why NOT to vote for mccain

[seremela06]

Palin is against abortion, even in the case of rape or incest.

Okay, ladies. I will agree that abortion, in most cases, is not okay. But honestly, if I got pregnant as a result of rape, I don't know what my decision would be. I would like to think I'd keep the baby, but I would like to have a choice.

Palin opposes the use of birth control, as well sexual health education classes for teens.
AND
McCain is against federal funding of birth control and sex education.

I think that we can all agree that abstinence would be the best way to go. But taking sex education out of our schools is reckless. Again, women's rights come into play. No birth control? If I don't want kids yet, I think it's my choice whether or not I take birth control or am celibate.

Palin forced the rape victims of Wasilla, Alaska to pay for their own rape kits.

This is most definitely true. When she came into office, she opposed the law stating that the state would pay for rape kits. Now rape victims in Wasilla have to pay for their own rape kits which cost around $1200.

 

[lovesdolphins]

Too late... already voted for McCain/Palin.

 

[seremela06]

Too late... already voted for McCain/Palin.

and it doesn't bother you in the least that palin has done this and that they have both voted to take away your rights as a woman?

 

[RobinRedbreast]

All old news -.-

Considering the election is so close at hand, and the advanced-polling is already in full swing, I really don't know why we have to do one of these threads all over again, it just causes pain and hurt when everyone ends up at each other's throats

 

[RobinRedbreast]

and it doesn't bother you in the least that palin has done this and that they have both voted to take away your rights as a woman?

Just for the record, that's what you consider to be "rights as a woman". There are some people (not taking sides here, just saying "everyone has an opinion") that don't believe it -is- a right to be able to abort a child.

As a result, your statement here makes no sense for someone with that belief.

Everyone has their own minds, can't we just let everyone vote as they wish to vote and quit the smearing?

 

[seremela06]

Just for the record, that's what you consider to be "rights as a woman". There are some people (not taking sides here, just saying "everyone has an opinion") that don't believe it -is- a right to be able to abort a child.

As a result, your statement here makes no sense for someone with that belief.

Everyone has their own minds, can't we just let everyone vote as they wish to vote and quit the smearing?

this isn't smearing. these are facts. and i'm not trying to argue with anyone or start a huge debate. i just think that these are big issues. and you ask why talk about it with the elections so close. that is exactly why! the elections are close. in time and in numbers. so this is the time to get the facts out to someone who may not know them.

 

[lovesdolphins]

Just for the record, that's what you consider to be "rights as a woman". There are some people (not taking sides here, just saying "everyone has an opinion") that don't believe it -is- a right to be able to abort a child.

As a result, your statement here makes no sense for someone with that belief.

Everyone has their own minds, can't we just let everyone vote as they wish to vote and quit the smearing?

yea, what she said. I could say more... but I'm going to take MG's advice and keep my mouth shut.

As for the rape kit things... I remember reading that it wasn't true, but at this point it doesn't really matter.

 

[heatherq17]

I have a feeling this thread is going to be closed

 

[seremela06]

yea, what she said. I could say more... but I'm going to take MG's advice and keep my mouth shut.

As for the rape kit things... I remember reading that it wasn't true, but at this point it doesn't really matter.

the "rape kit thing" is most certainly true. i live 45 minutes from wasilla, alaska.

 

[RobinRedbreast]

Making a thread titled "why NOT to vote for mccain" is a smear-tactic, I'm sorry. If it was "Let's discuss the both sides of politics" then maybe you'd have something there.

 

[HeatherJay]

We're not allowed to debate abortion here. So, let's just avoid the hurt feelings.

 

[seremela06]

Making a thread titled "why NOT to vote for mccain" is a smear-tactic, I'm sorry. If it was "Let's discuss the both sides of politics" then maybe you'd have something there.

it's not a smear tactic. if i was attempting to "smear" palin or mccain, i would have come up with much worse. these are facts that everyone should be aware of. obama is pro-choice. there's the other side.

 

[RobinRedbreast]

We're not allowed to debate abortion here. So, let's just avoid the hurt feelings.

Not even allowed to discuss abortion, actually CF's Community Rules state that abortion is one of the topics not to be discussed in this section of the forums.

Case closed on that one.

 

[lovesdolphins]

you know, not posting is really hard in threads like this...

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

Just for the record, that's what you consider to be "rights as a woman". There are some people (not taking sides here, just saying "everyone has an opinion") that don't believe it -is- a right to be able to abort a child.

As a result, your statement here makes no sense for someone with that belief.

Everyone has their own minds, can't we just let everyone vote as they wish to vote and quit the smearing?

Ditto this.

I can not WAIT till this stupid election is over and I'll be so happy when everyone can have normal conversations again. It got old so long ago

 

[HeatherJay]

you know, not posting is really hard in threads like this...

For both sides...but hopefully we love each other enough to refrain. I seriously don't want to see my sisters on either side hurting.

Cookies anyone?

 

[RobinRedbreast]

Cookies anyone?

Funny you should offer. I was just about to say "This thread is now about delicious cake."

 

[seremela06]

For both sides...but hopefully we love each other enough to refrain. I seriously don't want to see my sisters on either side hurting.

Cookies anyone?

you know, it is possible to have a civilized discussion without anyone's feelings getting hurt...

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

you know, it is possible to have a civilized discussion without anyone's feelings getting hurt...

Ya, but there have been practically millions of threads about the election. Why do we need another one?

 

[HeatherJay]

you know, it is possible to have a civilized discussion without anyone's feelings getting hurt...

Possible, but not likely on this topic.