Why no new Ecumenical Councils?

[mcarmichael]

I think we should do another. We could do another, couldn't we?

There are rules in place, aren't they? Would they invite Pope Francis? Or has the term "ecumenical" become too tarnished due to the so-called "ecumenical movement (if this is what it is called)"?

 

[chevyontheriver]

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[ArmyMatt]

I think we should do another. We could do another, couldn't we?

we could.

There are rules in place, aren't they?

yes.

Would they invite Pope Francis?

we could, but we don't need him. he is not a bishop in the Church so he would not have a vote. his opinion would be irrelevant.

Or has the term "ecumenical" become too tarnished due to the so-called "ecumenical movement (if this is what it is called)"?

no, ecumenical is fine. ecumenism can be bad, and that is the ugliness of the ecumenical movement. but there is a good ecumenism as well, so ecumenical is not bad.

 

[ArmyMatt]

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[chevyontheriver]

actually, thems not the rules. prior to the Schism, no Pope called a council, Ephesus was called and the canons enacted before the Roman delegation got there, and the only one (I think) where a Pope actually attended, he was excommunicated until he repented.



this is not the Roman forum, so we don't recognize those as being anything.

Sorry, I didn't realize where I was.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Sorry, I didn't realize where I was. I'll delete my posts now.

no, you are good. it is important to highlight the differences between us, because there are a lot of wrong assumptions out there

 

[mcarmichael]

Sorry, I didn't realize where I was. I'll delete my posts now.

I undid my positive rating, also.

 

[chevyontheriver]

no, you are good. it is important to highlight the differences between us, because there are a lot of wrong assumptions out there

Already gone.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Already gone.

fair enough, my response is gone too.

 

[chevyontheriver]

fair enough, my response is gone too.

Like it never happened at all. Down the memory hole.

 

[mcarmichael]

Like it never happened at all. Down the memory hole.

I remember two things:

The Council of Trullo was after the 6th, 7th, or 8th "Ecumenical" Council.
Pope Francis is to be invited.

 

[ArmyMatt]

I remember two things:

The Council of Trullo was after the 6th, 7th, or 8th "Ecumenical" Council.
Pope Francis is to be invited.

those were prior to Rome leaving the Church. Trullo was not after the 7th. Pope Francis would only be invited, if invited, to observe.

 

[mcarmichael]

those were prior to Rome leaving the Church. Trullo was not after the 7th. Pope Francis would only be invited, if invited, to observe.

Trello, maybe?

 

[ArmyMatt]

Trello, maybe?

dunno that there was a Council of Trello. either way, no need for Rome, since they are not in the Church. we do not recognize them.

 

[mcarmichael]

dunno that there was a Council of Trello. either way, no need for Rome, since they are not in the Church. we do not recognize them.

No absolute need, obviously, but isn't it a tradition to invite the Pope to an Ecumenical Council?

 

[mcarmichael]

No absolute need, obviously, but isn't it a tradition to invite the Pope to an Ecumenical Council?

This can be the agenda.

 

[ArmyMatt]

No absolute need, obviously, but isn't it a tradition to invite the Pope to an Ecumenical Council?

yeah, back when he was in the Church, since Rome is anathema, it would not make sense to invite them unless they were willing to repent and return home.

 

[ArmyMatt]

This can be the agenda.

I hope not

 

[mcarmichael]

yeah, back when he was in the Church, since Rome is anathema, it would not make sense to invite them unless they were willing to repent and return home.

He could participate as a witness, though.

 

[ArmyMatt]

He could participate as a witness, though.

sure, but that wouldn't do anything. and since they would get no vote in anything we do, Rome coming would be a waste of time and money.