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Why not Hinduism?

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JGG

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So, I've heard it said by Christians that the reason they so vehemently oppose homosexuality because it is a "LIFESTYLE of sin," or that it is a sin that homosexuals do not repent of. For this reason (we'll say American)Christians oppose homosexuality to the point that we have incredibly homophobic Christians, as well as anti-gay politics at the state, and national level. An example of such an argument:

I have said it multiple times, homosexuality is not a greater sin than others. What sets it apart though is that it is a HABIT and LIFESTYLE of sin. Jesus' blood can cover all sins from a lie to a rape to stealing to murder. But when someone lives an entire LIFE of sin, there is no sacrifice left. The person just wants to do what they want to do and they will not submit their hearts to God.

This is why homosexuality is different because it asks for approval of a LIFE of sin. I don't see any Christians who like to steal joining forums and getting into parades to say "I'm pro thievery! Please approve of what i do, it's just who i am! I don't care that God's word says it is a sin to steal. I want to steal the rest of my life!" No, they don't.

Now, I choose not to examine this particular argument, but instead I wish to change it a bit. Why thievery? Because we can all agree that stealing is wrong? What if we look at the same example, but with the very first (and second) commandment.

Exodus 20:3-5 - (3) Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. (5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.


God very clearly states that worshipping a god other than Him is a sin. This clearly means that being Jewish (worshipping a god that is not Jesus), Muslim, Hindu, a Scientologist, or a member of any other religion other than Christianity is a sin. And not a "fuzzy" sin like homosexuality, but one of the big ten. Actually, two of the big ten.

Furthermore, continuing to worship in these sinful religions, being a member of a community based on one of these sinful religions, and observing the holidays and customs of these sinful religions would really constitute a "lifestyle," or a "LIFESTYLE of sin" if you will. For some reason there is no outcry against other religions, or talk of banning other religions, or religious practices, even though they are sinful, and lead to a sinful lifestyle. The anti-non-Christian religion lobby is so small, it might be non-existent, even though these people continuously break two commandments without regret, or without ever repenting.

Not only that, but look at how our culture has come to accept non-Christian religions, and even celebrates having the freedom to practice any religion you choose, and even to not practice religion at all! Surely that is a sign of a corrupted, hell-bound society.

Let's take the example of Hinduism. Hindus are obviously not worshipping the Christian God of the Bible, therefore they must be worshipping another god, or a false idol. This, the Christian God tells us, is a sin. Being Hindu also involves an entirely different lifestyle than that that Christians know: Different religious practices, different holy days, different prayers, different culture. It's fairly easy to see that being Hindu violates the 1st and 2nd commandments. However, we see no political action, no protests, and no lobbies involving the banning of Hinduism, or Hindu religious practices.

So, I'm curious as to why there is such an inconsistency in opposition. If Christians oppose homosexuality because its a sin, why not Hinduism? If Christians oppose homosexuality because its a LIFESTYLE of sin, why not Hinduism, which is also decidedly a lifestyle? If Christians oppose homosexuality because its a sin that few repent of, why not Hinduism which plenty of Americans will die believing in? Why is there this incredible social, and political opposition toward one "LIFESTYLE of sin," but almost no opposition to another?
 

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Actually, some Hindus have little qualms about adding a statue of Jesus to their household altars. Theirs can be a pretty inclusive religion, with Jesus just being another avatar among many. Just as an aside.

Good OP, by the way! I'm looking forwards to seeing some evangelical responses.
 
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So, I'm curious as to why there is such an inconsistency in opposition. If Christians oppose homosexuality because its a sin, why not Hinduism?

I don't see a difference. What makes you think Christians don't equally "oppose" Hinduism? Christians evangelize among Hindus, and proclaim the same thing to them that they do to homosexuals.
 
