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When we accept Christ obedience at the cross, we received his righteousness.
No torah is involved there
When we accept Christ obedience at the cross, we received his righteousness.
No torah is involved there
Would Paul explanation in Romans 5:12-19 satisfy you there?
This statement defies the law of noncontradiction.
Definition of righteous
1 : acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin
Definition of RIGHTEOUS
How all of us can sin without the Torah.
Here is what Paul said about those who sin without the Torah, earlier in this letter:
(CLV) Ro 2:12
for whoever sinned without law, without law also shall perish, and whoever sinned in law, through law will be judged.
I'd rather just be judged. How about you?
If you do, then would that be enough for you to accept the possibility that one can be saved, without being in any covenant?
No.
I don't recall. Did you ever answer whether or not you believe that one can enter a marriage covenant without a covenant?
Why is that still not possible? Or are you simply saying no but you don't wish to explain further?
As for your other point, we are talking about salvation here, your marriage covenant is a separate topic.
Unless you assume salvation from sins and marriage as equivalent?
The question hints of the explanation.
It is integral to this topic.
It's integral. Unless we are in Yahshua, there is no salvation. What does bride of Messiah mean to you?
It means a marriage covenant to me.
The Bride of Christ, marriage supper of the lamb, any thing that involves marriage, in scripture refers to the union of the nation of Israel and Jesus Christ.
If you are very concerned about that, let me give you a direct answer.
The Bride of Christ, marriage supper of the lamb, any thing that involves marriage, in scripture refers to the union of the nation of Israel and Jesus Christ.
But us in the Body of Christ, is always separate from Israel, we are a new creation, as I have said to you many times.
If YHWH's renewed covenant is with Israel (It is.) ; and Yahshua was commissioned for none but the lost sheep of Israel (He was) ; then how can anyone but a fellow citizen of Israel be in union with Yahshua?
The Body of Christ is an entirely new creation, and is separate from Israel.
(CLV) 1Co 12:13
For in one spirit also we all are baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and all are made to imbibe one spirit.
YHWH's covenant is with Israel. Surely you aren't suggesting that Yahshua is out of YHWH's covenant?
No one is saying anything close to that.
We are in the Body of Christ, which is a new creation.
We are saved because God sees us in him (Ephesians 1:7).
The verse that you cited does not support what you purport.
There isn't division within the body. Those who were outside of the body are now grafted into Israel.
Do you accept Ephesians 2?
Gentiles? Not Anymore!
We have different interpretations of what that passage means.
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