WHY NOW?

[farout]

I wonder why the tape of Trump came out when it did? This could have been released a long time ago, it has existed for a very long time, 11 years! So made why did Bill release it now just before the second debate? Was this a deliberate attempt to assure Clinton would win?

Trump was aware it was out there, he told us he was not a perfect man, we all know Trump has been married three times, and that he dated his now wife while he was married.

We all had to be aware Trump has a checkered past or some just chose to ignore the facts. A person had to be blind to not be aware of Trump being a playboy and a player. Trump's pictures in front of the Playboy club are all over the place. Trump has made headlines in the papers and on TV with him and many women.

No one in the republican party could have been so dump not to see how he made fun of those running for president in the debates. We all heard Megan Kelly attack trump for the way he disrespected women. But now all of a sudden people are shocked at how Trump talked back 11 years ago. Really?

Those who are so upset about how Trump talked 11 years ago are out of touch with reality. Many with power and money do have immoral lives and talk filthy. Wealthy powerful people attract people of all kinds. Have we forgotten how many women Bill Clinton has been involved with?

Anyone who says they are surprised by what Trump did back 11 years ago either is blind to how the man has lived or is blind to the obvious. Republican's who run from Trump are traitors and need to reregister as a Democrat.

Above the man Trump are the Party planks that are distinctly different from the liberals who support same sex marriage, abortion, and LGBT.

The tapes are a vicious dirty trick at the last minuet, see it for what it was.

 

[imind]

The tapes are a vicious dirty trick at the last minuet, see it for what it was.

the tapes expose trump for what he really is...

 

[farout]

the tapes expose trump for what he really is...

Yes they surely did. But they were available all the time. There was a reason Bill waited to now. By the way he got fired.

 

[tickingclocker]

I wonder why the tape of Trump came out when it did? This could have been released a long time ago, it has existed for a very long time, 11 years! So made why did Bill release it now just before the second debate? Was this a deliberate attempt to assure Clinton would win?

Trump was aware it was out there, he told us he was not a perfect man, we all know Trump has been married three times, and that he dated his now wife while he was married.

We all had to be aware Trump has a checkered past or some just chose to ignore the facts. A person had to be blind to not be aware of Trump being a playboy and a player. Trump's pictures in front of the Playboy club are all over the place. Trump has made headlines in the papers and on TV with him and many women.

No one in the republican party could have been so dump not to see how he made fun of those running for president in the debates. We all heard Megan Kelly attack trump for the way he disrespected women. But now all of a sudden people are shocked at how Trump talked back 11 years ago. Really?

Those who are so upset about how Trump talked 11 years ago are out of touch with reality. Many with power and money do have immoral lives and talk filthy. Wealthy powerful people attract people of all kinds. Have we forgotten how many women Bill Clinton has been involved with?

Anyone who says they are surprised by what Trump did back 11 years ago either is blind to how the man has lived or is blind to the obvious. Republican's who run from Trump are traitors and need to reregister as a Democrat.

Above the man Trump are the Party planks that are distinctly different from the liberals who support same sex marriage, abortion, and LGBT.

The tapes are a vicious dirty trick at the last minuet, see it for what it was.

Some repubs walked away from Trump because of ethical reasons. Like Ryan, they never really officially supported him to begin with. This was the last straw on the official side of the RNC scales. When Ryan cut everyone loose to determine their own conscience above all, what did you expect? EVERY politician to be a straw dummy that can be turned one way or another whenever the crows get used to his position? Some have a modicum of ethics left in their bones.

Quite a few dems walked away from the Clintons when Bill publicly admitted to Lewinski and Hillary remained the faithful wife. It's their right, just like it is with repubs. Should they have become repubs simply because they chose their conscience? It wasn't the party they left. It was supporting the person.

The Wall Street speeches are a vicious dirty trick at the last minute. See it for what it is. See? Works both ways when you don't imagine politicians are always on the up and up. It's what they do... to each other. (If this is how they treat each other, think of what they do to us!)