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I don't see a difference. What makes you think Christians don't equally "oppose" Hinduism? Christians evangelize among Hindus, and proclaim the same thing to them that they do to homosexuals.
The number of threads in the E&M section devoted to false gods is approximately 0, while the number of threads devoted to homosexuality is ...
 
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I don't see a difference. What makes you think Christians don't equally "oppose" Hinduism? Christians evangelize among Hindus, and proclaim the same thing to them that they do to homosexuals.

But no christians (that I am aware of), is actively opposing the prosletyzing of Hinduism, worship of Hindu idols, or Hindu marriages.
 
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But no christians (that I am aware of), is actively opposing the prosletyzing of Hinduism, worship of Hindu idols, or Hindu marriages.

I've heard Hindus explicitly say they do not prosletyze Hinduism, although I think Hare Krishnas do (I don't know exactly how they fit into Hinduism.) And of course it was a well known atheist (Phil Donahue), who famously punched one in the mouth for trying to hand him a flower at an airport. (Sorry, had to get that in. ;))

And a Hindu man and woman marrying each other is no sin in itself.

As far as idol worship, I think we'd say the same to them as we say to the homosexual: "don't do it". But they are a small minority in America, and idol worship AFAIK is not done in the public square. The Hindu lifestyle is just not in the national conversation the way homosexuality is. Hindus don't hold "Hindu Pride Parades" where they do generally offensive things on Main Street. The Hindu message is also not promoted in movies, sitcoms and popular culture the way homosexuality is. Although I guess that could change, if Bollywood ever surpasses Hollywood in influence.
 
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I've heard Hindus explicitly say they do not prosletyze Hinduism, although I think Hare Krishnas do (I don't know exactly how they fit into Hinduism.) And of course it was a well known atheist (Phil Donahue), who famously punched one in the mouth for trying to hand him a flower at an airport. (Sorry, had to get that in. ;))

And a Hindu man and woman marrying each other is no sin in itself.

As far as idol worship, I think we'd say the same to them as we say to the homosexual: "don't do it". But they are a small minority in America, and idol worship AFAIK is not done in the public square. The Hindu lifestyle is just not in the national conversation the way homosexuality is. Hindus don't hold "Hindu Pride Parades" where they do generally offensive things on Main Street. The Hindu message is also not promoted in movies, sitcoms and popular culture the way homosexuality is. Although I guess that could change, if Bollywood ever surpasses Hollywood in influence.

So, if Hindus started making more headway into society and promoting their views, you would be for banning their marriage and religious beliefs?
 
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And a Hindu man and woman marrying each other is no sin in itself.

How so? Marriage is supposed to be the union of man and woman under God right? Union of man and woman under Shiva/Kali/ Agni etc. would not be the same thing. Come to think of it, this would also mean that all non-christians would be barred from marriage....
 
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I don't see a difference. What makes you think Christians don't equally "oppose" Hinduism? Christians evangelize among Hindus, and proclaim the same thing to them that they do to homosexuals.
Proposition 8.2: Ban all other religions. Bet it wouldn't get anywhere near the same support.
 
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So, if Hindus started making more headway into society and promoting their views, you would be for banning their marriage and religious beliefs?

Of course that wouldn't be possible in America, and of course I don't want to ban anyone's beliefs. Even NAMBLA can believe what they want, but acting on their beliefs is already illegal. But if you want to look at something similar which could be considered promotion, there's a large Muslim population in Michigan. In some city (Ann Arbor, I think) a local mosque began blaring their calls to prayer though loudspeakers in public, as they do in Muslim countries. The non-Muslim citizens wanted to put a stop to it. I don't know what happened, but it was in the news a year or so ago.

How so? Marriage is supposed to be the union of man and woman under God right? Union of man and woman under Shiva/Kali/ Agni etc. would not be the same thing.

Right, it's not the same thing, but I meant it's no additional sin. I mean they're already Hindu.

Come to think of it, this would also mean that all non-christians would be barred from marriage....

No, it doesn't mean anyone would be barred from anything on solely religious grounds.
 
