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There is no shortage of discussion about the origin of life among scientists, and we are doing anything but saying "it just happened, don't ask why".
And how is a natural explanation handwaving? Are you asserting that only explanations that involve the magic power of Goddidit can truly explain things, for reasons you don't want to share?
Here's a clue: Humans and chimpanzees share a common ancestor.
What's your SQ? (spiritual quotient)...
Decades ago, it was only IQ that was thought to be the only valid form of intelligence. Then fast forward to 1990s and we were introduced to the concept of emotional intelligence – we were told that how we manage our emotions could potentially be even more important than our IQ. And then came 2000, our understanding of the facets of intelligence was further broadened when the idea of spiritual intelligence emerged.
“Acceptable” is subjective. Nothing is objectively OK or not OK. Everything just “is” and how we feel about it is subjective.Herman,
So are you excited about their being no purpose in life for you personally?
Since there is no purpose in the universe and human beings (what you are suggesting), then it's OK for Hitler to enact the slaughter in the Holocaust, the terrorists to smash aeroplanes into the twin towers on Sept 11, 2001, for paedophiles to rape children, etc.
If there is no purpose in the universe, anything a person chooses to do is acceptable.
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Oz
It's not a hypothesis anyone would pursue, because no one thinks humans evolved from chimpanzees. I think you need to learn a bit about the TOE before you attempt to debate it.
Troll. Calling it. You’re a troll. You can’t seriously be saying you don’t know the difference between a cousin and an ancestor.The Smithsonian disagrees:
Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. Scientific evidence shows that the physical and behavioral traits shared by all people originated from apelike ancestors and evolved over a period of approximately six million years (emphasis added, source).
Is a chimpanzee ape-like?
Oz
I thought you'd been warned against giving heed to endless genealogies?
That is a very strange viewpoint that, unfortunately, many christians seem to take. That there is no directed purpose for life, the universe, and everything (except for 42) does of course not mean that my life and actions can't have purpose and meaning to myself as well as to those I interact with.
As for your nonsense about terrorists, Hitler, and paedophiles - no, just no. Don't go there ...
Wrong. Reasons for objection can draw from shared values and goals, regardless of the universe’s indifference.If there is no directed purpose, anyone can choose whatever morality they want to pursue and you and I have no reason for objection because there is no 'directed purpose in the universe' (your words).
I thought you'd been warned against giving heed to endless genealogies?
Imagine if you could show transitional fossils from Chimpanzee to human. Disproving ToE. Wow!It's not a hypothesis anyone would pursue, because no one thinks humans evolved from chimpanzees. I think you need to learn a bit about the TOE before you attempt to debate it.
Non sequiturIf there is no directed purpose, anyone can choose whatever morality they want to pursue and you and I have no reason for objection because there is no 'directed purpose in the universe' (your words).
No, it isn't.That's the logical conclusion of your purposeless worldview.
The Smithsonian disagrees:
Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. Scientific evidence shows that the physical and behavioral traits shared by all people originated from apelike ancestors and evolved over a period of approximately six million years (emphasis added, source).
Is a chimpanzee ape-like?
Oz
You have committed an Appeal to Self-Evident Truth Fallacy.
How come? This fallacy means that you have asked a question that presumes AV1611 has made a statement that supports genealogies, which your claim is that it comes under the category of 'endless genealogies'.
What is self-evident to you may not be self-evident to others.
Your fallacy has this outline of explanation:
AV1611: He made a statement about Jesus' genealogy from Luke 3.
Jimmy: He claims that AV should have taken notice of the warning about giving 'heed to endless genealogies'.
Oz: Jimmy didn't provide the evidence to demonstrate that AV had used 'endless genealogies' in his statement from Luke 3. Oz provided evidence that Jimmy should have given to show that Jimmy's own question was irrelevant because he provided no support for it.
Jimmy: He is asking the question, with the assumption that the meaning of 'endless genealogies' is self-evident. He assumed that AV, Oz and other people on CFnet know the meaning of 'endless genealogies'.
Jimmy, you are using erroneous reasoning. You have put up a question that indicates you know the meaning of 'endless genealogies', but you provided no defense for it to explain your understanding. Therefore, it is a logical fallacy that you used.
Oz
My what now? Well I suppose it is 666 or so. Does that answer your question?
That is ridicule!
Of course it's an ape, taxonomically so are we, but that doesn't mean it's our ancestor. If you don't understand these basic things I'm not sure these debates are for you.
Really? Since I have no idea what Spiritual Quotient is and how it's supposed to be measured, I just took a number at random.
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