caelum said:
However I think you shouldn't jump to conclusions so fast Caelum. Simply because of the sin thats called "the sin against the holy spirit", which I thought was the only sin that couldnt be forgiven. Benny Hinn DID cure people through God, I just don't know if he still is...
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Vag4 said:
He uses the "unforgivable sin" as a protection blanket from criticism from the Christian church(community)... Whether or not the healing he assists in is actually performed by the Holy Spirit only God knows(and probably a few production managers, roadies, etc lol)...but what he does is completely unbiblical and isn't supported by the Word of God...therefore it's expected to bring about much questioning. I have a hard time believing that someone else "using" the Holy Spirit can heal someone by the laying of hands, yet that person, with faith cannot heal themselves "using" the Holy Spirit. Why Benny? The power of the Holy Spirit is God's gift to everyone, not just Mr. Hinn...however, for $100, he will pray for you on LIVE National TV! pfffft
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That healing thing where people fall down and come back up is 99% of the time false. Its a scam to get donations from you. Did you know many of those tv preachers have very large mansions and are pretty wealthy? I believe it to be more of a false denomic situation or just most likely a fake healing, and rarely that it is an actuall healing from God. I say this because of the credibility of these preachers and that somehow basically the only ones who "have" these powers are the ones on TV. Its for the most part a scam. Miracles do happen, but not whenever a preacher wants them too. Man cannot command God, and I dont think Gods going to help someone who uses much of the donations for self gain.
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I dont think he uses it, I think its true. Perhaps he uses it, but that does not take away that we should guard our tongue...Caelum said:
You have to ask yourself the question, "do I walk with God, and have I recieved the holy Spirit properly?" Because Jesus said that with the Holy Spirit we recieved the power to cast out unclean spirits and heal. Now can you? I know I can't and thats why I'm desperate for finding the answers...Caelum said:
True, However why? I think Benny was a real man of God. But I think he fell for one of Satan's favorite traps called "money".... Its such a sad thing what happened to the man. I know people who REALLY got cured thanks to him, but that was back in the OLD days.Caelum said:Why Benny? The power of the Holy Spirit is God's gift to everyone, not just Mr. Hinn...however, for $100, he will pray for you on LIVE National TV! pfffft
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