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Why makes/keeps you Lutheran?

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I'm taking stock of my beliefs and studying just about every Christian faith group in existence. (Yes, I am tired. LOL)

I would like to know a few things:

1) Why are you Lutheran (vs. Catholic/Protestant/Orthodox)?
Law/gospel and being rooted in Christ

2) What branch of Lutheranism do you follow?

LCMS

3) If you converted to Lutheranism, what faith(s) did you follow previously?
I was raised catholic, but I'm very positive I was always a lutheran at heart.

4) And what convinced you to convert?

I always had a hard time with the man made rules. My answers come from scripture.

I appreciate your time/patience with my questions. :)


Thank you,

SS

You're welcome!
 
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I was raised and confirmed LCMS many years ago, but attended a non-denominational church for a number of years after I came back to Christ after being a prodigal daughter.
the pastor was a good, God fearing man who loved the Lord as were many of the congregation but:

I didn't like the lack of the belief in the Real Presence in the Eucharist-after reading through the Bible a few times it was more than obvious to me that this is what scripture plainly says especially 1 Corinthians 11 especially vs. 29.
I also was being pressured to be re-baptized as I was being told I didn't understand what I was doing as an infant I instinctively felt this was wrong and found my support in Scripture - baptism is a sacrament for the forgiveness of sins!
I began to be troubled by a lack of connection to historic Christianity and the ancient liturgy, in the non denom church.
This was all brought home to me when I visited a Lutheran Church(ELCA) around the corner from my home.
So I left my non-denom and joined the Lutheran church the Church of my childhood.
Oh that and the fact the Lutheran bible studies were so much more in-depth in Scripture than the nondenom ones-really delving into Scripture! (Some other churches probably do this, too, but Christian education is first and foremost in Lutheran Churches.)
We actually studied the 10 commandments, the creeds, the Old and New Testament in entirety.
And the Law and Gospel distinction.

I think you highlight what many Lutherans believe. :wave:
 
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You might want to rethink this, the increase has nothing to do with the number or population. The KJV does not properly handle the Hebrew in Gen. 3:16. Check the Hebrew, if you can, if not check out NAS, ESV, etc.


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1. I left other churches before starting to attend a Lutheran one. I went to my current Lutheran church because of their willingness to be what they say they are namely confessional. It was nice to finally find a church that was eager to stand by their confession and not pick and chose parts of one to follow or make it up as they went along.

2. I attend a small ELS (evangelical Lutheran synod) church close to where I live. You can find out more about them at their website:

Evangelical Lutheran Synod | Engaging you with Jesus

3. My last church, before Lutheranism, was a Presbyterian church of the Calvinist persuasion. I probably would still be there now if they hadn't made so many concessions to particular Baptists or federal visionists.

4. What got me in the door was their confession and a desire to stick with it. What convinced me to convert was the assurance they placed in the sacraments and hearing the gospel preached every Sunday.

Most, if not all, reformed churches treat the sacraments as ordinances, law. They place nothing in them except what they bring to them. It's really just an opportunity to proclaim their faith and not accept them, the sacraments, as a gift from God, Gospel.

Also, it's nice to hear the gospel on Sundays versus a book report on the latest and greatest must read. Which is really nothing more than monkery. That or listening to an hour lecture on the current "how to" topic of the month. More monkery.

ELS/WELS fist bump.

Our synods are very cuddly with each other. And you guys the ELS have, by far, the best hymnal on the Lutheran world.
 
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ELS/WELS fist bump.

Our synods are very cuddly with each other. And you guys the ELS have, by far, the best hymnal on the Lutheran world.

yeah I like it a lot. It's been a great resource for me, especially coming from a background that never used anything remotely liturgical.

Have you ever seen the ELS book of Family Prayer?
 
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yeah I like it a lot. It's been a great resource for me, especially coming from a background that never used anything remotely liturgical.

Have you ever seen the ELS book of Family Prayer?

No I havent, but I am interested. Where can I pick up a copy?
 
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No I havent, but I am interested. Where can I pick up a copy?

Your local ELS congregation should have some. :D

Also, I think you can get it through the bookstore at Bethany Lutheran College.

