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I would love to but what is ToE? When I google it I get feet and I know you not talking about a foot.
Only what we don't see. I haven't seen anything that would put the nail in the coffin in the debate between micro and macro evolution.
Lol, I never claimed to be the brightest crayon in the box. I never believed what I was taught in middle school about the monkey-to-man theory. I believed I was placed here by aliens at that time. Throughout the years, I've always asked myself these questions.
Ok, forgive me. I'll just read and try to learn something. Peace
So you have no evidence that there is a limit between micro and macro evolution. Just what you see, or you think you see.
Not relevant to this discussion.
Not to nit-pick, but what I believe I said was "what I (we) don't see". At least not physically, or tangibly. Which is what you might say about evidence of/for God.
I'll think you'll find it extremely difficult to discuss micro/macro evolution without bringing God into the discussion. If the argument against macro evolution were not Christian/Bible based, there would be relatively little discussion on it. You may have some who would argue against it from a purely scientific standpoint, but to most people it would simply be trivial. Whether or not Macro evolution occurred wouldn't affect your average person's lifestyle. Which is probably why it's being brought up in a Christian forum (Which I think it should be). Because the discussion is associated with Christianity/the Bible is why it's as wide a conversation as it is. You can probably successfully press a Christian down into your narrow questioning, which will probably just end the conversation quicker. I myself at this point will only respond when asked a question, as I have no intention of disrupting the thread.
But you should still have evidence of the line between micro and Marco, right? That is what I am asking for. You have yet to provide it.
I don't want to turn this into what someone believes, because that is outside this discussion. For that matter, there are Christians that accept evolution and the evidence for it and still believe. I am trying to get you to provide evidence for your claim because in the end, that is how we get to the truth. We find evidence, we see if it fits in our understanding of things and if it doesn't we come to a new understanding.
I copied and pasted it maybe to answer your question and posted the paper. Thats all. If you are scientifically literate you can understand this better than I do unless you created this thread to argue with anyone who gives you an answer.
This paper isn't about monkeys either. Yes, I tried to read the whole paper.
From what I understand this paper tries to answer your questions. If it doesn't disregard it.
There really isn't such a person as "the first human".
100%. There isn't a sharp edge between species in time (in most cases and no reason to think there is with humans). Each generation going backward in our past would have included an interbreeding group of the same species, and so forth. If we transported some one from that group 500,000 years ago to today, they would seem to be of a different species of humans, but of course, time travel is impossible.
Humans and other apes fall within the group of catarrhine monkeys including the old world monkeys of Asia and Africa, but not the new world monkeys of the Americas.
I never really thought about such things as a Christian. Science didn't seem related to religion.
I would just say all theories are taken by faith whether it's God, aliens, evolution, or living in a simulation that science tries to prove. Since the OP wants a specific group to answer why can't micro to macro, I'll bow out. I think part of his answer is in the scientific paper I posted.