 

[farout]

Some repubs walked away from Trump because of ethical reasons. Like Ryan, they never really officially supported him to begin with. This was the last straw on the official side of the RNC scales. When Ryan cut everyone loose to determine their own conscience above all, what did you expect? EVERY politician to be a straw dummy that can be turned one way or another whenever the crows get used to his position? Some have a modicum of ethics left in their bones.

Quite a few dems walked away from the Clintons when Bill publicly admitted to Lewinski and Hillary remained the faithful wife. It's their right, just like it is with repubs. Should they have become repubs simply because they chose their conscience? It wasn't the party they left. It was supporting the person.

The Wall Street speeches are a vicious dirty trick at the last minute. See it for what it is. See? Works both ways when you don't imagine politicians are always on the up and up. It's what they do... to each other. (If this is how they treat each other, think of what they do to us!)

I posted this earlier today, Ted Cruz has just recently posted almost the same thing. Great minds work much the same.

 

[MoonlessNight]

the tapes expose trump for what he really is...

What's your opinion on the huge amount that we have learned about Hilary's character and the character of her staff through wikileaks?

 

[SolomonVII]

The tapes were released when they were because that was an auspicious time that was the most beneficial for the Democratic candidate, and the most harmful to the Republican candidate.

There is nothing unusual about the American media doing this kind of thing. Many in the media are overtly on record as openly working for a Democrat win. There is no longer even a pretense of objectivity in that regard.

 

[imind]

What's your opinion on the huge amount that we have learned about Hilary's character and the character of her staff through wikileaks?

do you have anything specific you that you would like me to comment on?

 

[MoonlessNight]

do you have anything specific you that you would like me to comment on?

Take your pick.

You can talk about her corrupt dealings with media outlets, her shenanigans to shut down Sander's campaigns, her pay to play dealing with countries that have barbaric laws, her surrogates planning to undermine the Catholic Church, whatever topic strikes your fancy.

 

[Kersh]

The answer to the OP: Because scandal sells advertising. If NBC had released the tape during the primaries, then Cruz or Rubio likely would have gotten the GOP nomination, and fewer people would be paying attention, thereby generating less advertising revenue for NBC and other outlets.

On a more spiritual level, I am believing more and more that this election is about God's judgment. We have been presented with two candidates, both of whom are so ruthless, evil and immoral, neither is any better than the other. There are a couple of write-ins that look promising, but honestly, it would take a miracle and millions of faithful Christians voting their conscience over their party, to avoid what seems inevitable.

We serve a God who works in miracles, and for that reason, I will vote third party or write in and pray for the best. We also serve a God who judges and punishes his people, so I will accept the result of this election, if God chooses to allow the inevitable to happen. This should be a call to repentance for the church in America.

 

[MoonlessNight]

The answer to the OP: Because scandal sells advertising. If NBC had released the tape during the primaries, then Cruz or Rubio likely would have gotten the GOP nomination, and fewer people would be paying attention, thereby generating less advertising revenue for NBC and other outlets.

If they were only motivated by profit, and reported one what people will talk about, things like the multitude of scandals uncovered by wikileaks would be getting wall to wall coverage.

 

[Kersh]

If they were only motivated by profit, and reported one what people will talk about, things like the multitude of scandals uncovered by wikileaks would be getting wall to wall coverage.

I doubt that Clinton staffers saying bad things about Christians or Hillary improperly handling email comes close in sensationalism value to Donald bragging about sexually assaulting women, sexualizing his own daughter, etc. Frankly, outside of those who already oppose Clinton, not many people really care about her scandals, because they are just not that juicy.

 

[classicalhero]

What I like about this "scandal", BTW, it's no about sexual assault, because the women are willingly giving themselves over, is the rank hypocrisy of the left suddenly being outraged about such a thing. They say they would never do such a thing is so laughable I can't believe they are saying with a straight face.

 

[mark kennedy]

I wonder why the tape of Trump came out when it did? This could have been released a long time ago, it has existed for a very long time, 11 years! So made why did Bill release it now just before the second debate? Was this a deliberate attempt to assure Clinton would win?