Bookstore | Bethany Lutheran College

If their website is still down let me know and I can give you more detailed information on the book so you can call in an order. Bethany Lutheran Bookstore is the publishing arm of the denomination.
 
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Your local ELS congregation should have some. :D

Also, I think you can get it through the bookstore at Bethany Lutheran College.

Bookstore | Bethany Lutheran College

If their website is still down let me know and I can give you more detailed information on the book so you can call in an order. Bethany Lutheran Bookstore is the publishing arm of the denomination.

It's still down.
 
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Okay....It's called "Book of Family Prayer" by Nils Jakob Laache. It was originally intended to be used by Norwegian immigrant families that settled in the US around 1880's. Until the synod had an opportunity to send missionaries over to establish a church.

The book follows the church year with a daily bible reading, short lesson, prayer, and closes with a suggested hymn. Additional readings are included for special holy days.

I purchased by copy for $18 but I think the price and since gone up to $20.

Like I said I'm pretty sure you can get it from Bethany Lutheran but if they can't help call the denomination and ask them. I couldn't find a link to any official publishing house on the main denom. website.

If you are still on the fence I can try to scan a lesson so you can see what it's like.
 
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1) Why are you Lutheran (vs. Catholic/Protestant/Orthodox)?

I agree completely with the doctrine set forth in the Book of Concord. And Lutheranism is awesome.

2) What branch of Lutheranism do you follow?

Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod.

3) If you converted to Lutheranism, what faith(s) did you follow previously?

That's a long story.

4) And what convinced you to convert?

That's an even longer story.
 
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If you ever care to share those stories, I'm only a PM away. :)

What religion was I previously? Well, let me preface this by stating that I was adopted at birth. My birth family, or what I know of it, is a hodgepodge of religions. My father's father's family is Confessional Lutheran (LCMS), originally belonging to the "Danske Folkekirke," or Church of Denmark when they immigrated to the U.S. from Schleswig-Holstein, partly out of necessity for money, and partly out of a feared induction into the EKD, or as it was known at the time, the "Prussian Union." As Schleswig-Holstein had mostly been in Danish hands before Prussian takeover, they, as Lutherans, had avoided abandoning the Confessions as the German church had done years prior. My father's mother's father was an Irish Catholic whose family came from Contae Mhaigh Eo, while his wife was a mixture of Congregationalist and Dutch Reformed from Upstate New York. My father's parents, on the other hand, decided to join the Assemblies of God, and that was the religion my father was raised in until he married my mother (then they became ELCA). My mother's father, being, like his wife, pretty much half-Norwegian and half-English, was raised Episcopalian, while his wife was raised in what would later become the ELCA.

Keep in mind this is only my birth family.

In my adopted family, my mother was raised Catholic, and like many baby-boomers, left the church due to issues with dogma. My father's family was originally Orthodox Jewish from Poland and Russia, though is non-practicing Jewish now (they're the Creasters of Judaism). Thus, in the first few years of my life, I was raised in my mother's Christ Unity, a New Thought movement. At the age of five, curiously, I decided that I wanted to be Jewish, and so I began, with my father, attending a Reform Synagogue in my home town. Deciding to become a Bar Mitzvah, without officially converting (this was a Reform Synagogue), I ultimately spent twelve years in Reform Judaism, becoming a Bar Mitzvah, being Confirmed, and even teaching Judaica in Hebrew School for a number of years. Finally, I decided to officially convert. I went through the whole process, Beis Din, male drop of blood (from the same part they you-know-what as a baby, which I had been shortly after birth), and Mikvah. The whole nine yards. However, as I was Reform, many observant Jews would not consider my conversion valid. Really, the reason from a Jewish perspective that my conversion was technically annulled was because I converted out of Judaism less than a year after my conversion.

One day, in the spring of my Junior Year in high school, a Korean Presbyterian friend of mine invited me to a church outing of his. During this outing, the Pastor and a number of Elders kept hammering the apologetics nail. Finally, after a very, very long discussion, the Pastor asked me to read the New Testament. I obliged.