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Hinduism is a very beautiful religion...and I've never been accosted by a Hindu, waving a holy text in the air and screaming that Kali is going to get me!

Hindu's are more accepting than alot of Christians, strange, when you consider that Christianity is touted as the religion of love, peace, acceptance and tolerance.
 
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Christianity is the only faith where mankind can't work his way into heaven. One is saved by grace through faith in Christ. Works is a byproduct of this saving faith. One can't work there way into heaven because God's standards are way too high. For example, Do you think you are a good person? http://www.livingwaters.com/good/ Can you keep all the ten commandments 100% of the time all the time? Only Jesus could. The bible is the most true book in the world, read The Evidence That Demands A Verdict by Josh McDowell (it would stand up in court concerning its evidence without a shadow of a doubt).

Homophobia? How about heterophobia? Is that what you have? No, its more like there are physical laws that don't change and social laws that shouldn't change. Men try to change social laws and its to their own peril when they do this. Rome fell from within because the allowed everything socially to happen occur. Lets learn by history. Also, the u.s. citizens arn't for it - and shouldn't be ruled by dictator judges.

I don't know any christians they go around saying their God is going to get anybody. That it not christ like. Also, other faiths like the hindi's, muslims, etc. kill christians in their countries. True christians don't go around killing others because their not christian.
 
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So, I'm curious as to why there is such an inconsistency in opposition. If Christians oppose homosexuality because its a sin, why not Hinduism? If Christians oppose homosexuality because its a LIFESTYLE of sin, why not Hinduism, which is also decidedly a lifestyle? If Christians oppose homosexuality because its a sin that few repent of, why not Hinduism which plenty of Americans will die believing in? Why is there this incredible social, and political opposition toward one "LIFESTYLE of sin," but almost no opposition to another?

Lost people are lost, whether they're Hindus or Homosexuals or what have you.

When Hindus start making their religion such an issue as homosexuals have made their sexuality an issue, then you'll hear more Christians speak out about it.

The only time I ever hear Christians address homosexuality at all is in response to homosexual statements about their lifestyle.

If homosexuals weren't lobbying for special treatment based on their sexuality, weren't having "Gay Pride" parades, and weren't coming to Christian message boards starting all kinds of threads, I seriously doubt you'd hear Christians talk about homosexuality much at all.
 
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Lady Selenê;50956442 said:
Hinduism is a very beautiful religion

Do you really think the caste system is beautiful? How about the Hindu practice of sati, where a woman is considered to be so worthless that she is killed after the death of her husband?

That doesn't sound very beautiful to me.

Hindu's are more accepting than alot of Christians, strange, when you consider that Christianity is touted as the religion of love, peace, acceptance and tolerance.

That's unfortunate.

Christianity isn't "accepting" or "tolerant" at all. Jesus, Himself, tells us that He will turn sinners away and sentence them to Hell.

That doesn't sound very accepting to me.
 
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Lost people are lost, whether they're Hindus or Homosexuals or what have you.

When Hindus start making their religion such an issue as homosexuals have made their sexuality an issue, then you'll hear more Christians speak out about it.

The only time I ever hear Christians address homosexuality at all is in response to homosexual statements about their lifestyle.

If homosexuals weren't lobbying for special treatment based on their sexuality, weren't having "Gay Pride" parades, and weren't coming to Christian message boards starting all kinds of threads, I seriously doubt you'd hear Christians talk about homosexuality much at all.

Someone missed something, for you see, Hindus have already done such, and they won. They can be Hindu all they like, and the only requirement is that they respect the local laws and don't try to force their religion on others, which is theoretically the exact same place Christians are at. In other words, they have.

The whole reason they don't have their parades is that people are ok with them being Hindus. When do you get death threats for being a Hindu? Rarely. When are you publically humiliated for it? Can't remember any times. There is a vast double standard, you just don't want to admit it, or maybe you really can't see it.
 
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