Trump was aware it was out there, he told us he was not a perfect man, we all know Trump has been married three times, and that he dated his now wife while he was married.

We all had to be aware Trump has a checkered past or some just chose to ignore the facts. A person had to be blind to not be aware of Trump being a playboy and a player. Trump's pictures in front of the Playboy club are all over the place. Trump has made headlines in the papers and on TV with him and many women.

No one in the republican party could have been so dump not to see how he made fun of those running for president in the debates. We all heard Megan Kelly attack trump for the way he disrespected women. But now all of a sudden people are shocked at how Trump talked back 11 years ago. Really?

Those who are so upset about how Trump talked 11 years ago are out of touch with reality. Many with power and money do have immoral lives and talk filthy. Wealthy powerful people attract people of all kinds. Have we forgotten how many women Bill Clinton has been involved with?

Anyone who says they are surprised by what Trump did back 11 years ago either is blind to how the man has lived or is blind to the obvious. Republican's who run from Trump are traitors and need to reregister as a Democrat.

Above the man Trump are the Party planks that are distinctly different from the liberals who support same sex marriage, abortion, and LGBT.

The tapes are a vicious dirty trick at the last minuet, see it for what it was.

I think those allegations of sexual misconduct and that vulgar remark he made has ended his political career. However, I know that this is how politics works, throw enough mud on the wall and some of it will stick. Dirty tricks is what they do but for me, I blame to American public for being so responsive to this kind of tabloid journalism. Sex sales, everyone knows that.

 

[imind]

If NBC had released the tape during the primaries,

my understanding is they only "held on to it" for a couple of days...is there evidence they held on to it longer?

 

[Kersh]

my understanding is they only "held on to it" for a couple of days...is there evidence they held on to it longer?

They've had the tape since long before the primaries. Whether there is any evidence that they knowingly held onto it or just recently discovered it, I don't know. But, the timing is awfullt uncanny if it was truly a recent discovery.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...e-nbc-news-access-hollywood-billy-bush-214344

 

[J Cord]

I wonder why the tape of Trump came out when it did?

For the same reason the wikileaks emails are being released when they are.

Funny, I looked, and I haven't seen you complain about that, not even once.


And it's called an October Surprise, and has been happening for ages. You are just getting tricked by Trump and his surrogates into believing this is something new or unusual.

As I just pointed out, you are complaining about something Hillary allies are doing, when Trump allies are doing the same thing at the same time. Ironic, no?

 

[J Cord]

What's your opinion on the huge amount that we have learned about Hilary's character and the character of her staff through wikileaks?

So far, we don't even know what's real and what's been fabricated, so they say nothing about Clinton's character.

LOL, it's not like I'm going to trust criminals (the hackers), who have an agenda, to be honest regarding that agenda. Wouldn't you agree that that would be the height of stupidity?

 

[SolomonVII]

They've had the tape since long before the primaries. Whether there is any evidence that they knowingly held onto it or just recently discovered it, I don't know. But, the timing is awfullt uncanny if it was truly a recent discovery.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...e-nbc-news-access-hollywood-billy-bush-214344

With however millions or billions of dollars at their disposal, coincidences like this are never made during presidential campaigns. They are manufactured.

When Trump was the biggest star in NBC's line-up, this kind of talk was not even news. It was just another day in the life of a typical Hollywood celebrity with typical Hollywood values. Trump made the NBC brand lots of money, and they saved the Trump brand in return. The sleaze is just a part of that culture, and nothing newsworthy.

But when push comes to shove, NBC is of the dominant mainstream culture, and the dominant political culture in America today swings left.

It is not as if Trump is, or has ever been, conservative in any way. He is not of the right. He is of the same social circle, and the same sexual values as the Clintons. They are front seat at his weddings.

But he is running as a Republican this year, and that is reason enough to manufacture a coincidence.

It is nothing that can be proven. But then again, when does common sense ever need proof?
We either go with our common sense, or without it.

Of course this was not a random coincidence.