This is the part where we, as Lutherans, say that God imbued Grace through the Word. My eyes were opened. At this point, the only question was which denomination I should follow. So I went church hopping, from the RCC, to the ABA, to the NBC, to the SBC, to the DRC, to the UCC, to the UMC, to the DOC, to the EOC (ROC, UOC, and GOC), to the CC, to the EC, to the CON, to the CFG, to the OPs, to the TRs, to the PBs, to the NDs, to the Es, to the PCUSA, to the PCA, to the ECP, to the JWs, to the LDS.

I had no idea where to go, so a friend (ELCA in fact) suggested that I read the Book of Concord. So I did. All of it.

Surely I was a Lutheran. All I needed was a denomination.

Sadly, off to the ELCA it was. Boy was I in for a surprise. That’s all I’m going to say. After marking that off my list, I was sad, as I thought it to be the only Lutheran denomination in the U.S.

Then I found the LCMS. Went through Catechism, was baptized Reformation Sunday of 2013.

Subtract from my LCMS experience a 10 week foray into Ásatrú (Germanic Neopaganism, though I never renounced Christ or my baptism), and I’ve been there ever since. Now I’m in college studying to be a pastor.

As to why I remain Lutheran . . . that’s another story for another time.

Pax Christi,

WirSindBettler
 
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This is the part where we, as Lutherans, say that God imbued Grace through the Word. My eyes were opened. At this point, the only question was which denomination I should follow. So I went church hopping, from the RCC, to the ABA, to the NBC, to the SBC, to the DRC, to the UCC, to the UMC, to the DOC, to the EOC (ROC, UOC, and GOC), to the CC, to the EC, to the CON, to the CFG, to the OPs, to the TRs, to the PBs, to the NDs, to the Es, to the PCUSA, to the PCA, to the ECP, to the JWs, to the LDS.

You know more about your family's--birth and adopted--religious background than I know about my birth family's. I'm greatly impressed. And the number of church sects whose services you've attended is incredible!

...Sadly, off to the ELCA it was. Boy was I in for a surprise. That’s all I’m going to say. After marking that off my list, I was sad, as I thought it to be the only Lutheran denomination in the U.S.

If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to hear from you--in a PM, to remain respectful of ELCA members--why the ELCA didn't/doesn't suit you.
 
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1) Why are you Lutheran (vs. Catholic/Protestant/Orthodox)? I grew very unhappy with the Catholic Church regarding both doctrine and politics, so I started searching for a new church. I wanted to belong to a traditional church with good doctrine, and it eventually came down to Lutheranism and Eastern Orthodoxy. While there is a lot I do love about EO, I ended up deciding to become Lutheran. Though it didn't factor into my decision, it doesn't hurt that until my grandparents' generation, there was a strong family history of Lutheranism! An ancestor was actually kicked out of Germany by his father for converting from the RCC.

2) What branch of Lutheranism do you follow? LCMS.

3) If you converted to Lutheranism, what faith(s) did you follow previously? Baptized United Methodist, converted to Catholicism in high school.

4) And what convinced you to convert? I guess I answered this a bit in #1. I feel like Lutheranism has done a good job of going back to the early western church in both doctrine and liturgy. The liturgy is beautiful, the hymns are powerful, and the doctrine is true. I attend a wonderful traditional parish and work at the parish school. It also doesn't hurt that everyone is so much friendlier! I missed church one Sunday due to an illness and so many people asked my husband where I was. We had attended a Catholic parish in this city for almost a year before converting, and only one person there even knew our names. So the fellowship is an amazing change for the positive.
 
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Even better. :thumbsup:

It's just me but I have to own a physical book if I am going to read it.

Turns out the publishing arm of the WELS, the Northwestern Publishing House offers it as well. I am ordering it.
 
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It's just me but I have to own a physical book if I am going to read it.

It's not just you. Which is too bad cause I've found some really neat old books online and I just can't get used to an Ereader.
 
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It's not just you. Which is too bad cause I've found some really neat old books online and I just can't get used to an Ereader.

Yep. However, I managed to get used to it after a while. I found that it's all about what you are reading. An e-Bible is hopeless for me. But a book that you can read start to finish is ok for me now. I read Gene Veith's Spirituality of the Cross on Kindle in two sittings. It was easy.
 
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